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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 2:37 PM ET
If you want to strip down the heat of habaneros but keep the flavour, scrape the inside walls with a spoon until you've removed a solid mm of the inside of the pepper. And chuck the seeds obviously.

And yes, definitely wear gloves or you'll still burn your Richard off every time you take a leak a week later no matter how many times you've washed your hands.

My habaneros have had a rough ride this summer, I suspect it's mostly because we've been under smoke for what feels like a couple months in Alberta and the sun can't get to them. Same with all my sweet peppers and banana peppers. Oddly enough my jalapenos seem to be doing better than usual though. šŸ¤”

- joel878


Thanks ..good tip. I find jalapenos are like cockroaches ..they grow well/survive no matter how I mistreat them. I grow a ton of them b/c they're so easy (and b/c I'm a terrible gardener). Peppers love me but I kill everything else.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 13 @ 2:38 PM ET
The problem is Marner is paid at a level that demands a player step up come playoff time, not step back.

No one cares what he did in major junior. There's been many a player succeed in major junior who couldn't translate that to the NHL.

To that extent... I feel like when the going gets tough his instinct is to go back to what worked in junior. Him and the fans need to let go of junior hockey.

- joel878


He and Matthews did what worked all season - Richard Trophy and two All Star selections. They were convinced it was going to work. Once JT went down the options to mix up the lines became more limited.

They either need to play differently in the regular season or be split up. Iā€™m not opposed to seeing them split up.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
He and Matthews did what worked all season - Richard Trophy and two All Star selections. They were convinced it was going to work. Once JT went down the options to mix up the lines became more limited.

They either need to play differently in the regular season or be split up. Iā€™m not opposed to seeing them split up.

- Canada Cup



As much as Marner pissed me off. Muzzin going down, hurt the Leafs the most. JMO
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
He and Matthews did what worked all season - Richard Trophy and two All Star selections. They were convinced it was going to work. Once JT went down the options to mix up the lines became more limited.

They either need to play differently in the regular season or be split up. Iā€™m not opposed to seeing them split up.

- Canada Cup


I'm not either, they are both paid drive your own line money. If the PP can get sorted, they can still rack up points playing together there.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
53.5 is a very high number for over under, but Iā€™m pretty sure he scored 40 as a 19 year old with brown and hyman as his line mates.

Iā€™ll say over which is crazy

- bryant


i agree 53.5 is high, and I thought about it for a while and went back and forth between 51 and 55

trying to find a number that will split the responses...but I think at 53.5, most will go over

which is pretty wild
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
As much as Marner pissed me off. Muzzin going down, hurt the Leafs the most. JMO
- bixll


I think that's the biggest issue of sticking to Marner (or whichever one of the big salaries you see as the odd man out).

You're always going to be a key injury or two away from having massive gaps in the lineup, especially on the blueline where a key injury results in a second pairing of Dermott / Holl.

That's never going to cut it in the playoffs, and they've never even been able to even get through 5ish playoff games without being flung into that position.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 2:48 PM ET
He and Matthews did what worked all season - Richard Trophy and two All Star selections. They were convinced it was going to work. Once JT went down the options to mix up the lines became more limited.

They either need to play differently in the regular season or be split up. Iā€™m not opposed to seeing them split up.

- Canada Cup


And it wasn't like they were invisible. Those two combined for 54 shots and a lot of quality chances.

One (frank)ing goal on 54 shots ain't good enough.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 13 @ 2:51 PM ET
One of the worst things I've ever done in my life is definitely cutting up a poop load of habaneros, washing my hands thinking that was good... And then taking my contacts out.
- joel878



Seems to have effected your hockey vision still.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 13 @ 2:52 PM ET
I think that's the biggest issue of sticking to Marner (or whichever one of the big salaries you see as the odd man out).

You're always going to be a key injury or two away from having massive gaps in the lineup, especially on the blueline where a key injury results in a second pairing of Dermott / Holl.

That's never going to cut it in the playoffs, and they've never even been able to even get through 5ish playoff games without being flung into that position.

- joel878


Yup, it's the choice they've made at the cost of depth and goaltending.

Dubas, Shanny, MM, JT, and AM are all in this bed together.

Now get'er did!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
The problem is Marner is paid at a level that demands a player step up come playoff time, not step back.

No one cares what he did in major junior. There's been many a player succeed in major junior who couldn't translate that to the NHL.

To that extent... I feel like when the going gets tough his instinct is to go back to what worked in junior. Him and the fans need to let go of junior hockey.

- joel878


No, but to that extent how you feel doesn't mean jack squat when you know what he is capable of at all levels. He has gotten it done in the NHL. He has 5 goals and 20 assists in 32 games in the playoffs and is just 23 years old (turned 24 now). I'd like better production but he has had playoff rounds that have been productive. He has shown he can get it done. Giving up on a 23 year old who has been top-5 in league scoring because he had a bad playoff round is poor asset management and a move I believe we'd regret.

Patrick Kane at ages 22 and 23 had 1 goal in 13 playoff games. Chicago didn't trade him. Ovechkin had 2 points in 7 games when he was 26 and Washington kept him. Eichel has 0 playoff points in his career and Buffalo would like to keep him. Glib comparisons aside, a talent like Marner's deserves another chance. It is not on him alone that we failed.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 13 @ 2:54 PM ET
Seems to have effected your hockey vision still.


- Garnie


Haaaa, good one. šŸ¤£
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 13 @ 2:55 PM ET
Haaaa, good one. šŸ¤£
- joel878


šŸ¤£
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 13 @ 2:57 PM ET
reading the comments in the sportsnet section of a Luke fox article and people are saying Florida is wayyy better than Toronto.

people saying leafs have no depth etc

what am I missing?

their 3rd and 4th lines aren't much better than ours and our dmen look far superior...

confused.

not saying the leafs are the better team but I don't see what makes the panthers the hands down favorite
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
No, but to that extent how you feel doesn't mean jack squat when you know what he is capable of at all levels. He has gotten it done in the NHL. He has 5 goals and 20 assists in 32 games in the playoffs and is just 23 years old (turned 24 now). I'd like better production but he has had playoff rounds that have been productive. He has shown he can get it done. Giving up on a 23 year old who has been top-5 in league scoring because he had a bad playoff round is poor asset management and a move I believe we'd regret.

Patrick Kane at ages 22 and 23 had 1 goal in 13 playoff games. Chicago didn't trade him. Ovechkin had 2 points in 7 games when he was 26 and Washington kept him. Eichel has 0 playoff points in his career and Buffalo would like to keep him. Glib comparisons aside, a talent like Marner's deserves another chance. It is not on him alone that we failed.

- Monkeypunk


very well said.

look at Mackinnons first 4 years... hit 60 pts just once and missed playoffs 3 of 4 years..
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:00 PM ET
The athletics leaf fan survey bore some fruit.

"The next, somewhat related, question we asked was ā€œWho is your least favourite member of the team?ā€ I think we should probably reword this one in the future to be a little less harsh ā€¦ but, as it was, Marner received 35 percent of the votes cast. Twenty percent of voters chose ā€œnoneā€ or a similar non-answer, while Pierre Engvall (11 percent), Wayne Simmonds and Alexander Kerfoot (5 percent) all received a decent number of responses."

Apparently it's not just the few of us on here that aren't big on softie mccantplayoff.

Also, favourite leafs:

1 - Matthews
2 - Spezza.
Barely 3rd - Nylander.

šŸ‘€

- joel878

I knew someone would bite.

Meh, and before the lost to Montreal, he was probably top 3 favs. Its all about "what have you done for me lately".
With the recent signings of under 10m for top quality players, his meh play in the playoffs and the group of foolish who blame him for the playoff loss, the above isnt surprising.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:01 PM ET
The thing is that Leaf fans are all "what have you done for me lately?" fans. Marner has performed in the playoffs. Marner has won the Memorial Cup, the OHL Championship - and been the MVP of both; he has 25pts in 32 playoff games at the NHL level. Last year Marner had 4pts in 7 games - and he did have a few great looks, but Price made some great saves, including one 10-bell save. If Marner cashes on the one-timer; if Tavares is there and the Canadiens can't double down on defense against the Matthews-Marner pairing; if Keefe splits Matthews & Marner . . . any of those would drastically change the results of that poll.

COVID flattened the cap and now Marner is to blame in Toronto for everything that goes wrong. We spent the last 40 years lamenting our inability to draft home grown talent and when we do, everyone wants to run the kid out of town.

We lost to Montreal because of more than Mitch Marner.

- Monkeypunk

The above is so true.
But Marner GRRRRRR!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:02 PM ET
reading the comments in the sportsnet section of a Luke fox article and people are saying Florida is wayyy better than Toronto.

people saying leafs have no depth etc

what am I missing?

their 3rd and 4th lines aren't much better than ours and our dmen look far superior...

confused.

not saying the leafs are the better team but I don't see what makes the panthers the hands down favorite

- systemtool


Iā€™ve heard the same and wondered as well, i canā€™t seem to find the projected Florida lines yet tho, so you know where I can find those?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:04 PM ET
Please stop referencing sexual organs.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:05 PM ET
As much as Marner pissed me off. Muzzin going down, hurt the Leafs the most. JMO
- bixll

Yep and JT...and I say that being one of the most angry at soft little Mitchie Mitch.


As some of you point out, a couple of good plays and a body check or two next season, I will be happy like the rest....BUT, not completely happy until I see him nut up in the playoffs finally. Until then he deserves the ire of many.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 13 @ 3:05 PM ET
Iā€™ve heard the same and wondered as well, i canā€™t seem to find the projected Florida lines yet tho, so you know where I can find those?
- Dozzer

https://www.cbssports.com...ida-panthers/depth-chart/

I used this... CBS sports not the best but it's just their roster sorted by position.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 13 @ 3:06 PM ET
I knew someone would bite.

Meh, and before the lost to Montreal, he was probably top 3 favs. Its all about "what have you done for me lately".
With the recent signings of under 10m for top quality players, his meh play in the playoffs and the group of foolish who blame him for the playoff loss, the above isnt surprising.

- Fakepartofme


I can understand the recency bias angle, there's nothing wrong with that.

For me it's that my concerns with Marner started well before this season and his 67 point reg season didn't make me move off of them too much. Because there was still underlying factors that are concerning at his salary (looking at you full season without a PP goal).

The end result for me is that he's a good enough player, but his salary makes him the odd man out. Because I'm not dumping Matthews, you can't dump JT, and Nylander at his salary is a no brainer. If the fat has to be trimmed, he's the guy.

When push comes to shove I don't sympathize with Marner at that point, he fought tooth and nail for that salary. This is the result. He will still get his paycheque in another market.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:15 PM ET
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/teams/FLA/florida-panthers/depth-chart/

I used this... CBS sports not the best but it's just their roster sorted by position.

- systemtool


Thank you but are you sure itā€™s up to date?

I mean Thornton isnā€™t listed and he signed there.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since Iā€™m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:18 PM ET
I can understand the recency bias angle, there's nothing wrong with that.

For me it's that my concerns with Marner started well before this season and his 67 point reg season didn't make me move off of them too much. Because there was still underlying factors that are concerning at his salary (looking at you full season without a PP goal).

The end result for me is that he's a good enough player, but his salary makes him the odd man out. Because I'm not dumping Matthews, you can't dump JT, and Nylander at his salary is a no brainer. If the fat has to be trimmed, he's the guy.

When push comes to shove I don't sympathize with Marner at that point, he fought tooth and nail for that salary. This is the result. He will still get his paycheque in another market.

- joel878


Donā€™t be too sold on Matthews, Iā€™m convinced heā€™ll taper off a lot faster than Marner and Iā€™ll actually be shocked if heā€™s willing to sign in Toronto again.

He took a five year deal to become a UFA. Twist it all you want but this American doesnā€™t want to stay in Canada considering heā€™s from the southern west part of his country.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:19 PM ET
As much as Marner pissed me off. Muzzin going down, hurt the Leafs the most. JMO
- bixll

Losing Muzzin and JT would hurt a lot of teams chances.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 13 @ 3:22 PM ET
Donā€™t be too sold on Matthews, Iā€™m convinced heā€™ll taper off a lot faster than Marner and Iā€™ll actually be shocked if heā€™s willing to sign in Toronto again.

He took a five year deal to become a UFA. Twist it all you want but this American doesnā€™t want to stay in Canada considering heā€™s from the southern west part of his country.

- Dozzer

There simply is no proof of that at this moment.
He may end up going elsewhere, but nothing to suggest it will occur at this moment.

He's on sportsnet at 5pm if you want to hear how much he misses home and hates Canada.

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