LAHawk
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You're right, they also supposedly wrote a positive reference letter. - BetweenTheDots
That is why the head of human resources at the time is no longer with the team. And Jay Blunk also, he was #2 to McDonough and a McDonough loyalist. Guess he was tasked with handling it. |
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A couple of blogs ago there was discussion of the number of home grown players on the Hawks roster. Here's a breakdown by % for the whole league from a tweet by @NHL Watcher:
Percentage of draft players per team’s current rosters from CapFriendly.
NJ: 55%
PHI: 55%
WPG: 52%
TB: 50%
ANA: 50%
NYI: 48%
CBJ: 48%
STL: 46%
BOS: 44%
LA: 44%
CGY: 41%
SJ: 41%
EDM: 40%
DAL: 38%
BUF: 36%
TOR: 35%
OTT: 33%
PIT: 33%
WSH: 33%
VAN: 33%
NYR: 32%
NSH: 32%
MIN: 29%
FLA: 28%
MTL: 27%
DET: 27%
COL: 27%
CAR: 26%
CHI: 21%
ARI: 18%
VGK: 5%
SEA: 0% |
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mike7076
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 11.11.2018
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A couple of blogs there was discussion of the number of home grown players on the Hawks roster. Here's a breakdown by % for the whole league from a tweet by @NHL Watcher:
Percentage of draft players per team’s current rosters from CapFriendly.
NJ: 55%
PHI: 55%
WPG: 52%
TB: 50%
ANA: 50%
NYI: 48%
CBJ: 48%
STL: 46%
BOS: 44%
LA: 44%
CGY: 41%
SJ: 41%
EDM: 40%
DAL: 38%
BUF: 36%
TOR: 35%
OTT: 33%
PIT: 33%
WSH: 33%
VAN: 33%
NYR: 32%
NSH: 32%
MIN: 29%
FLA: 28%
MTL: 27%
DET: 27%
COL: 27%
CAR: 26%
CHI: 21%
ARI: 18%
VGK: 5%
SEA: 0% - boilermaker100
That’s a bit surprising…..
Wonder what the percentage of the 2010 team was….
Exhale…..
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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A couple of blogs there was discussion of the number of home grown players on the Hawks roster. Here's a breakdown by % for the whole league from a tweet by @NHL Watcher:
Percentage of draft players per team’s current rosters from CapFriendly.
NJ: 55%
PHI: 55%
WPG: 52%
TB: 50%
ANA: 50%
NYI: 48%
CBJ: 48%
STL: 46%
BOS: 44%
LA: 44%
CGY: 41%
SJ: 41%
EDM: 40%
DAL: 38%
BUF: 36%
TOR: 35%
OTT: 33%
PIT: 33%
WSH: 33%
VAN: 33%
NYR: 32%
NSH: 32%
MIN: 29%
FLA: 28%
MTL: 27%
DET: 27%
COL: 27%
CAR: 26%
CHI: 21%
ARI: 18%
VGK: 5%
SEA: 0% - boilermaker100
At least the Hawks have more home grown talent than Seattle. #silverlinings |
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That is why the head of human resources at the time is no longer with the team. And Jay Blunk also, he was #2 to McDonough and a McDonough loyalist. Guess he was tasked with handling it. - LAHawk
11 years to late, so they endorsed it until it became public. Like buying car insurance after you got into the accident, it's all a show |
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I can't find where they will say what games will be on what station though so its 7 bucks for what - one game a week? 3 games per week? The only predictable and cost effective service is some shady internet stream right now. - fattybeef
Agree that ESPN+ and all the other new outlets TBS, TNT, ABC, ESPN have not published a list of games they are broadcasting. Piss poor way of doing business. What are they going to do, pick and choose at the season progresses?
The ESPN+ $7 monthly fee is for 75 "exclusive" games (about 3 per week) and over 1000 streamed games. I assume the exclusive games will not be broadcast over any of the other platforms.
So if there are 1312 regular season games played in the season. ESPN+ will stream around 1100 with most of the others on Turner and ESPN.
I haven't "cut the cord" and not into streaming like many others. If you already pay for cable or satellite, invest the 60 bucks for CenterIce package. I have done that and have accepted the fact that I'll miss those 75 games on ESPN+. |
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At least the Hawks have more home grown talent than Seattle. #silverlinings - DarthKane
Carolina and Colorado just a few % points higher than the Hawks. That equates to probably only one or two players. That's surprising to me.
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LAHawk
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11 years to late, so they endorsed it until it became public. Like buying car insurance after you got into the accident, it's all a show - BetweenTheDots
So you think Rocky knew about it when it happened? That McDonough told Rocky, and Rocky did nothing? Or do you think MDonough just handled it on his own as President of the Company?
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So you think Rocky knew about it when it happened? That McDonough told Rocky, and Rocky did nothing? Or do you think MDonough just handled it on his own as President of the Company? - LAHawk
Yep, unfortunately he went along with the plan. |
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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016
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That is why the head of human resources at the time is no longer with the team. And Jay Blunk also, he was #2 to McDonough and a McDonough loyalist. Guess he was tasked with handling it. - LAHawk
This kind of thing happens in all companies it's the way of the world and screwed up human beings. That the Blackhawks are a small company in the public eye it gets magnified. There are clear laws how to proceed. It's a non event in day to day operations. The Hawks clearly know how much Stan was involved in this by now it's not rocket science and Stan would have been fired by now were he culpable. That aside, his ND MBA among other training at his level taught him how to deal in such instances and I highly doubt he would have been stupid enough to help promulgate a cover up.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming this subject needs to disappear. |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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A couple of blogs ago there was discussion of the number of home grown players on the Hawks roster. Here's a breakdown by % for the whole league from a tweet by @NHL Watcher:
Percentage of draft players per team’s current rosters from CapFriendly.
NJ: 55%
PHI: 55%
WPG: 52%
TB: 50%
ANA: 50%
NYI: 48%
CBJ: 48%
STL: 46%
BOS: 44%
LA: 44%
CGY: 41%
SJ: 41%
EDM: 40%
DAL: 38%
BUF: 36%
TOR: 35%
OTT: 33%
PIT: 33%
WSH: 33%
VAN: 33%
NYR: 32%
NSH: 32%
MIN: 29%
FLA: 28%
MTL: 27%
DET: 27%
COL: 27%
CAR: 26%
CHI: 21%
ARI: 18%
VGK: 5%
SEA: 0% - boilermaker100
not a surprise to me....
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This kind of thing happens in all companies it's the way of the world and screwed up human beings. That the Blackhawks are a small company in the public eye it gets magnified. There are clear laws how to proceed. It's a non event in day to day operations. The Hawks clearly know how much Stan was involved in this by now it's not rocket science and Stan would have been fired by now were he culpable. That aside, his ND MBA among other training at his level taught him how to deal in such instances and I highly doubt he would have been stupid enough to help promulgate a cover up.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming this subject needs to disappear. - rpeters01
There's nothing wrong about discussing something that allegedly happened. The worst part is not talking about it. |
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GPHawksfan
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Location: AB Joined: 01.26.2018
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Towes plays 65 to 70 games retires after the season unofficially and put on LTRI next year
Dach has a breakout season
Hagel takes the role of Shaw
Jones surprisingly regains is form from two years due to playing with likes of dcat kane towes dach.
Strome and subban are traded together to buffalo or Ottawa for picks
Nylander finally realizes this is his last chance in the nhl and has a decent season overall.
Kubalik is traded at the tdl due to the are out of playoff pictures and cannot afford his next contract for a pick and high prospect.
Dcat scores 40 or more goals
The defense struggles again to JC unable to teach the defensive system.
Delia is dealt for late round pick
Reichel and borgstrom emerge as top 6 talent but not enough to save the season.
Johnson gets injured
Both Jc and bowman are fired JC for not being a good coach and being 500 by thanksgiving bowman due the finding of the investigation and hawks failing to make the playoffs again.
Kurashev and others are just ok.
Hawks don't get veinza winning fleruy but 37 old fleury lankinen gets better under the mentorship of fleury. Hawks finished 5 in the central but miss the playoffs by 8 pts. - Scott1977
Good god you're a moron |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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I am on record that this team should/better make the playoffs. I think this is lining up to be a 2008-09 with expectations and if this team starts slow.....JC will be gone, just like Savard was. Not in terms of a young team growing....but more a team built to win NOW. Right or wrong.
If the Hawks get a 2nd for Strome, the city of Chicago should erect a statue of Bowman that is 200 ft tall and made of solid gold. Only chance of getting close to that value IS a major injury to a team that needs a band aid OR Hawks retain a large chunk of said salary OR the Hawks flip him for another guy like Strome that the hawks hockey ops department has been oogling over since said player's draft class.
Toews...over.....hes rested, hes hungry, he's recharged.
kane....he will flourish with Toews back, and some depth and skill down the lineup so he's not anally probed every shift. Teams at LEAST have to respect some other lines.
Dach....big season for this kid. Not make or break, but we need to see more Edmonton bubble or this may become a colossal miss by Stan for where he was drafted. Can't miss on top 10 picks.
DeBrincat...if Dach comes to play and uses his size to park in front of the net, those cross ice lanes will be open for Kane to feed DeBrincat mattress passes all day long. 40+ goals
Kubalik....time to cash in.
Hagel....starts off slow trying to prove his new deal, settles in becomes a 15-20 g guy
Connolly/Carpenter....don't care. If I have to watch either and/or both, i hope it's for 5 minutes a night.
Kurashev....he and Johnson and Hagel could form a formidable 3rd line.
Johnson....not asked to tailor down his offense to win like in Tampa, over on 50 points
Borgstrom/Gaudette...need 1 to be a border line 3rd line player, if both hit....you can have a back up plan for injuries or pending UFAs.
Reichel...excited to see this kid for a cup of coffee...unless he shows he's ready. NO point rushing him.
Khaira..If I don't notice him, great.
Nylander....he needs to be a poor man's Versteeg.
DeHaan...if he plays 40+ games I'll be amazed.
C Jones....I hope the Hawks haven't privately guaranteed him a spot just because of his brother.....
Murphy....Not a huge fan, but he's growing on me. Took less to stay here, and hopefully he can take some big steps to suring up roles in the back end
McCabe....no idea what to expect...
Stillman....be an above average 3rd line pairing
Kalynuk...was extremely impressed by him last year...Expect another large step
S Jones....the most hated man on hockeybuzz....Shows us what elite skill for offense on the back end looks like, props up the PP, Kane setting this guy up for point shots gets me excited, and i think hes' off a sinking ship and will flourish much to the demise of the J fresh twitter clan.....
Fleury...this team can push it that much more knowing what they have in net. Will make up for a TON of mistakes that JC system reigns down in hell fire on any goalie in this "system". Think he's motivated to shove it up Vegas's @ss and be the starter for Team Canada?
lankinen...learns from 1 of the greats in the last 10+ years. What a mentor for this kid and hopefully Lankinen soaks up as much as he can, while he can
Hawks will battle for 3rd/4th....behind Colorado and Dallas....3 way battle for 3rd/4th between Winnipeg and STL....Hawks will sneak into 3rd and take Dallas down and get massacred in 5 by Colorado in round 2.
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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Good god you're a moron - GPHawksfan
each their own.....I can see the glass half empty crowd with this team.
I just expect 1 more push by Toews/kane like Detroit had in 2013 before they begin to realize, especially 19, that they are no longer THE GUYS and best chance to win on next deal would be a depth role......Kane, he's still producing at prime year levels.....hasn't showed much slowing down when he's not saddled with turds. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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There's nothing wrong about discussing something that allegedly happened. The worst part is not talking about it. - BetweenTheDots
Of course there’s something wrong with discussing a topic that is alleged and that is about sexual misconduct and where no one knows any of the facts. Discussing an alleged injury of a player is obviously acceptable. But how would BetweenTheDots feel regarding a discussion about his alleged sexual impropriety where the facts are muddled at best? |
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SteveRain
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Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL Joined: 05.07.2010
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Of course there’s something wrong with discussing a topic that is alleged and that is about sexual misconduct and where no one knows any of the facts. Discussing an alleged injury of a player is obviously acceptable. But how would BetweenTheDots feel regarding a discussion about his alleged sexual impropriety where the facts are muddled at best? - paulr
At this point...I would agree.
Staying clear of this incident until we hear back on the findings and what they say. Lots of media out there with preconceived agendas that is old and tiresome. Have stopped reading a few local and national guys for that reason.
This also holds true for the covid crap.....at this point, I really don't care. I am vaccinated. Each their own, just tired of the politicizing of it all. |
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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016
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I am on record that this team should/better make the playoffs. I think this is lining up to be a 2008-09 with expectations and if this team starts slow.....JC will be gone, just like Savard was. Not in terms of a young team growing....but more a team built to win NOW. Right or wrong.
This defense is a shadow of the cup defenses and the Forwards are few and far between compared to then as well. It's a team "built to be better than it has been the last few years."
If the Hawks get a 2nd for Strome, the city of Chicago should erect a statue of Bowman that is 200 ft tall and made of solid gold. Only chance of getting close to that value IS a major injury to a team that needs a band aid OR Hawks retain a large chunk of said salary OR the Hawks flip him for another guy like Strome that the hawks hockey ops department has been oogling over since said player's draft class.
Toews...over.....hes rested, hes hungry, he's recharged. And still sick.
kane....he will flourish with Toews back, and some depth and skill down the lineup so he's not anally probed every shift. Teams at LEAST have to respect some other lines.
Dach....big season for this kid. Not make or break, but we need to see more Edmonton bubble or this may become a colossal miss by Stan for where he was drafted. Can't miss on top 10 picks. See - Dylan Strome.
DeBrincat...if Dach comes to play and uses his size to park in front of the net, those cross ice lanes will be open for Kane to feed DeBrincat mattress passes all day long. 40+ goals
Kubalik....time to cash in. ? Not sure what this means...
Hagel....starts off slow trying to prove his new deal, settles in becomes a 15-20 g guy Gets his head bashed in and becomes Carcillo.
Connolly/Carpenter....don't care. If I have to watch either and/or both, i hope it's for 5 minutes a night. I hope Carpenter is gone I know what bad penalty killing looks like.
Kurashev....he and Johnson and Hagel could form a formidable 3rd line. So you have Kubalik playing 4th line?
Johnson....not asked to tailor down his offense to win like in Tampa, over on 50 points But Hawks are ok with losing?
Borgstrom/Gaudette...need 1 to be a border line 3rd line player, if both hit....you can have a back up plan for injuries or pending UFAs. Need to be better than "Borderline."
Reichel...excited to see this kid for a cup of coffee...unless he shows he's ready. NO point rushing him. I wouldn't rush him either 10 games and he's back in Rockroach.
Khaira..If I don't notice him, great.
Nylander....he needs to be a poor man's Versteeg. He's nothing close to Versteeg he's a long strider Versteeg was 2" shorter and shifty.
DeHaan...if he plays 40+ games I'll be amazed. Between now and the end of his career?
C Jones....I hope the Hawks haven't privately guaranteed him a spot just because of his brother..... No, they've obviously publicly done it.
Murphy....Not a huge fan, but he's growing on me. Took less to stay here, and hopefully he can take some big steps to suring (shoring) up roles in the back end His Hawks career will be longer than #4's.
McCabe....no idea what to expect...
Stillman....be an above average 3rd line pairing Be better than big Z.
Kalynuk...was extremely impressed by him last year...Expect another large step The other players made him look good.
S Jones....the most hated man on hockeybuzz....Shows us what elite skill for offense on the back end looks like, props up the PP, Kane setting this guy up for point shots gets me excited, and i think hes' off a sinking ship and will flourish much to the demise of the J fresh twitter clan.....
Fleury...this team can push it that much more knowing what they have in net. Will make up for a TON of mistakes that JC system reigns down in hell fire on any goalie in this "system". Think he's motivated to shove it up Vegas's @ss and be the starter for Team Canada? JC's system works well for Carolina's suck ass goalies. Hawks should have 82 shutouts.
lankinen...learns from 1 of the greats in the last 10+ years. What a mentor for this kid and hopefully Lankinen soaks up as much as he can, while he can Mentor is over rated Lankenin will be what he is.
Hawks will battle for 3rd/4th....behind Colorado and Dallas....3 way battle for 3rd/4th between Winnipeg and STL....Hawks will sneak into 3rd and take Dallas down and get massacred in 5 by Colorado in round 2. - SteveRain |
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Why is it guys with known injuries from the previous season, Crosby, Eichel etc. Wait until a few weeks before training camp to get surgery? It seems to happen all the time. Why not get the surgery when the season has ended? - paulr
The Eichel thing was complicated as he wanted an operation that wouldn't get approved because they wanted to treat conservatively and then do the disk fusion which he didn't want.
Other stuff - depending on the severity of the injury - most surgeons will try to treat conservatively. A knee being a relatively uncomplicated joint is pretty easy to operate on. Something like a wrist, shoulder, hip or even neck that supports multiple planes of movement with a complex surrounding structure can be more problematic, and while maybe faster at relieving pain, there could be a reduction in range of motion and strength (maybe permanent maybe temporary maybe 4 months maybe 2 years) depending on how the individual reacts to the operation. |
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If Toews plays only 35 games and retires highly doubt Blackhawks make the playoffs - BetweenTheDots
He'll come in after the TDL to give them a last push.
Plus, even without him and the injection of NHL calibre talent this summer - finishing worse than 8th is pretty inconceivable.
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ToewsdNKanefusd
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Location: Hampshire, IL Joined: 05.14.2015
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There's nothing wrong about discussing something that allegedly happened. The worst part is not talking about it. - BetweenTheDots
The worst part is talking about something that you know nothing about. No one here knows what happened, so we are all speculating and creating rumors that don't need to be out there. |
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Of course there’s something wrong with discussing a topic that is alleged and that is about sexual misconduct and where no one knows any of the facts. Discussing an alleged injury of a player is obviously acceptable. But how would BetweenTheDots feel regarding a discussion about his alleged sexual impropriety where the facts are muddled at best? - paulr
I wouldn't be happy about it but then again I'm not the one being taken to court for it, changing office personnel and having players former and present admitting to hearing about it back in 2010.
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The worst part is talking about something that you know nothing about. No one here knows what happened, so we are all speculating and creating rumors that don't need to be out there. - ToewsdNKanefusd
Actually the worst part would be the victim in all this, if most of this is true.
I understand it's a difficult subject |
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Backes to sign a one day contract with the Blues so he can retire as one. Think Keith and Seabs will be invited to the festivities? |
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TheTrob
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Location: Oak Park, IL Joined: 04.14.2010
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This kind of thing happens in all companies it's the way of the world and screwed up human beings. That the Blackhawks are a small company in the public eye it gets magnified. There are clear laws how to proceed. It's a non event in day to day operations. The Hawks clearly know how much Stan was involved in this by now it's not rocket science and Stan would have been fired by now were he culpable. That aside, his ND MBA among other training at his level taught him how to deal in such instances and I highly doubt he would have been stupid enough to help promulgate a cover up.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming this subject needs to disappear. - rpeters01
Stan was the GM. You have a CEO, President, Head of HR, and a whole bunch of other people would be responsible before Stan. I'm not saying he should bury his head in the sand and ignore everything that happens, but if your boss, your bosses boss, etc. (including HR) all know about it and chose the path they did, then you can hate Stan all you want for his drafts, trades, hires, etc., but this one isn't on him.
At the time, Hawks removed the offender. It wasn't their responsibility to press charges or anything else, that's the responsibility of the victim(s). Could they have gone to the Police?, maybe. As they stated in one of their releases on the matter, the victim was not a minor or disabled so it was not their duty to do so. Going to the police at the time could also open them up to litigation from Aldrich, if investigation proved the accusations un-true. In regards to providing a reference, legally, all they can do is confirm employment. Multiple sources have said that they never provided a letter of recommendation. The place Aldrich was hired said they never even asked for one. Yeah, as an organization this doesn't look great, yeah in hindsight it's easy to say what "should" have been done. In all probability, this was another McDonaugh production on maintaining the reputation of the club, and while maybe morally wrong, was legally ok. |
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