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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 30 @ 3:19 PM ET
What happens when “the real Tony Soprano” buys his 17-year-old son a hockey team? A roaring, brawling, bruising, and absolutely bananas dumpster fire on the ice.

Untold: Crime & Penalties on August 31. https://t.co/yVvGMUj43k

https://twitter.com/netfl.../1431277829111435264?s=19
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 30 @ 3:23 PM ET
What happens when “the real Tony Soprano” buys his 17-year-old son a hockey team? A roaring, brawling, bruising, and absolutely bananas dumpster fire on the ice.

Untold: Crime & Penalties on August 31. https://t.co/yVvGMUj43k

https://twitter.com/netfl.../1431277829111435264?s=19

- kingcong39


The good old UHL...

Complete NIGHTMARE
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 30 @ 3:24 PM ET
Marcel Louis-Jacques
@Marcel_LJ
Before things get too hectic, I have a personal update – this will be my last week covering the Bills.

This community has made me feel so welcome these past two years and I can’t say enough about how much that’s meant to me. Even 2,000 miles from California I felt at home in WNY


This sucks, he was a huge upgrade over Rodak

- Stripes77


Wonder who takes his place.
Pingleheimer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Member at Cazenovia CC
Joined: 07.24.2021

Aug 30 @ 3:26 PM ET
Wonder who takes his place.
- buffalofan19


Garth
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 30 @ 3:33 PM ET
If OLO is not very good defensively why was he trusted by both Ralph and Granato to play OT, I mean he is no Selke but he can play 3v3 where you do have to cover your own end and be able to skate some.
- GilPerreault11



Very minimal defense in the OT....
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 3:35 PM ET
Very minimal defense in the OT....
- DirtyDan


Sometimes very minimal offense, what does that tell you?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
You have control of Olofsson for this season and next, as next season is his last as an RFA before he becomes a UFA.

You're the Sabres GM: What is your long term plan with Olofsson?

- kingcong39


It's the Sabres:

Plan A: Play him too high in the lineup and inflate his production, then overpay on a long term extension.

Plan B: his production is similar, he misses some time again, so they hesitate and give a 1 year deal.

Plan C: Ventura has a real voice and they deal him at the deadline.
The_Inkwell
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 30 @ 3:47 PM ET
Marcel Louis-Jacques
@Marcel_LJ
Before things get too hectic, I have a personal update – this will be my last week covering the Bills.

This community has made me feel so welcome these past two years and I can’t say enough about how much that’s meant to me. Even 2,000 miles from California I felt at home in WNY


This sucks, he was a huge upgrade over Rodak

- Stripes77


That's too bad. I really liked his work.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Olofsson does skate well, but not consistently enough. I wish he would use his speed more.

If you get a 1st round pick for him, you're turning a 7th round pick into a 1st in a strong draft, which sounds like reaping benefit from drafting Olofsson to me.

Overall, you have a plan which doesn't involve walking him to UFA status, and that was the point I was making with Ullmark.

Ideally, for me, I'd make a decision on him now and not wait until next offseason as I prefer to not wait until there is only one year of team control left.

- kingcong39



Very respectable and reasonable post. 🤝

I'd personally like to see what he does without other top talent around him.

Seems like the perfect year for that stance ...

I'm more of a pp goals count the same as non pp goals.
Sure, he needs to work on his 5 x 5 , but he's still learning the nhl game ...
If not, other players can be 5 x 5 guys. Let him be the pp guy. Especially if he sniffs 30... 18 pp and 12 5x5.

Someone's gonna feed him the biscuit down low...
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
It's the Sabres:

Plan A: Play him too high in the lineup and inflate his production, then overpay on a long term extension.

Plan B: his production is similar, he misses some time again, so they hesitate and give a 1 year deal.

Plan C: Ventura has a real voice and they deal him at the deadline.

- Lunaion


Or, you play and develop the 7th round pick to a Calder candidate, make him a top 6 forward pay him in the 3 millions a year and have the option of keeping that increased valued player or trade that increased valued player. for much more than a 7th round pick. Of course, they could have played him on the 4th line and all the OLO haters would hate him but just for different reasons. Now, they had OLO helping Jack achieve his best year and increase his value as a trade commodity. But, of course Skinner, who was supposed to help give a 2nd line and not lead the team to 40 goals and 5th worst team in the league again with only one line as they did in his 40 goal year. But Skinner...
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 3:58 PM ET
It's the Sabres:

Plan A: Play him too high in the lineup and inflate his production, then overpay on a long term extension.

Plan B: his production is similar, he misses some time again, so they hesitate and give a 1 year deal.

Plan C: Ventura has a real voice and they deal him at the deadline.

- Lunaion



May I ask "what's too high in the lineup"
Who's the #1 center? Who's better than olo, jeffry skimmer 😀?

I think the asplund mitts timber is our 2B /3A line. Keep them together. ATM

So that probably puts cozensons at the #1C spot?
Skimmer - cozens- olofsson
Would be my guess...

If his production is similar, they should give him the key to the city, all he did was ride Jackie's coattails.. 🤔

Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 30 @ 3:59 PM ET
If it wasn't obvious before, it should be painfully obvious now just how much every single team and their fans massively overestimate and over value their prospects.

It's crystal clear in Eichel trade scenarios and we definitely have posters here who talk like most of the Sabres prospects are going to turn into quality NHL players, when the reality is quite different.

It's interesting how the NHL is like this while the NBA is not.

- kingcong39

Sabres have a middle-6 winger with a killer shot whom they selected in the 7th round.

7th rounders are usually picked for one trait that gives them an outside chance at making the NHL. The Sabres have one. Now people want to get rid of him? Because why exactly?

I don't get it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 4:00 PM ET
Or, you play and develop the 7th round pick to a Calder candidate, make him a top 6 forward pay him in the 3 millions a year and have the option of keeping that increased valued player or trade that increased valued player. for much more than a 7th round pick. Of course, they could have played him on the 4th line and all the OLO haters would hate him but just for different reasons. Now, they had OLO helping Jack achieve his best year and increase his value as a trade commodity. But, of course Skinner, who was supposed to help give a 2nd line and not lead the team to 40 goals and 5th worst team in the league again with only one line as they did in his 40 goal year. But Skinner...
- GilPerreault11


Good post:

But ralph ruined skimmer and dahlin....

Olofsson was also coached by ralph, of course that's different.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 30 @ 4:02 PM ET
Sabres have a middle-6 winger with a killer shot whom they selected in the 7th round.

7th rounders are usually picked for one trait that gives them an outside chance at making the NHL. The Sabres have one. Now people want to get rid of him? Because why exactly?

I don't get it.

- Michael Pachla


I think the problem with Olo is that he is a complimentary player. What will he be without Jack? At this point his draft position doesn't matter. I have no problem moving him in the right deal.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 4:05 PM ET
Good post:

But ralph ruined skimmer and dahlin....

Olofsson was also coached by ralph, of course that's different.

- Boss34


But that kind of goes against 39 argument that 7th round picks and 1st overalls, or 2nds, are not on a different level and are equal. So developing OLO should matter. OLOSMATTER
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
I think the problem with Olo is that he is a complimentary player. What will he be without Jack? At this point his draft position doesn't matter. I have no problem moving him in the right deal.
- Slump Buster


If the Sabres move him what will the PP look like, who will be even a threat even strength on the wing? 3 million is not a lot of money for a 20+ goal scorer.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 4:12 PM ET
But that kind of goes against 39 argument that 7th round picks and 1st overalls, or 2nds, are not on a different level and are equal. So developing OLO should matter. OLOSMATTER
- GilPerreault11


🙂

I get it, 39 is a sammer. Its really hard to back a player for 7 years and see the mediocre return both of us predicted.

Olo picked 179 picks later was a steal. A gem. A find.

The other guy, not so much. Especially when drystatl was there for the taking.

The former 23 ...... it's not his fault where he got picked 😀

Like a player couldn't put in more effort and become a better player.

It's not jamarcus Russell 's fault either, nor ryan leaf 😉
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 30 @ 4:14 PM ET
If the Sabres move him what will the PP look like, who will be even a threat even strength on the wing? 3 million is not a lot of money for a 20+ goal scorer.
- GilPerreault11

if they don't move him and teams just man cover olo because he is the only weapon on the PP what will our PP look like
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Aug 30 @ 4:15 PM ET
If the Sabres move him what will the PP look like, who will be even a threat even strength on the wing? 3 million is not a lot of money for a 20+ goal scorer.
- GilPerreault11



I don't know if they will have the luxury of leaving a guy in the high slot all of the time. He was open a lot because teams worried about Jack beating someone one-on-one. I don't hate him at all - I think the jury is out as to what he will be like without Jack. Will he even score 20 anymore?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 4:15 PM ET
Sabres have a middle-6 winger with a killer shot whom they selected in the 7th round.

7th rounders are usually picked for one trait that gives them an outside chance at making the NHL. The Sabres have one. Now people want to get rid of him? Because why exactly?

I don't get it.

- Michael Pachla


I don't get it either, well actually I do and stated why many want to usher him out the door.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 4:17 PM ET
I don't know if they will have the luxury of leaving a guy in the high slot all of the time. He was open a lot because teams worried about Jack beating someone one-on-one. I don't hate him at all - I think the jury is out as to what he will be like without Jack. Will he even score 20 anymore?
- Slump Buster


Maybe give him a year without Jack before you string him up by his balls?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
May I ask "what's too high in the lineup"
Who's the #1 center? Who's better than olo, jeffry skimmer 😀?

I think the asplund mitts timber is our 2B /3A line. Keep them together. ATM

So that probably puts cozensons at the #1C spot?
Skimmer - cozens- olofsson
Would be my guess...

If his production is similar, they should give him the key to the city, all he did was ride Jackie's coattails.. 🤔

- Boss34


A couple guys on this team will see top line and top PP minutes and put up 50 points. I won't be giving them keys to the city.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 30 @ 4:19 PM ET
I don't know if they will have the luxury of leaving a guy in the high slot all of the time. He was open a lot because teams worried about Jack beating someone one-on-one. I don't hate him at all - I think the jury is out as to what he will be like without Jack. Will he even score 20 anymore?
- Slump Buster


The entire powerplay will need to be re-imagined without Reinhart looking for tips, Eichel drawing two men into the left halfwall and Risto either dishing from the point or screening
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 4:21 PM ET
if they don't move him and teams just man cover olo because he is the only weapon on the PP what will our PP look like
- SabresFaninIndiana


No other Nhl coach thought of that last season?

Yes , eichel takes 2 guys, so maybe it's a concern, moving forward.

I think olo's shot , skating and ice awareness is completely under appreciated. He's gonna find some open looks .... IMO
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 30 @ 4:23 PM ET
The entire powerplay will need to be re-imagined without Reinhart looking for tips, Eichel drawing two men into the left halfwall and Risto either dishing from the point or screening
- Hank Balling


Mitts on the high wall, Cozens in front, OLO on his wing spot, Dahlin the QB and whoever else on the point, Bryson maybe.
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