Marner signed for 6 years.

Sure, one more than Matthews, but definitely not 8.

Edit: and Matthews going to UFA as soon as possible would have been a 4 year contract, not 5.
- Leafs43

well this is embarrassing

If you factor in that he's already received his 2021-22 signing bonus, he's owed an average of just less than $5M per year for the remaining five years of his contract.

Yeah, bad cap hit, but you could easily find a team that would take his contract. The Leafs would not have to retain a cent.

Edit: I divided his total money left by 5 - should have divided by 4.

Math is hard.
- Atomic Wedgie

So is looking up contracts on capfriendly apparently

So is looking up contracts on capfriendly apparently
- Aetherial

if it makes you feel any better I had how they got paid backwards

I told you people this stuff 5 hours ago. You can believe me. I wouldn't lie to you guys!
- Monkeypunk

I’m openly admitting I was wrong, my mistake taking the time to research it myself, should have just listened to you and others. My apologies.

if it makes you feel any better I had how they got paid backwards
- Dozzer

Pythagorean has Jays and Rays tied at 88-55.

Jays have been averaging 7.5 runs in their last 16 outings.

What does this all mean? Despite being (frank)ing amazing the Jays are absolutely going to miss the playoffs because being a Toronto fan is pain incarnate.

Pythagorean has Jays and Rays tied at 88-55.

Jays have been averaging 7.5 runs in their last 16 outings.

What does this all mean? Despite being (frank)ing amazing the Jays are absolutely going to miss the playoffs because being a Toronto fan is pain incarnate.
- mjones242

You should definitely stop watching sports

Jays are rolling again
- bryant

They will bring the stanley cup back home

So is looking up contracts on capfriendly apparently
- Aetherial

Capfriendly and Leafs is exclusive OR anyways.

They will bring the stanley cup back home
- Fakepartofme

Well they are going to Tampa on Monday.

Pythagorean has Jays and Rays tied at 88-55.

Jays have been averaging 7.5 runs in their last 16 outings.

What does this all mean? Despite being (frank)ing amazing the Jays are absolutely going to miss the playoffs because being a Toronto fan is pain incarnate.
- mjones242

is this real life?
Jays at 73% to make the playoffs per FG (was as low as 5%) or 82% per BR

Hope another big game from Berrios. Keep it rollin

is this real life?
Jays at 73% to make the playoffs per FG (was as low as 5%) or 82% per BR

Hope another big game from Berrios. Keep it rollin
- senstroll

https://www.mlb.com/video...-line-drive-to-left-field

My biggest issue with Dubas is his unwillingness to adjust as circumstances change. Yes, he assumed a rising cap when he put this salary structure in place. However, it has been clear for almost 2 years now that the salary cap will be flat for some time due to the pandemic.

Yet Dubas has remained unwilling to alter his salary cap structure despite the flat cap. Consequently he has simply been unable to build a balanced roster with 4 forwards making 40 M. Again this summer, its a bunch of guys out,some guys in. We might have even got weaker in the process. The hope, or expectation is that if 4 guys perform in the playoffs, the Leafs will succeed. That is a ridiculous plan. 4 guys are not going to get it done.

TEAMS win Cups.
- fifty__missions

I don't disagree but apparently he just admitted on McCown's radio show that he was listening to offers on the "Core" this summer. Didn't feel like it made them better but is/was willing to move one of them.

My biggest hindsight complaint is that he hasn't locked anybody up in advance of a big season. Not liking their demands one summer has lead to a more expensive cost the following summer. It takes two to tango but, in hindsight, it's cost more to wait.

I don't disagree but apparently he just admitted on McCown's radio show that he was listening to offers on the "Core" this summer. Didn't feel like it made them better but is/was willing to move one of them.

My biggest hindsight complaint is that he hasn't locked anybody up in advance of a big season. Not liking their demands one summer has lead to a more expensive cost the following summer. It takes two to tango but, in hindsight, it's cost more to wait.
- The Law

Realistically, who is there to lock up? He’s been negotiating with Rielly but I don’t see the numbers working. He’s not going to waste time on Mik and my guess is that they’re planning on keeping one of the two goalies so it’s early on Jack. Even if they plan on keeping both I wouldn’t want to make a long term decision based on 29 games.

is this real life?
Jays at 73% to make the playoffs per FG (was as low as 5%) or 82% per BR

Hope another big game from Berrios. Keep it rollin
- senstroll

I will piss myself laugh crying if they make it to 95%+ odds to make the playoffs and then poop the bed like the Leafs did.

Of course I'd rather they just make the playoffs.

is this real life?
Jays at 73% to make the playoffs per FG (was as low as 5%) or 82% per BR

Hope another big game from Berrios. Keep it rollin
- senstroll

...its not fantasy and you are not caught in a landslide

...its not fantasy and you are not caught in a landslide
- Fakepartofme

LOLOL, beat me to it..


No escape from reality.

LOLOL, beat me to it..


No escape from reality.
- bixll

LOL

Still such a kick ass song.

...well IMO.

LOL

Still such a kick @ss song.

...well IMO.
- Fakepartofme

Wayne and Garth and buddies in the car head banging to the Jays game on the radio

LOL

Still such a kick @ss song.

...well IMO.
- Fakepartofme

So many Queen classics.

https://www.mlb.com/video/vladimir-guerrero-homers-45-on-a-line-drive-to-left-field
- winsix

Go Vlad!

So many Queen classics.
- bixll

Oh ya.
So many.

My biggest issue with Dubas is his unwillingness to adjust as circumstances change. Yes, he assumed a rising cap when he put this salary structure in place. However, it has been clear for almost 2 years now that the salary cap will be flat for some time due to the pandemic.

Yet Dubas has remained unwilling to alter his salary cap structure despite the flat cap. Consequently he has simply been unable to build a balanced roster with 4 forwards making 40 M. Again this summer, its a bunch of guys out,some guys in. We might have even got weaker in the process. The hope, or expectation is that if 4 guys perform in the playoffs, the Leafs will succeed. That is a ridiculous plan. 4 guys are not going to get it done.

TEAMS win Cups.
- fifty__missions

Actually sick of hearing about the core four making $40M. Lets go over the contracts specifically. JT - a great signing that at least three other good teams would have gladly made at the time. Is he overpaid? Perhaps a little, the last year of that contract may be an overpay, but he could have signed for more elsewhere. At the time of signing, nobody expected the cap to remain static so in all - an excellent signing. Nylander - Leafs played hardball and he signed a fair deal for the team and for the player. Matthews, easy negotiation, term is more the issue than the amount, Leafs could have asked for one more year. Leafs overconfidence in re-signing Matthews was a mistake IMO but the amount of the deal is totally acceptable. Marner - IMO is an overpay. How much of an overpay? About $1 to $1.5 Million. The bottom line is these four players are in productive years and would be top players on any team.The challenge is building the rest of a great lineup with the remaing $40M in cap space. It can be done, the problem is not the core. The power play should be among the best in the league, it hasn't been (lousy planning and coaching IMO) Penalty killing same thing. There are a few teams that have more talent on better deals - Colorado and Tampa come to mind, but the bottom line is this team is fortunate to have the top end talent that has been absent on this team for decades. Time for the supporting staff to deliver.

Oh ya.
So many.
- Fakepartofme

Fat Bottomed Girls was always one of my favorites

Realistically, who is there to lock up? He’s been negotiating with Rielly but I don’t see the numbers working. He’s not going to waste time on Mik and my guess is that they’re planning on keeping one of the two goalies so it’s early on Jack. Even if they plan on keeping both I wouldn’t want to make a long term decision based on 29 games.
- Canada Cup

I think the idea was that had he approached Matthews, Marner, Nylander or Hyman prior to the season, he may have been able to get a better deal. In each case they all came out and had seasons that improved their negotiating power. I don't know who was and wasn't willing to negotiate early; if I recall, Marner was willing prior to the start of the season, but not once the season started. These kids are all young and approaching their prime, so you can expect them to get better - it would have made more sense to sign a deal before the season gave them more leverage.

Maybe most of these guys didn't want to negotiate early, but that seems unlikely given how many other players around the league have been willing to do so.

One piece of advice that Lou gave Kyle was, "If you have time, use it." I think it's bad advice with regards to contract extensions, and I think it's bitten Kyle in the ass more than it's helped. Looking at Lou's negotiations with his players, it hasn't helped him very often either. He doesn't have a history of mid-season extensions either (meaning he doesn't like to get ahead of contract negotiations).