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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 30 @ 5:07 PM ET
Karine Hains: All Quiet on the Northern Front 48 hours after the Hurricanes signed Kotkaniemi to an offer sheet, the Montreal Canadiens have yet to make any announcement about the situation, unlike what the Canes had done a couple of years ago when the roles were reversed.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 30 @ 5:10 PM ET
Karine
Hains: All Quiet on the Northern Front

48 hours after the Hurricanes signed Kotkaniemi to an offer sheet, the Montreal Canadiens have yet to make any announcement about the situation, unlike what the Canes had done a couple of years ago when the roles were reversed.

- Karine Hains

Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 30 @ 5:16 PM ET
MB is examining all of his options. Such as acquiring Shaw and Strome from the Hawks.

Shaw would give the habs an additional 3.9M in LTIR cap space if they decide to match. Strome would be a center to replace KK if MB is not going to match.

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 30 @ 5:17 PM ET
MB is examining all of his options. Such as acquiring Shaw and Strome from the Hawks.

Shaw would give the habs an additional 3.9M in LTIR cap space if they decide to match. Strome would be a center to replace KK if MB is not going to match.

- Gramps28

yeah, make an even worst mistake to fix the first one. brillant.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 5:19 PM ET
From my perspective the only things that should matter are whether Kotkaniemi really wants out of Montreal, whether he signed because he'd be stupid not to take that money or whether it's both. If he wants out, sadly I think the Habs need to eat a poopty return and move on
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 5:20 PM ET
yeah, make an even worst mistake to fix the first one. brillant.
- fidopro

Hold my beer

- MB
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 30 @ 5:23 PM ET
yeah, make an even worst mistake to fix the first one. brillant.
- fidopro

well, they need cap space if they are going to match. strome would be the 2nd best center if they don't. cheaper than dvorak, too.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 30 @ 5:28 PM ET
From my perspective the only things that should matter are whether Kotkaniemi really wants out of Montreal, whether he signed because he'd be stupid not to take that money or whether it's both. If he wants out, sadly I think the Habs need to eat a poopty return and move on
- Takemedrunkimhome

i obviously don't watch him like you do. do you think he is worth the risk of matching and ending up paying him that much? i've been thinking all along they're just going to have to let him go but then i see people wondering what they should do, so it must not be as cut and dry as i was thinking?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 30 @ 5:28 PM ET
Hold my beer

- MB

- Takemedrunkimhome

where's that lady who screemed a big WTF at the draft?
she must be laughing
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 5:38 PM ET
i obviously don't watch him like you do. do you think he is worth the risk of matching and ending up paying him that much? i've been thinking all along they're just going to have to let him go but then i see people wondering what they should do, so it must not be as cut and dry as i was thinking?
- kicksave856

Like I said, depends if he wants to be here. If he does, then I think you match just to not be pushed around but the contract sucks. If he doesn't, you let him go and you take the poopty return. Either way the options aren't good
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 5:41 PM ET
where's that lady who screemed a big WTF at the draft?
she must be laughing

- fidopro

I'd love to see a study of GM draft success vs consensus draft big boards
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 30 @ 5:43 PM ET
I'd love to see a study of GM draft success vs consensus draft big boards
- Takemedrunkimhome

the draft is the easiest thing to evaluate. not on the spot, but 3-5-7 years later.
we are now 3 years past the draft, and it's not looking good.
Mithos
Joined: 04.14.2021

Aug 30 @ 5:44 PM ET
Those close to Kotkaniemi predicted he had played 'last game' with Habs following playoff scratch

https://www.tsn.ca/jesper...lina-hurricanes-1.1687237

KK wants out of MTL, there is no freaking debate on that
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Aug 30 @ 5:54 PM ET
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Aug 30 @ 5:58 PM ET

- stinger67

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 30 @ 6:11 PM ET
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 30 @ 6:14 PM ET

- stinger67


If i'm Bergevin right now I'm out there shopping those Carolina picks to see what kind of center I can get.

If I can line something up for an affordable, reasonably young guy capable of 40~ points, I let KK walk and pull the trigger.

Bergevin probably matches though, just to save face.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 30 @ 6:17 PM ET
If i'm Bergevin right now I'm out there shopping those Carolina picks to see what kind of center I can get.

If I can line something up for an affordable, reasonably young guy capable of 40~ points, I let KK walk and pull the trigger.

Bergevin probably matches though, just to save face.

- BINGO!

dylan strome is available and he can do that. a 2nd and a 3rd gets it done.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 30 @ 6:20 PM ET
dylan strome is available and he can do that. a 2nd and a 3rd gets it done.
- Gramps28


there ya go.

You gain a probably similarly effective offensive player that won't (frank) up your cap structure and another first round pick to try and replace KK.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 30 @ 6:21 PM ET
If i'm Bergevin right now I'm out there shopping those Carolina picks to see what kind of center I can get.

If I can line something up for an affordable, reasonably young guy capable of 40~ points, I let KK walk and pull the trigger.

Bergevin probably matches though, just to save face.

- BINGO!


Again, some mediocre center plug into the middle 6 is not going to make or break the Habs season.

If the Habs are taking the picks, use them wisely, get talent and go full rebuild. They should be doing that, regardless if KK is part of the team or not.

Anything else should be the defacto end of MB sooner than later.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 30 @ 6:27 PM ET
there ya go.

You gain a probably similarly effective offensive player that won't (frank) up your cap structure and another first round pick to try and replace KK.

- BINGO!

hawks can even send shaw to give the habs additional LTIR cap space to sign some one else, if needed.

strome is only signed for one year at 3M. So no long term cap implications, either.

we will just not mention that strome is the worst skater in the league and pretty useless on 75% of the ice but below the dots is pretty good.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 30 @ 6:29 PM ET
hawks can even send shaw to give the habs additional LTIR cap space to sign some one else, if needed.

strome is only signed for one year at 3M. So no long term cap implications, either.

we will just not mention that strome is the worst skater in the league and pretty useless on 75% of the ice but below the dots is pretty good.

- Gramps28


voilà. better options are probably availalble.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Aug 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
voilà. better options are probably availalble.
- fidopro

like who?
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Aug 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
If i'm Bergevin right now I'm out there shopping those Carolina picks to see what kind of center I can get.

If I can line something up for an affordable, reasonably young guy capable of 40~ points, I let KK walk and pull the trigger.

Bergevin probably matches though, just to save face.

- BINGO!


That wouldn't be saving face, that would be the nail in the coffin. If KK isn't open to signing a reduced AAV extension in Mtl, like it is rumored he will in Carolina, MB better just take the picks and move on. If he matches just to keep him for a year before having to qualify him at 6 again, ouch.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
like who?
- Gramps28

bro
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