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Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 2:11 PM ET
The Sabres made an awful pick with Quinn.

Quinn also could be pretty good

Both can be true

The defense of everything the Harbor Center GM has done is mind boggling.

We finished last and are trying to finish last again

- sbroads24


So even if he's good, it's a bad pick?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
So even if he's good, it's a bad pick?
- Hank Balling


yep because the other guys sposed to be betar. logiq

Gonna move on. Go Jack.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 2:19 PM ET
yep because the other guys sposed to be betar. logiq

Gonna move on. Go Jack.

- TheSabresTaco

but what if he ends up being better than all the people that were supposed to be picked before him.. is it still bad?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 2:26 PM ET
That's fine. Some will say he's poop simply because of his draft position, some will wait to see the results.
- TheSabresTaco

I hope the kid is great. I doubt he will be. I think he will be a decent middle six player.

There’s nothing wrong with a Drew Stafford career.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
So even if he's good, it's a bad pick?
- Hank Balling

The Penguins drafted Jordan Staal 2nd overall. Good player, bad pick as Jonathon Toews was the better prospect and turned out to be 2x the player
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
The Sabres made an awful pick with Quinn.

Quinn also could be pretty good

Both can be true

The defense of everything the Harbor Center GM has done is mind boggling.

We finished last and are trying to finish last again

- sbroads24


Teams reach every year. The difference here is, with the front office moves they made last summer, they lost any benefit of the doubt. Almost no one is confident in the guys making the decision.

The best defense of KA so far is that he may not have actually been in charge. It's a weak defense.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 2:31 PM ET
The Penguins drafted Jordan Staal 2nd overall. Good player, bad pick as Jonathon Toews was the better prospect and turned out to be 2x the player
- sbroads24


Fair enough. If Rossi is Toews and Quinn is Staal then it's a goof up
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
https://buffalonews.com/s...ec-ad5c-5f23160a20ef.html
Looking forward to seeing how that line plays together
Murray Quinn Peterka
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 2:57 PM ET
With all that being said -

I look forward to every time Quinn scores reading people on here post

“But I thought Quinn sucked” even though 0 people are saying he’s going to suck or be a complete bust
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
Not sure if someone’s mentioned this but wasn’t everyone pretty unanimously mad when the bills picked Josh, that seems to have worked out good.
Seems harsh to say the guys a terrible pick when he’s not played 1 nhl game yet.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 3:00 PM ET
Not sure if someone’s mentioned this but wasn’t everyone pretty unanimously mad when the bills picked Josh, that seems to have worked out good.
Seems harsh to say the guys a terrible pick when he’s not played 1 nhl game yet.

- Sabres1523

Not on this board!!
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:02 PM ET
Not sure if someone’s mentioned this but wasn’t everyone pretty unanimously mad when the bills picked Josh, that seems to have worked out good.
Seems harsh to say the guys a terrible pick when he’s not played 1 nhl game yet.

- Sabres1523



GMing is EZ.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
So even if he's good, it's a bad pick?
- Hank Balling


Sam Reinhart is a very good hockey player, top line talent but Leon was the right pick.

Mittelstadt looks like an NHL player but Martin Necas looks better.

List goes on and on.

Do I think Jack Quinn can be a 20+20 guy at the NHL level ? Yes I do.

Do I think though that Rossi, Lundell, and Perfetti can have a bigger impact on their teams performance though ? Yes I do.

Being happy about Jack Quinn being an NHL contributor with the players that were on the board at pick 8 is a low bar.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is a very good hockey player, top line talent but Leon was the right pick.

Mittelstadt looks like an NHL player but Martin Necas looks better.

List goes on and on.

Do I think Jack Quinn can be a 20+20 guy at the NHL level ? Yes I do.

Do I think though that Rossi, Lundell, and Perfetti can have a bigger impact on their teams performance though ? Yes I do.

Being happy about Jack Quinn being an NHL contributor with the players that were on the board at pick 8 is a low bar.

- Pegullaville


Yeah I hear ya.

I still think as long as you get a good, serviceable player, it's not a total failure. If Zegras ends up better than Cozens or Rossi ends up better than Quinn, that's not great but what really sucks is getting a dud like Nylander. Thankfully Botterill turned that into something good
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
Oh my goshh.... everyone and their mothers had Sam Bennet over Leon so just stop right there
- DirtyDan

This is just not true.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
This is just not true.
- sbroads24



Im not having this discussion AGAIN. so I deleted
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 16 @ 3:18 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is a very good hockey player, top line talent but Leon was the right pick.

Mittelstadt looks like an NHL player but Martin Necas looks better.

List goes on and on.

Do I think Jack Quinn can be a 20+20 guy at the NHL level ? Yes I do.

Do I think though that Rossi, Lundell, and Perfetti can have a bigger impact on their teams performance though ? Yes I do.

Being happy about Jack Quinn being an NHL contributor with the players that were on the board at pick 8 is a low bar.

- Pegullaville


I was hoping for Rossi at 8 tbh and I think it’s risky to bet on a 1 year performance, but I’d expect Quinn to be a 30 goal a year type player for where we picked him, and who he was taken before.

If he’s not I’d say that’s a fair assessment and we should have gone with a Rossi or lundell, but I’m willing to give him his chance to show he can be a better or equal player to those mentioned.

Time will tell
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:21 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is a very good hockey player, top line talent but Leon was the right pick.

Mittelstadt looks like an NHL player but Martin Necas looks better.

List goes on and on.

Do I think Jack Quinn can be a 20+20 guy at the NHL level ? Yes I do.

Do I think though that Rossi, Lundell, and Perfetti can have a bigger impact on their teams performance though ? Yes I do.

Being happy about Jack Quinn being an NHL contributor with the players that were on the board at pick 8 is a low bar.

- Pegullaville



GMing is EZ.

GMing in the hindsight? EZer.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 3:22 PM ET
Yeah I hear ya.

I still think as long as you get a good, serviceable player, it's not a total failure. If Zegras ends up better than Cozens or Rossi ends up better than Quinn, that's not great but what really sucks is getting a dud like Nylander. Thankfully Botterill turned that into something good

- Hank Balling

Every player develops differently, we won't now about who's better for a couple years.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
GMing is EZ.

GMing in the hindsight? EZiest.

- Powerslave


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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
https://youtu.be/FiLaLcB7SeM
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Sep 16 @ 3:24 PM ET
Not sure if someone’s mentioned this but wasn’t everyone pretty unanimously mad when the bills picked Josh, that seems to have worked out good.
Seems harsh to say the guys a terrible pick when he’s not played 1 nhl game yet.

- Sabres1523


I was one of them and I am not ashamed to admit it. 99.5% of the time that kind of pick goes exactly the way that people expect it to.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 3:27 PM ET
GMing is EZ.

GMing in the hindsight? EZer.

- Powerslave


There were a few people that wanted Leon over Reinhart before that draft.

Ditto Sergachev over Nylander.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yeah I hear ya.

I still think as long as you get a good, serviceable player, it's not a total failure. If Zegras ends up better than Cozens or Rossi ends up better than Quinn, that's not great but what really sucks is getting a dud like Nylander. Thankfully Botterill turned that into something good

- Hank Balling


That’s fair.

I also was in the Cozens > Zegras boat.

It’s a moot argument if the players are both 2nd line producers.

What I’m worried about is Quinn being a serviceable NHL’er and is leaving a potential high impact top 6 forward on the board.

That isn’t good, especially with the fact we now have a lack of Center’s in the pipeline (without seeing a Jack Eichel return)
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 3:37 PM ET
GMing is EZ.

GMing in the hindsight? EZer.

- Powerslave

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