The is some concern with deals like Batherson's. The contract fairly compensates him in his current role as a top-6 forward on a substandard squad. $5 million looks affordable for Batherson today.

Assuming Melnyk continues to allow Dorion to assemeble a competitive roster, it is useful to consider many of the current players will eventually slot much lower in the line-up. Batherson's skill limitations render him unsuitable for long-term top-6 forward duty on a better roster. Competitive teams rarely have more than one players with significant deficiency among the top-6 forwards. While Batherson's offense and skating have both improved, his comical footwork will limit his role as a top 6 forward.

The deal will look fine if Dorion cannot acquire more suitable players. However, if he is more appropriately placed on a third line, or his skating stagnates requiring demotion to the fourth, then this contract will be problematic.
- Jackie Daytona

Is there a point to be made?

This needs to be said about Bruce Garrioch. I can’t sit by and watch a respected beat writer for PostMedia, be allowed to get away with this. I can’t be quiet on something so deliberate. A reader on here, “cross side” I believe posted a comment that made me go and look to see what he said was true. I looked it up Saturday night and thought I will wait to post this, they say don’t post something in anger, sit on it, then after you sit on it if you still feel the same way, post it. After looking into it, this is as close to plagiarism as I have seen in sports coverage in quite some time. In fact, Garrioch’s sports editor needs to be alerted about this. Whoever his editor is. The entire article is about Logan Brown with too much of the same information.

Your Sens blogger posted that Logan Brown could possibly be traded this weekend at 2am Sept 4th. Around 1pm, 11 hours later, Bruce Garrioch writes a column stating far too much of the same information that Kevin posted here on Hockeybuzz but gives it the Garrioch spin in a few different words.

If a Hockeybuzz blogger had done the same thing, every Sens fan would be screaming that he copied Bruce’s info then posted it as his own. Yelling for him to be fired. Far too many hockey fans like to rag about Hockeybuzz and such but I guess it’s ok to do as you want because you write for a newspaper publication. But why is a long time sports writer allowed to do it? I say it’s a double standard that needs to change and Bruce should be ashamed to pull this kind of stunt.

You be the judge. Bruce just happens to mention the same teams that the Sens blogger posted, who are interested in Logan Brown while saying he could be traded. No way that this is a coincidence. In fact this type of behaviour should tarnish the image of Bruce Garrioch. More of these so called professional sports writers should be taken to task with this kind of garbage, but they aren’t. Why? Are they protected?

Out here on the west coast I know if any Vancouver sports writer or Canucks blogger for that matter, did the same type of thing, it would be a full blown kangaroo court scenario.

Take a look at the link below and you tell me if I am off base? Why doesn’t Bruce say, give reference to where he saw which teams were interested in Logan Brown? Instead he claims it as his own work.

https://www.yardbarker.co...omments/s1_16454_35784212
- PuckPix

Bruce Garrioch is not only a terrible writer and corporate shill mouthpiece, he’s been doing this for years all the way back to when he was only with the Ottawa Sun.

He would rip content from other Postmedia authors and hockeytraderumours.com. Kevin isn’t the first person he did this to and won’t be the last. The only defence he could potentially use here is if he and Kevin have the same source telling them the same things and he is just later to publish, but the track record is there.

The guy has been and always will be a weasel and has worked for 15+ years in the city without ever breaking a significant story. His bow tie wearing, popcorn and chilli dog scarfing and non-photogenic persona and body language all reflect the worst aspects of professional journalism and he is only still there because he writes/plagiarizes verbatim exactly what the Sens PR department and/or Melnyk wants him to say.

He has been a cancer on this city and team for two decades and needs to move on to retirement or another beat but he can’t, because the newsroom he moved to will see right through his bs. I look forward to any and all future takedown pieces you do, as he is the the worst elements of the baby boomer generation all wrapped together in a plump little bowtied package.

Bruce Garrioch is not only a terrible writer and corporate shill mouthpiece, he’s been doing this for years all the way back to when he was only with the Ottawa Sun.

He would rip content from other Postmedia authors and hockeytraderumours.com. Kevin isn’t the first person he did this to and won’t be the last. The only defence he could potentially use here is if he and Kevin have the same source telling them the same things and he is just later to publish, but the track record is there.

The guy has been and always will be a weasel and has worked for 15+ years in the city without ever breaking a significant story. His bow tie wearing, popcorn and chilli dog scarfing and non-photogenic persona and body language all reflect the worst aspects of professional journalism and he is only still there because he writes/plagiarizes verbatim exactly what the Sens PR department and/or Melnyk wants him to say.

He has been a cancer on this city and team for two decades and needs to move on to retirement or another beat but he can’t, because the newsroom he moved to will see right through his bs. I look forward to any and all future takedown pieces you do, as he is the the worst elements of the baby boomer generation all wrapped together in a plump little bowtied package.
- ahjnkn

For years i have thought that many different local sports media people were poaching ideas,thoughts from posts here. A topic or original insight brought up here
could be heard the next day somewhere else.
To be fair there is only so many angles to look at sports, so how original can 1 be? And they have hours to fill so its very possible they have the same ideas eventually. The difference being they get paid for their "insightfull thoughts"
However if there is plagiarism of proprietary inside info that is a new dirty ballgame.That if 1 wished to pursue legally they probably could. Best to avoid slanderous derogatory comments if a legal path is being thought of .

For years i have thought that many different local sports media people were poaching ideas,thoughts from posts here. A topic or original insight brought up here
could be heard the next day somewhere else.
To be fair there is only so many angles to look at sports, so how original can 1 be? And they have hours to fill so its very possible they have the same ideas eventually. The difference being they get paid for their "insightfull thoughts"
However if there is plagiarism of proprietary inside info that is a new dirty ballgame.That if 1 wished to pursue legally they probably could. Best to avoid slanderous derogatory comments if a legal path is being thought of .
- spazzbot

Ok, what’s my name/address?

For years i have thought that many different local sports media people were poaching ideas,thoughts from posts here. A topic or original insight brought up here
could be heard the next day somewhere else.
To be fair there is only so many angles to look at sports, so how original can 1 be? And they have hours to fill so its very possible they have the same ideas eventually. The difference being they get paid for their "insightfull thoughts"
However if there is plagiarism of proprietary inside info that is a new dirty ballgame.That if 1 wished to pursue legally they probably could. Best to avoid slanderous derogatory comments if a legal path is being thought of .
- spazzbot

Ok, what’s my name/address?

Ok, what’s my name/address?
- ahjnkn

Alec Jenkin in Ottawa?

Alec Jenkin in Ottawa?
- HoweHatrick

wow

wow
- forbetterorWORSE

That took about 5 seconds to come up with and there was much more detail available on this fellow including his work history and education. A lawyer acting for Mr. Garrioch would be a little more thorough and certainly more problematic.

Libel on the internet is a very real and serious topic.

That took about 5 seconds to come up with and there was much more detail available on this fellow including his work history and education. A lawyer acting for Mr. Garrioch would be a little more thorough and certainly more problematic.

Libel on the internet is a very real and serious topic.
- HoweHatrick

Best advice I ever received was to remember that what is said on the internet is there forever.

What was the subject again?

Alec Jenkin in Ottawa?
- HoweHatrick

Nope. Guess again.

Why are folks wasting everyone else's time talking about Garrioch.

Nope. Guess again.
- ahjnkn

You were extremely easy to find.

You were extremely easy to find.
- HoweHatrick

And you were extremely wrong in your answer :D

The email linked to this account is not mine originally.

And you were extremely wrong in your answer :D

The email linked to this account is not mine originally.
- ahjnkn

I found you without your email. You can say otherwise but you virtually guaranteed being found online by using those particular letters more than once.

While Dvorak in montreal is an overpayment (IMO), it certainly looks like they improved their center position t least for next season.

That's a team Ottawa may be fighting with for one of the lower playoff positions if they take the step forward were hooping for.

What is Dorion looking for in a L. Brown trade. He was continually sent down to Bville where he played most of his pro career so that makes him a minor leaguer. To me that should be an easy trade to make. It's not Brown that demoted himself to Bville it's the coaching staff and if he has a low value it's on them. It's obvious that he has no future with the team so not signing and requesting a trade should have been anticipated. Enough with the blame game and compromises and trade him.

What is Dorion looking for in a L. Brown trade. He was continually sent down to Bville where he played most of his pro career so that makes him a minor leaguer. To me that should be an easy trade to make. It's not Brown that demoted himself to Bville it's the coaching staff and if he has a low value it's on them. It's obvious that he has no future with the team so not signing and requesting a trade should have been anticipated. Enough with the blame game and compromises and trade him.
- granpa

Some team would 100% be willing to take a gamble on Brown. It's getting some level of "fair" value for him.

Any prospects out there that need a change in scenery that are in a similar position?

Some team would 100% be willing to take a gamble on Brown. It's getting some level of "fair" value for him.

Any prospects out there that need a change in scenery that are in a similar position?
- david22

Just to set the record straight. I happen to think that L. Brown will be an excellent NHL player whether it's at C or W. Brown had nothing to do with his value being so low. That's on the Sens.

What is Dorion looking for in a L. Brown trade. He was continually sent down to Bville where he played most of his pro career so that makes him a minor leaguer. To me that should be an easy trade to make. It's not Brown that demoted himself to Bville it's the coaching staff and if he has a low value it's on them. It's obvious that he has no future with the team so not signing and requesting a trade should have been anticipated. Enough with the blame game and compromises and trade him.
- granpa

Ottawa missed their chance to trade L. Brown the moment the 2020 draft started. A prospect only has so much stock without regular NHL playing time. At a certain point, that stock plunges. There are players from the 2016 draft that have already made names for themselves are are key contributors to their teams. Since it might be unfair to list guys taken ahead of L. Brown, guys after him in that draft who are now NHL regulars include, McAvoy, Debrincat, Chychurn, Girard, Fox, to name a few.

While injuries have not helped his career so far, his actual play has left many wanting more. The skill is there but there is just a competitive element piece missing.

A change of scenery is a must, but if Dorion expects a return of what he could of had a year or 2 ago, he is seriously mistaken.

Ottawa missed their chance to trade L. Brown the moment the 2020 draft started. A prospect only has so much stock without regular NHL playing time. At a certain point, that stock plunges. There are players from the 2016 draft that have already made names for themselves are are key contributors to their teams. Since it might be unfair to list guys taken ahead of L. Brown, guys after him in that draft who are now NHL regulars include, McAvoy, Debrincat, Chychurn, Girard, Fox, to name a few.

While injuries have not helped his career so far, his actual play has left many wanting more. The skill is there but there is just a competitive element piece missing.

A change of scenery is a must, but if Dorion expects a return of what he could of had a year or 2 ago, he is seriously mistaken.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Absolutely.

On other Drake contract…. It continues a recent trend of a back-ended contract with mid range term. I wonder if the reasons for this are not right in front of us. In 2019, the owner pledged to spend to the cap and “unparalleled success in 2021-25”. That is a five year stretch. The optimists among us tried to extract good news from that— the owner seeing light at the end of a very dark and difficult tearing down. The thing is, he said five years. Why not eight years since all of the great young prospects would be on that time frame. Then when the guy who is somehow a GM in the NHL spills the beans on the Drake contract. Paraphrasing… he says he believes the team had just bought the best hockey of Drake’s career. I get not wanting to give out retirement contracts.. but Dorion’s usual ham-fisted communications clearly shows that they will get the best years of Drake’s career that the team can afford. In other words, the five year period of unparalleled success is just that, five years. It would probably be fair to assume that few, if any (there is a cap floor) of the current crop of youngsters will finish their careers in a Sens uniform. You can make a case for that from a business perspective. But typical to the Sens, they think they are smarter than any fan. I have found that the best way to tolerate the owner and GM is to keep reminding myself that neither is actually very smart. If we pay attention, the GM who is without a filter will tell us everything

Zac Sanford for Logan brown

Zac Sanford for Logan brown
- BlueTaco

Robert Thomas for L. Brown +... Tkachuk & Thomas family very close... could help with contract negotiations

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It can't be easy for Logan Brown, staring at the business end of a 6th training camp since his draft day. But I think he's wrong if he believes another organization might represent a faster, easier path to the NHL. Opportunity still knocks loudly in Ottawa.