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Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: 2014-15 Sabres vs. 2021-2022 Sabres (Pt. 1)
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DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 16 @ 3:43 PM ET
That’s fair.

I also was in the Cozens > Zegras boat.

It’s a moot argument if the players are both 2nd line producers.

What I’m worried about is Quinn being a serviceable NHL’er and is leaving a potential high impact top 6 forward on the board.

That isn’t good, especially with the fact we now have a lack of Center’s in the pipeline (without seeing a Jack Eichel return)

- Pegullaville


Before last draft we had a need for wingers... Now that jacks leaving its shifting back to C.

If Jack was staying we'd be lacking in top line winger talent.

Oh how things change in a years time.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 3:45 PM ET
That’s fair.

I also was in the Cozens > Zegras boat.

It’s a moot argument if the players are both 2nd line producers.

What I’m worried about is Quinn being a serviceable NHL’er and is leaving a potential high impact top 6 forward on the board.

That isn’t good, especially with the fact we now have a lack of Center’s in the pipeline (without seeing a Jack Eichel return)

- Pegullaville

Unfortunately we have had a lack of C depth in the system for awhile. We just have to see how Quinn grows, hell the move to C might be a good thing for him.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
Before last draft we had a need for wingers... Now that jacks leaving its shifting back to C.

If Jack was staying we'd be lacking in top line winger talent.

Oh how things change in a years time.

- DirtyDan


Centers can shift to wing. Not all wingers can shift to the middle.

Centers are harder to come by then wingers.

Cozens may end up being a better winger than Center for all we know, however I do feel comfortable projecting him as our long term 2C and would take that bet.

Rossi/Perfetti could easily play the wing if it got to that point.

Take the best player over position of need always.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:47 PM ET
There may be a goalie taxi squad, per Bill Daly
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 16 @ 3:51 PM ET
Centers can shift to wing. Not all wingers can shift to the middle.

Centers are harder to come by then wingers.

Cozens may end up being a better winger than Center for all we know, however I do feel comfortable projecting him as our long term 2C and would take that bet.

Rossi/Perfetti could easily play the wing if it got to that point.

Take the best player over position of need always.

- Pegullaville


I know how it works but sometimes the book gets thrown out the window.

I was shocked when we took him and honestly hated the pick but the past is just that.


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
There may be a goalie taxi squad, per Bill Daly
- Powerslave


Teams should always have 3-4 goalies incase of injury or other bs. Having a zamboni driver play goalie should never happen and makes the league look like a joke
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
I was one of them and I am not ashamed to admit it. 99.5% of the time that kind of pick goes exactly the way that people expect it to.
- Slump Buster

Yup
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
There may be a goalie taxi squad, per Bill Daly
- Powerslave

Well we should be good, but we can always go get Curtis McElhinney he meets the age requirements.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
Teams should always have 3-4 goalies incase of injury or other bs. Having a zamboni driver play goalie should never happen and makes the league look like a joke
- DirtyDan


Emergency backups playing have produced 2 amazing stories the last few years. Just them dressing is good fun. It's so incredibly rare, I don't see a problem.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:09 PM ET
The Sabres made an awful pick with Quinn.

Quinn also could be pretty good

Both can be true

The defense of everything the Harbor Center GM has done is mind boggling.

We finished last and are trying to finish last again

- sbroads24


Over-exaggerating as usual
NO ONE is defending “EVERYTHING” Adams has done
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
If you’re healthy enough to put the sweater on, you’ll be judged on that performance.

If it was that severe they would have shut him down earlier.

- Pegullaville


Peggville this needs to be bookmarked.

Quinn could easily have a offseason like josh allen.

Terrible according to you , then the most miraculous turn around in sports history.

I like the upside quinn brings. IMO
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
With all that being said -

I look forward to every time Quinn scores reading people on here post

“But I thought Quinn sucked” even though 0 people are saying he’s going to suck or be a complete bust

- sbroads24


You mean like how ZERO people are saying Adams has done everything right….
Yet here u are, arguing that’s what’s happening

Good grief dude
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:15 PM ET
And now Boss wants his number retired.
- jochfr


Michael jordan got cut from his high school team , should that have prevented his Jersey from being retired? 🤔
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/sabre...espn-hulu-tnt/c-326166946
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 16 @ 4:19 PM ET
Teams should always have 3-4 goalies incase of injury or other bs. Having a zamboni driver play goalie should never happen and the Leafs losing to one makes them look like a joke
- DirtyDan



FIFY
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:19 PM ET
Peggville this needs to be bookmarked.

Quinn could easily have a offseason like josh allen.

Terrible according to you , then the most miraculous turn around in sports history.

I like the upside quinn brings. IMO

- Boss34


For every Josh Allen developmental path there are 10 Drew Locks
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 4:19 PM ET
Well we should be good, but we can always go get Curtis McElhinney he meets the age requirements.
- Buff36

im sure Hasek would throw his skates back on and get out there too.. he really meets the age requirement
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:22 PM ET
Centers can shift to wing. Not all wingers can shift to the middle.

Centers are harder to come by then wingers.

Cozens may end up being a better winger than Center for all we know, however I do feel comfortable projecting him as our long term 2C and would take that bet.

Rossi/Perfetti could easily play the wing if it got to that point.

Take the best player over position of need always.

- Pegullaville



Pegsville, how much more "draft capital" did the Sabres recieve for the golden boy Samson?

He clearly showed the ability to play center. Versatility got us futures...

Probably why he went second, as you've pointed out. He was supposed to be a center....
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 4:23 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/sabre...ter-breakdown/c-326169270
I hope Samuelsson Laaksonen can grow as a pair in Rochester for this year, can bring them up as 3rd pair next year.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 4:24 PM ET
im sure Hasek would throw his skates back on and get out there too.. he really meets the age requirement
- SabresFaninIndiana

And still probably better than a few of are goalie's
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:25 PM ET
For every Josh Allen developmental path there are 10 Drew Locks
- Pegullaville


That's fair and I respect your opinion on these young draftable players.

Myself, I kinda like the fact that quinn just chose hockey as a #1 sport. He's definitely been banged up.

I guess the pick has some potential built into it.

Rossi may not have as much room to grow? Maybe?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:27 PM ET
Watching NFL Live, and they just commented how Allen had the lowest QBR in the league against the zone last week

Was also ranked bottom5 in the NFL in completion %
and bottom 5 in yards per attempt


Hopefully it was just bc Pittsburgh’s defense is that good,
and not that teams are figuring him out
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
That's fair and I respect your opinion on these young draftable players.

Myself, I kinda like the fact that quinn just chose hockey as a #1 sport. He's definitely been banged up.

I guess the pick has some potential built into it.

Rossi may not have as much room to grow? Maybe?

- Boss34


Quinn could be the best thing since sliced bread, it’s just that the Sabres passed on players that have a higher probability of being bonafide top 6 forwards.

Like others have said, time will tell.


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
Watching NFL Live, and they just commented how Allen had the lowest QBR in the league against the zone last week

Hopefully it was just bc Pittsburgh’s defense is that good,
and not that teams are figuring him out

- jdfitz77

He had problems last year with Zone. Think we need to get that Oline playing better, I mean on 51 drop backs last week Allen was either pressured, sacked or hit on 34 of them.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
Watching NFL Live, and they just commented how Allen had the lowest QBR in the league against the zone last week

Hopefully it was just bc Pittsburgh’s defense is that good,
and not that teams are figuring him out

- jdfitz77


I think Daboll needs to do a better job of mixing in different formations.

When there is no threat of a running game and you keep coming out in 3 wide and 4 wide and the Steelers are just going to sit back then you’re playing to their strengths.

Then again, how many defences have the front 7 the Steelers have that can apply pressure without blitzing and be able to devote more guys to coverage areas ? Very few.

Football is a game of chess and the Steelers are one of the few teams that can matchup with the Bills strengths.

We’ll see how they do against Miami this week.

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