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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
How would you make the cap floor if you didn't match?
- kingcong39


Anderson just got a huge raise for 1 year to lead the Tank..err losing with dignity march.
As Murray said, there isn't a problem making the Cap Floor.

The risk of an OS right now I believe is between 0 and 2% while they are negotiating a deal. It's the threat if they go with a short-term deal that becomes more likely.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:13 PM ET
What would be the worst? I'll go with 4 years @ 8.2m. first/second/third comp and makes him a UFA at the earliest possible date. You'd have to match, and you'd be pissed.
- Lunaion


I'll escalate your idea further: The team offering the offer sheet back loads the deal in such a way that it complicates things for the Sabres in terms of being able to make the cap floor this season if they do match.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 4 @ 12:14 PM ET
ty...a quick ask, he'll still have three more rfa seasons, correct?
- Michael Pachla


Yes. Would take him 7 seasons to hit UFA.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:15 PM ET
Meh, then extend him at the end of year 3 for 8 years....call the whole scenarios "Canes-Habs Duel -The Sequell".
Once extended, OS the other team's RFA, lol!

- IonSabres


I know you're joking considering where the Sabres will be picking the next 2 seasons.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 4 @ 12:15 PM ET
https://billswire.usatoda...osh-allen-fifth-best-nfl/
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 4 @ 12:16 PM ET
Nobody knows anymore ... there are no "insiders" except what the Org wants leaked.

I'm flipping to a 30% chance he stays here...primarily after he sees what the team plays like under a longer Granato run. Just keep him out long enough to secure a 2nd to garner a top 3 pick I. '22.
Eichel, Wright, Cozens, Mitts down the middle would be unbelievable!

- IonSabres


Is it odd that Shawn Simpson had that piece of info on Eichel and not Friedman (who has become the media mouthpiece for Eichel with the back doctor story, and then broke the agent switch story)?

If Eichel wanted that info out there I think it goes through Friedman.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 4 @ 12:16 PM ET
I'll escalate your idea further: The team offering the offer sheet back loads the deal in such a way that it complicates things for the Sabres in terms of being able to make the cap floor this season if they do match.
- kingcong39


Is that even possible? It's cap floor, not a $ floor, isn't it?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 4 @ 12:18 PM ET
Is that even possible? It's cap floor, not a $ floor, isn't it?
- Lunaion

Yeah still would go by AVV for the whole contract would it not, but could be wrong.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:19 PM ET
https://images.app.goo.gl/hxQoHBEDe4eVP9N37
- Buff36

right!?

perfect
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 4 @ 12:20 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Canes...ion-day-for-kotkaniemi%2F



kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
Is that even possible? It's cap floor, not a $ floor, isn't it?
- Lunaion


I'm talking about offering a max term deal where the AAV for offer sheet purposes would be higher then the actual AAV if the Sabres matched.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
Yes. Would take him 7 seasons to hit UFA.
- Lunaion

so a three year deal would take him to an arb-eligible, final year of restricted free agency?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 4 @ 12:25 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Canes...ion-day-for-kotkaniemi%2F



Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:32 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Canes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1434162724670480394%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailygoalhorn.com%2Fhurricanes-social-media-trolling-canadiens-on-decision-day-for-kotkaniemi%2F




- homiedclown

gotta hand it to the canes
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:32 PM ET
Is that even possible? It's cap floor, not a $ floor, isn't it?
- Lunaion


I'm thinking in terms of structuring the deal in such a way that the offer sheet AAV is higher then the actual AAV if the Sabres were to match, when you factor in the Sabres desire to trade Eichel and take as little cap back as possible.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:33 PM ET
so a three year deal would take him to an arb-eligible, final year of restricted free agency?
- Michael Pachla


Yes, it would be the Reinhart situation again.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yes, it would be the Reinhart situation again.
- kingcong39

ic...fair enough, it very well could be a skunk situation...that said

i'm still going with 2/3 yr deal or 8yr deal...no in between...and my preference would be a two-year deal at $5.5m per
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 4 @ 12:39 PM ET
so a three year deal would take him to an arb-eligible, final year of restricted free agency?
- Michael Pachla


Put the tough decisions off 3 years and let the next GM deal with it
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 4 @ 12:43 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Canes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1434162724670480394%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailygoalhorn.com%2Fhurricanes-social-media-trolling-canadiens-on-decision-day-for-kotkaniemi%2F




- homiedclown



Their front office gets an A+ for all of this.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:46 PM ET
Put the tough decisions off 3 years and let the next GM deal with it

- Lunaion

or put it off for two years, which would be third year of the kagm regime:

tim murray--3yrs, 3 mo
botts--3 yrs, 1 mo
adams--tbd
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 4 @ 12:51 PM ET
or put it off for two years, which would be third year of the kagm regime:

tim murray--3yrs, 3 mo
botts--3 yrs, 1 mo
adams--tbd

- Michael Pachla


Imagine having a GM for 16 years
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
Imagine having a GM for 16 years
- Hank Balling

Seems a long time ago
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
Are we behaving today?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 4 @ 1:00 PM ET
Are we behaving today?
- Stripes77

https://images.app.goo.gl/57HFR7dLwXpSRvge8
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'm not sure if it's gotten any play here but Kyle Okposo said he's been skating with Eichel.

Maybe that doesn't mean anything, maybe it does

- Hank Balling


Maybe he's "looking for answers"
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