he's a 30 point guy, pat. he is one of the reason the yotes sucked.
- Gramps28

In an 82 game season last year he would have got 45 points

he's never had 40
- Gramps28

closer to 40 than 30

In an 82 game season last year he would have got 45 points
- habs88888

there you go

closer to 40 than 30
- deadpoulet

ah

He's a high-end 3rd line center and not s low-end one

closer to 40 than 30
- deadpoulet

the guy also had 109 pts in 66 games with the London Knights in 2014-15, and 121 pts in 59 games in 2015-16, are these kinds of stats that common?

closer to 40 than 30
- deadpoulet

and that's while playing top6 minutes and PP, yes?
impressive

and that's while playing top6 minutes and PP, yes?
impressive
- fidopro

but in Arizona... not saying the change of scenery is a magical thing, but come on

but in Arizona... not saying the change of scenery is a magical thing, but come on
- Pat1993

depends what you're looking for Pat.
if you want a winning team, he's not the answer to play behind Suzuki. said it multiple times. decent player, but not much of an upgrade over kk. imho

and that's while playing top6 minutes and PP, yes?
impressive
- fidopro

well, probably more impressive than have Evans or Perreault as a 2nd C

Losing KK is making me sad.

Replacing him with Dvorak is making me sadder.

well, probably more impressive than have Evans or Perreault as a 2nd C
- deadpoulet

true. like i said, depends what you're looking for. if they want to win... it will take more than Dvorak. if they want to fight and try to survive... he's perfect.

depends what you're looking for Pat.
if you want a winning team, he's not the answer to play behind Suzuki. said it multiple times. decent player, but not much of an upgrade over kk. imho
- fidopro

Having Knutnesov at almost $8MM a season is also not an answer neither but either way they also need a puck moving d

Losing KK is making me sad.

Replacing him with Dvorak is making me sadder.
- Scabeh

when you'll see him on his ass every other shifts in CAR you'll get over it.

when you'll see him on his ass every other shifts in CAR you'll get over it.
- fidopro

I don't think so.

Even if KK turns into a complete flop (which I don't think will be the case), it won't make me less sad that another 3rd overall pick by our team ended up giving us no star player at all.

Losing KK is making me sad.

Replacing him with Dvorak is making me sadder.
- Scabeh

is Dvorak a defensive liability? I haven't seen him play that much, so perhaps I'm missing something.

but yeah for me the absolute worst-case scenario would be that KK flourishes in Carolina and becomes the young center we were hoping for... that would sting like a (frank)ing female dog.

when you'll see him on his ass every other shifts in CAR you'll get over it.
- fidopro

is Dvorak a defensive liability? I haven't seen him play that much, so perhaps I'm missing something.

but yeah for me the absolute worst-case scenario would be that KK flourishes in Carolina and becomes the young center we were hoping for... that would sting like a (frank)ing female dog.
- Pat1993

he will probably play on the wing over there

I don't think so.

Even if KK turns into a complete flop (which I don't think will be the case), it won't make me less sad that another 3rd overall pick by our team ended up giving us no star player at all.
- Scabeh

oh I feel the same. but hanging on to him wouldn't change that. if all goes well, I could see him becoming a Getzlaf light. 50 pts, physical presence along the boards... but nothing more. many picked after him will have better careers imo.
hello trevor!

he will probably play on the wing over there
- deadpoulet

yeah CAR weren't really in need of a center, which makes it even more obvious Waddell just wanted to (frank) around with Bergevin... but wherever he plays if he produces it's gonna suck to hear as a habs fan

yeah CAR weren't really in need of a center, which makes it even more obvious Waddell just wanted to (frank) around with Bergevin... but wherever he plays if he produces it's gonna suck to hear as a habs fan
- Pat1993

they're the ones (frank)ed by this offersheet. pretty sure they expected MB to match.
they're now 1.5M over the cap

they're the ones (frank)ed by this offersheet. pretty sure they expected MB to match.
- fidopro

Well the pressure remains on KK and now them.

If he has another subpar year.... he could very well find himself as a free agent.

they're the ones (frank)ed by this offersheet. pretty sure they expected MB to match.
they're now 1.5M over the cap
- fidopro

Yeah, with 3 weeks before camp, that's kinda (frank)ed up.

oh I feel the same. but hanging on to him wouldn't change that. if all goes well, I could see him becoming a Getzlaf light. 50 pts, physical presence along the boards... but nothing more. many picked after him will have better careers imo.
hello trevor!
- fidopro

about Timmins and drafting in general, I was wondering, do GMs across the league have veto power over their scouts and director of scouting when it comes to the draft?

about Timmins and drafting in general, I was wondering, do GMs across the league have veto power over their scouts and director of scouting when it comes to the draft?
- Pat1993

Well the GM is the boss.

So at the end of the day, what he says goes.

Timmins got shafted a few times in his career.

Yeah, with 3 weeks before camp, that's kinda (frank)ed up.

- Scabeh

I read comments saying it was a "brilliant move by the Canes" but I don't really see it either to be honest, all things considered.