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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 30 @ 2:01 PM ET
he gone


turn the page

- homiedclown


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Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Aug 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
drop the price to 3 first rd picks/prospects and turn the page
- homiedclown


I am ok with this on 2 stipulations.

1- the first round pick is a unprotected one

2- there is a solid, young center coming back.

The 3rd piece I’m flexible on.

I will also take a cap dump with up to 2 years left.

I will also include olofson.

If the dump is longer and the pp specialist is included I want better stuff.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
You'd take Olo over Samson?

This is joke.

Both rode Eichel's coattails... Only one showed he could match his play without him.

- DirtyDan


Olo over sam in a nhl cap situation....
For less than 1/2 the price.....

All day every day.....

Both ride eichels coattails, only one rode a bike with eichel ☝️
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
Olo over sam in a nhl cap situation....
For less than 1/2 the price.....

All day every day.....

Both ride eichels coattails, only one rode a bike with eichel ☝️

- Boss34



Greatest Tandem of all-time.... next to none other than

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 30 @ 2:04 PM ET


Slow dave was not the difference between a cup or no cup.

Mucklers loyalty to fuhr was a joke.
Hasek was clearly better, but we had to keep chubby in net.

- Boss34

puppa was better than fuhr at the time, let alone throwing in dave

dave had 38 points in 31 games after traded to leafs and almost a ppg player in playoffs for leafs

add him to the roster and play either puppa or dom, we probably win the hab series instead of losing all 4 games by a goal

and the habs won the cup that year


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
Did we have a choice of olofsson over drysatlyl?
No

How long does the nhl keep the salaries low for a 7th round pick vs. 2nd overall?

Seems absolutely crazy that you dislike olofsson.
Your kinda looking to bash the Sabres every post.

Sam at 6.5 million x 3 years
Olofsson at 3.05 x 2 years

I'd take olo but,

Sammers gonna sam ....

- Boss34


You have control of Olofsson for this season and next, as next season is his last as an RFA before he becomes a UFA.

You're the Sabres GM: What is your long term plan with Olofsson?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
puppa was better than fuhr at the time, let alone throwing in dave

dave had 38 points in 31 games after traded to leafs and almost a ppg player in playoffs for leafs

add him to the roster and play either puppa or dom, we probably win the hab series instead of losing all 4 games by a goal

and the habs won the cup that year

- homiedclown


Losing Andreychuk hurt them obviously. However, Puppa was not good enough to get them where they needed to be either. Who knows if Hasek was already in the form that he was in the following season, but that would have been their only hope.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
puppa was better than fuhr at the time, let alone throwing in dave

dave had 38 points in 31 games after traded to leafs and almost a ppg player in playoffs for leafs

add him to the roster and play either puppa or dom, we probably win the hab series instead of losing all 4 games by a goal

and the habs won the cup that year

- homiedclown



I'm not sure I disagree....

Players do get stale, it's the nature of the nhl business.

Players especially in the 90's played for 3 , 4 or even 5 teams in their careers.

I liked puppa, not sure if he really proved to be a nhl Stanley cup type guy?

39 would have extended puppa at 8 years old, he would has traded him at 10 years old for (3) 1st rounders , but wouldnt trust him to make the playoffs....
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
seriously you have a problem


he gone


I mean I could say 5 to 9 times a day that the sabres would have won a cup in 93 if they did not trade andreychuk and puppa for fuhr

imaganie if I brought that up 5-9 times a day since you were on this site

that is the level of the problem you have





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- homiedclown





They also traded a 1st in that deal….

Kenny Jonsson.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:13 PM ET
Olo over sam in a nhl cap situation....
For less than 1/2 the price.....

All day every day.....

Both ride eichels coattails, only one rode a bike with eichel ☝️

- Boss34


I don't think it is 39 and Sam and his ilk and their disdain for Olo, I think it is Olo taking Skinner's number one line position and sending him to the gutter and that is why the trade the productive 7th round pick and the garnering on hate is there for him.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:17 PM ET
Losing Andreychuk hurt them obviously. However, Puppa was not good enough to get them where they needed to be either. Who knows if Hasek was already in the form that he was in the following season, but that would have been their only hope.
- buffalofan19



Puppa had better numbers for the Sabres than Fuhr did.

They traded Andreychuk, Puppa, and a 93’ 1st (Kenny Jonsson) for Fuhr and a 4th.


They lost 3 OT games in the playoffs to Montreal.

You can’t tell me Andreychuk couldn’t have helped them there.


If there was ever a trade where Muckler was trying to get the band back together, its this trade.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 2:18 PM ET
You have control of Olofsson for this season and next, as next season is his last as an RFA before he becomes a UFA.

You're the Sabres GM: What is your long term plan with Olofsson?

- kingcong39


I'm probably moving olo for a future 1st and a goaltending prospect at the deadline or offseason.

If he scores 20- 25 goals without eichel or a true #1 c, and likes buffalo... I give him the matt moulson special 5 x 5.

His age vs. Tank4 could really be the deciding factor.

We will need to spend some cash to get to the cap floor the next few seasons.

Hate to finally hit on a late round pick and not reap the benefits.....

Uncle ion may disagree, but I think olo's skating is very under appreciated. He has good speed and vision IMO.
The nhl is a growing process.

78 points in 116 nhl games is just the tip of the iceberg.

Imagine not liking him? Anti Sabres gonna anti sabre I guess.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
I don't think it is 39 and Sam and his ilk and their disdain for Olo, I think it is Olo taking Skinner's number one line position and sending him to the gutter and that is why the trade the productive 7th round pick and the garnering on hate is there for him.
- GilPerreault11


This is a good post.

Olo makes the irrelevant skimmer and sammer fans look bad....

7th round pick scoring at a much better $ per point percentage.

Why would a Sabres fan not like the guy?


dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
Oh I agree.

I thought you meant you didn’t have one in the organization itself.

Holtz profiles a lot like Olofsson to be fair

- Pegullaville


I do think holtz has a higher ceiling and be better at 5v5 but I agree same profile

The devil's PP was atrocious the last few years as they had no pure scorer or sniper, palms was good but not enough.

Sharangovic looked very good his rookie year and hopefully builds on that and tatar should also help but Nico and Hughes need someone else on their wings who can score, they set up alot but devil's have a hard time getting it on goal and in the net

Hamilton and Smith will help from the backend
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'm probably moving olo for a future 1st and a goaltending prospect at the deadline or offseason.

If he scores 20- 25 goals without eichel or a true #1 c, and likes buffalo... I give him the matt moulson special 5 x 5.

His age vs. Tank4 could really be the deciding factor.

We will need to spend some cash to get to the cap floor the next few seasons.

Hate to finally hit on a late round pick and not reap the benefits.....

Uncle ion may disagree, but I think olo's skating is very under appreciated. He has good speed and vision IMO.
The nhl is a growing process.

78 points in 116 nhl games is just the tip of the iceberg.

Imagine not liking him? Anti Sabres gonna anti sabre I guess.

- Boss34


He can look surprisingly fast at times
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:27 PM ET
He can look surprisingly fast at times
- Hank Balling


OLO makes nice passes if you notice as well. Head up, passes made but they do not get noticed by the hating OLO Sabres fan.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
If OLO is not very good defensively why was he trusted by both Ralph and Granato to play OT, I mean he is no Selke but he can play 3v3 where you do have to cover your own end and be able to skate some.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
If OLO is not very good defensively why was he trusted by both Ralph and Granato to play OT, I mean he is no Selke but he can play 3v3 where you do have to cover your own end and be able to skate some.
- GilPerreault11


Plenty of space for him to unleash that wicked shot.

The combination of Eichel and Olo in overtime was pretty, pretty good

https://youtu.be/mIWAsEkfSP8
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
Plenty of space for him to unleash that wicked wrister.

The combination of Eichel and Olo in overtime was pretty, pretty good

https://youtu.be/mIWAsEkfSP8

- Hank Balling


True, but you don't want to lose either and so I think he has some ability to not f#ck up to lose the game.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
I'm probably moving olo for a future 1st and a goaltending prospect at the deadline or offseason.

If he scores 20- 25 goals without eichel or a true #1 c, and likes buffalo... I give him the matt moulson special 5 x 5.

His age vs. Tank4 could really be the deciding factor.

We will need to spend some cash to get to the cap floor the next few seasons.

Hate to finally hit on a late round pick and not reap the benefits.....

Uncle ion may disagree, but I think olo's skating is very under appreciated. He has good speed and vision IMO.
The nhl is a growing process.

78 points in 116 nhl games is just the tip of the iceberg.

Imagine not liking him? Anti Sabres gonna anti sabre I guess.

- Boss34


Olofsson does skate well, but not consistently enough. I wish he would use his speed more.

If you get a 1st round pick for him, you're turning a 7th round pick into a 1st in a strong draft, which sounds like reaping benefit from drafting Olofsson to me.

Overall, you have a plan which doesn't involve walking him to UFA status, and that was the point I was making with Ullmark.

Ideally, for me, I'd make a decision on him now and not wait until next offseason as I prefer to not wait until there is only one year of team control left.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
Puppa had better numbers for the Sabres than Fuhr did.

They traded Andreychuk, Puppa, and a 93’ 1st (Kenny Jonsson) for Fuhr and a 4th.


They lost 3 OT games in the playoffs to Montreal.

You can’t tell me Andreychuk couldn’t have helped them there.


If there was ever a trade where Muckler was trying to get the band back together, its this trade.

- dadeadhead


I'm not arguing that Fuhr was better than Puppa, nor am I arguing that it was a good trade. I am just saying that Puppa wasn't good enough to get them there. Obviously, losing Andreychuk hurt too, but the only hope of a Cup that year would have been Hasek catching fire a year sooner than he did. Muckler wasn't ready to give him the reigns yet judging by how little he played pre and post trade.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
If OLO is not very good defensively why was he trusted by both Ralph and Granato to play OT, I mean he is no Selke but he can play 3v3 where you do have to cover your own end and be able to skate some.
- GilPerreault11


He was much improved defensively when watching the last 20 games, and maybe that's why his offense dried up a bit.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:56 PM ET
He was much improved defensively when watching the last 20 games, and maybe that's why his offense dried up a bit.
- kingcong39


I thought that over those last 20 games he definitely showed more upside than most of us assumed we had. Being on Jack's line really casts a shadow over his linemates because Jack always had the puck. Olo is faster than I thought he was and wasn't as easy to knock off the puck than I thought he was. Not saying he is worth his contract but he could still be part of the long-term solution.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 30 @ 3:04 PM ET

Marcel Louis-Jacques
@Marcel_LJ
Before things get too hectic, I have a personal update – this will be my last week covering the Bills.

This community has made me feel so welcome these past two years and I can’t say enough about how much that’s meant to me. Even 2,000 miles from California I felt at home in WNY


This sucks, he was a huge upgrade over Rodak
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 30 @ 3:11 PM ET
I thought that over those last 20 games he definitely showed more upside than most of us assumed we had. Being on Jack's line really casts a shadow over his linemates because Jack always had the puck. Olo is faster than I thought he was and wasn't as easy to knock off the puck than I thought he was. Not saying he is worth his contract but he could still be part of the long-term solution.
- Slump Buster


The puck still died on his stick more than I would like to see, but I'm hoping he improves that this season.
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