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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
Both sides have been too concerned with the optics for too long. It looks like they're moving past that in order get Eichel out of here and maximize the return
- Hank Balling


This is something that could have been done literally months ago.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
This is something that could have been done literally months ago.
- kingcong39


Sure but teams were always going to want to see Eichel play before ponying up
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
Sure but teams were always going to want to see Eichel play before ponying up
- Hank Balling


So then why wait months to figure that out?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 31 @ 12:39 PM ET
So then why wait months to figure that out?
- kingcong39


Probably in the hope of not having to bring Eichel back around and the media circus that would follow

The bonus of this plan is that he won't be around until after Christmas and thus no one will have to answer questions until then
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 31 @ 12:40 PM ET
So then why wait months to figure that out?
- kingcong39


You hit on it, took him that long to figure it out and accept it.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
Probably in the hope of not having to bring Eichel back around and the media circus that would follow

The bonus of this plan is that he won't be around until after Christmas and thus no one will have to answer questions until then

- Hank Balling


How does the thought in bold coincide with the following?

Sure but teams were always going to want to see Eichel play before ponying up
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:45 PM ET
Probably in the hope of not having to bring Eichel back around and the media circus that would follow

The bonus of this plan is that he won't be around until after Christmas and thus no one will have to answer questions until then

- Hank Balling


So they delayed on making yet another decision?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 31 @ 12:48 PM ET
How does the thought in bold coincide with the following?

Sure but teams were always going to want to see Eichel play before ponying up

- kingcong39


This works out pretty nicely for the Sabres.

Rather than have media follow Eichel and the Sabres around for 6.5 months, they avoid all that until the Olympics where Eichel can show his stuff. He's moved at the draft while Don Granato gets to open training camp without talking about Eichel drama.

It's kinda perfect
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 31 @ 12:49 PM ET
The answer is yes, they caved. It was stupid, they look the worse for it. Whatever, move on. Hopefully the surgery is a success and the return is astronomical to justify them eating poop again.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 31 @ 12:49 PM ET
So they delayed on making yet another decision?
- kingcong39


I view it more as making a decision, then failing to execute it. This is really their option of last resort. High risk move, hope this works out.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 31 @ 12:50 PM ET
So they delayed on making yet another decision?
- kingcong39


Why would we trade an injured eichel?

He's not even around the franchise bringing down the young guys.

How much worse can this saga actually get?

Maybe we start hot and he plays for the Sabres next season and beyond?

Hope he gets another look in the blue and gold...
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:51 PM ET
This works out pretty nicely for the Sabres.

Rather than have media follow Eichel and the Sabres around for 6.5 months, they avoid all that until the Olympics where Eichel can show his stuff. He's moved at the draft while Don Granato gets to open training camp without talking about Eichel drama.

It's kinda perfect

- Hank Balling


It's perfect because they delayed the circus for 4 to 5 months, when the circus will be right back in town until the 2022 draft?

You have an odd definition of the word perfect.

Also, the 2022 Olympics are in February, but the report claimed he would be ready sometime in December.

The Sabres are going to hold him out for the month of January?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:52 PM ET
Why would we trade an injured eichel?

He's not even around the franchise bringing down the young guys.

How much worse can this saga actually get?

Maybe we start hot and he plays for the Sabres next season and beyond?

Hope he gets another look in the blue and gold...

- Boss34


Why would they wait multiple months to figure out they can't get a good return for Eichel unless he has surgery?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
I view it more as making a decision, then failing to execute it. This is really their option of last resort. High risk move, hope this works out.
- Lunaion


First result was trading eichel while injured?

His value of top 5 young nhl center needs to be reestablished.
Playing well and showing he's over the injury will bring back a much much larger return.


Probably the kagm plan all along.
Healthy eichel = franchise changing return.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
It's perfect because they delayed the circus for 4 to 5 months, when the circus will be right back in town until the 2022 draft?

You have an odd definition of the word perfect.

Also, the 2022 Olympics are in February, but the report claimed he would be ready sometime in December.

The Sabres are going to hold him out for the month of January?

- kingcong39


Kind of like how Kucherov was physically unable to play until game one of the playoffs and not one day sooner

I do think this is pretty good. Eichel can prove his stuff without it being a full year distraction
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:53 PM ET
I view it more as making a decision, then failing to execute it. This is really their option of last resort. High risk move, hope this works out.
- Lunaion


Their decision was to try and pawn the injury risk off on another team while still garnering a quality return.

That plan didn't work out too well.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 31 @ 12:54 PM ET
The answer is yes, they caved. It was stupid, they look the worse for it. Whatever, move on. Hopefully the surgery is a success and the return is astronomical to justify them eating poop again.
- QuinnFan

How did they cave, nobody has a idea what is happening. He could be back on the ice skating and working out in December after either Surgery. Doesn't mean he is cleared.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:55 PM ET
First result was trading eichel while injured?

His value of top 5 young nhl center needs to be reestablished.
Playing well and showing he's over the injury will bring back a much much larger return.

Probably the kagm plan all along.
Healthy eichel = franchise changing return.

- Boss34


Why wait from when his injury was diagnosed until months later in nearly September to figure that out?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 31 @ 12:56 PM ET
Why would they wait multiple months to figure out they can't get a good return for Eichel unless he has surgery?
- kingcong39


I've mentioned this before.

Losing this season is a huge priority.
Eichel or his return will only prohibit losing

Punt, and get the return next year.
Add the top 5 pick
The sam pick
And probably 1 or 2 1st round picks



Profit.


They do not need to sell tickets ect...
The pandemic solved their marketing issue .

It's about the future..

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 31 @ 12:56 PM ET
First result was trading eichel while injured?

His value of top 5 young nhl center needs to be reestablished.
Playing well and showing he's over the injury will bring back a much much larger return.


Probably the kagm plan all along.
Healthy eichel = franchise changing return.

- Boss34


This is far from a given. It was clearly not KA's plan all along.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
I've mentioned this before.

Losing this season is a huge priority.
Eichel or his return will only prohibit losing

Punt, and get the return next year.
Add the top 5 pick
The sam pick
And probably 1 or 2 1st round picks

Profit.

They do not need to sell tickets ect...
The pandemic solved their marketing issue .

It's about the future..

- Boss34


So Eichel will play in the Olympics and then not a game with the Sabres after that?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
This is far from a given. It was clearly not KA's plan all along.
- Lunaion


It seems clear that this was not remotely what Adams wanted to happen, and it is a last resort, as you called it earlier.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
Why wait from when his injury was diagnosed until months later in nearly September to figure that out?
- kingcong39


I'm sure if the "right" offer was available, sure , take the offer.

It's kinda like bruce smith and his preseason injuries .

Skip camp, skip the early part of the season, aim for the Olympics.

Also, havnt they been debating the surgery procedure?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 31 @ 1:00 PM ET
It's perfect because they delayed the circus for 4 to 5 months, when the circus will be right back in town until the 2022 draft?

You have an odd definition of the word perfect.

Also, the 2022 Olympics are in February, but the report claimed he would be ready sometime in December.

The Sabres are going to hold him out for the month of January?

- kingcong39

It was said December at the earliest
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 31 @ 1:00 PM ET
How did they cave, nobody has a idea what is happening. He could be back on the ice skating and working out in December after either Surgery. Doesn't mean he is cleared.
- Buff36


They said no replacement
He is now getting replacement

We caved to his demands. And when he is cleared is inconsequential for me. I wouldn't let him around the team either way and we're tanking as is.
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