Sounding more and more that Dvorak will land here. If the return is only a late 1st and a conditional 2nd in 2024, this could be a serious win
- MONSTERSofMETALZ

Are they also shopping Poehling and Mailloux?

Sounding more and more that Dvorak will land here. If the return is only a late 1st and a conditional 2nd in 2024, this could be a serious win
- MONSTERSofMETALZ

When will they announce it?

When will they announce it?
- habs88888

Dude I’m not the one having infos lol

But I guess they’ll do it at 17:30 when letting KK go.

Sounding more and more that Dvorak will land here. If the return is only a late 1st and a conditional 2nd in 2024, this could be a serious win
- MONSTERSofMETALZ

I'd say Carolina's pick will be a mid one, but sounds like a fair enough deal. A little under 40 points (his projections are higher for 82 games) playing on that dumpster fire sounds like a decent 2nd line center to me. Of course it still has to be clarified what the KK decision is. Also has a good contract.

I'd say Carolina's pick will be a mid one, but sounds like a fair enough deal. A little under 40 points (his projections are higher for 82 games) playing on that dumpster fire sounds like a decent 2nd line center to me. Of course it still has to be clarified what the KK decision is. Also has a good contract.
- apex123

If KK is gone the centres will likely be as follows
Suzuki - 1C
Dvorak - 2C
Drouin - 3C
Evans - 4C

I'd say Carolina's pick will be a mid one, but sounds like a fair enough deal. A little under 40 points (his projections are higher for 82 games) playing on that dumpster fire sounds like a decent 2nd line center to me. Of course it still has to be clarified what the KK decision is.
- apex123

Dvorak is decent. Only 25, 4years left. Played without any decent wingers in Arizona. He’s averaging 52-53% on FO. He’s also a tank
I’d be pretty happy if the trade is this.

Also, Habs are supposly on another folder with a East team. 2 trades? 1? I don’t know

Dvorak is decent. Only 25, 4years left. Played without any decent wingers in Arizona. He’s averaging 52-53% on FO. He’s also a tank
I’d be pretty happy if the trade is this.

Also, Habs are supposly on another folder with a East team. 2 trades? 1? I don’t know
- MONSTERSofMETALZ

So kind of a like a combo of Danault and KK

If KK is gone the centres will likely be as follows
Suzuki - 1C
Dvorak - 2C
Drouin - 3C
Evans - 4C
- habs88888

I'd go Poehling and Evans in the 3rd and 4th depending on who earns it, but Dvorak is an undisputable upgrade to KK, right now at least. I can easily see Dvorak hitting 50 points given the strength on the wings.

So kind of a like a combo of Danault and KK
- habs88888

Could be Bozak as well. I’ve seen his name since yesterday lol. So Dvorak and Bozak maybe?

Dvorak is decent. Only 25, 4years left. Played without any decent wingers in Arizona. He’s averaging 52-53% on FO. He’s also a tank
I’d be pretty happy if the trade is this.

Also, Habs are supposly on another folder with a East team. 2 trades? 1? I don’t know
- MONSTERSofMETALZ

Yeah I added in after contract is good and from what I see looks like a very decent 2nd line center. Seems like a good trade for both sides.

Yeah I added in after contract is good and from what I see looks like a very decent 2nd line center. Seems like a good trade for both sides.
- apex123

on a losing team yes

(frank) it’s taking long and dumb peanut thinks I am lying with David Pagnotta
- habs88888

hihihi

on a losing team yes
- fidopro

With no supporting cast; yes. I take him over KK any day of th week. And it isn’t a knock on KK.

With no supporting cast; yes. I take him over KK any day of th week. And it isn’t a knock on KK.
- Habsody

oh same here, but kk is not a 2nd line center either.
if Dvorak becomes a Habs, Mtl have improved their 3rd line. still a hole on the 2nd. imho

on a losing team yes
- fidopro

That honestly strengthens the argument that he's good. He's looked decent despite playing on a dumpster fire.

That honestly strengthens the argument that he's good. He's looked decent despite playing on a dumpster fire.
- apex123

no no no.
remember Phaneuf when he was in Toronto? he didn't suck because he was a Leafs. Leafs sucked because they had him as #1D.
same thing with Dvorak.

no no no.
remember Phaneuf when he was in Toronto? he didn't suck because he was a Leafs. Leafs sucked because they had him as #1D.
same thing with Dvorak.
- fidopro

The Leafs had Tyler Bozak as their number one center and no forward worth a damn besides Kessel. Phaneuf was a number 4 playing as a number 1. I don't see this as a remotely convincing argument Dvorak is miscast as a #2 center.

The Leafs had Tyler Bozak as their number one center and no forward worth a damn besides Kessel. Phaneuf was a number 4 playing as a number 1. I don't see this as a remotely convincing argument Dvorak is miscast as a #2 center.
- apex123

it's exactly the same thing. if you have a bad team, Dvorak will be your 2nd line center. if you have a good team, he'll be your 3rd.

it's exactly the same thing. if you have a bad team, Dvorak will be your 2nd line center. if you have a good team, he'll be your 3rd.
- fidopro

So....
Suzuki
Drouin
Dvorak
Evans?

So....
Suzuki
Drouin
Dvorak
Evans?

- braidan

or someonelse. rumour has it Habs are working on something. we'll see.
but you don't have a winning team with Suzuki Dvorak as your 1-2 punch. sorry.

Drouin or someonelse. rumour has it Habs are working on something. we'll see.
but you don't have a winning team with Suzuki Dvorak as your 1-2 punch. sorry.
- fidopro

Neither with Suzuki - KK. But we wee down a C to start a week ago. KK was a 3+ while Dvorak feels like a 2- but meh they still need a C.
Some commenter online suggested Caps wanted Kuznetskov gone but who knows

it's exactly the same thing. if you have a bad team, Dvorak will be your 2nd line center. if you have a good team, he'll be your 3rd.
- fidopro

He's putting up around 40 points (on a garbage team), has a decent f/o% and from what I read is responsible defensively. He would only be slotting down to a 3rd line role if a team was stacked with centers like Toronto (and we know what the price of that is, a poop team besides the best 4-5 players). Suzuki-Dvorak-Evans-Perreault or Poehling is decent enough imo to try for the playoffs IF we got a dman upgrade.

Neither with Suzuki - KK. But we wee down a C to start a week ago. KK was a 3+ while Dvorak feels like a 2- but meh they still need a C.
Some commenter online suggested Caps wanted Kuznetskov gone but who knows
- braidan

voilà. to me Dvorak is an improvement over kk, but still not a #2C. not on a winning team.

or someonelse. rumour has it Habs are working on something. we'll see.
but you don't have a winning team with Suzuki Dvorak as your 1-2 punch. sorry.
- fidopro

I'm curious, do you think Danault is significantly better than Dvorak?

maybe the wingers were bad because they had a miscast center in AZ?