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Forums :: Blog World :: Hank Balling: 2014-15 Sabres vs. 2021-2022 Sabres (Pt. 1)
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 16 @ 7:44 AM ET
Interesting,
Corey Pronman has heard the NHL will move the 2022 Draft into early July.
Since the the year traditionally ends each June 30th, with the FA period starting on July 1st...the Draft would occur after the start of FA and when No Trade and No Movement clauses kick in with the start of each new year.

Since the Draft is when the most trades occur, wonder if it will have any impact on the Eichel Trade assuming he is still here through this season.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 7:52 AM ET
Interesting,
Corey Pronman has heard the NHL will move the 2022 Draft into early July.
Since the the year traditionally ends each June 30th, with the FA period starting on July 1st...the Draft would occur after the start of FA and when No Trade and No Movement clauses kick in with the start of each new year.

Since the Draft is when the most trades occur, wonder if it will have any impact on the Eichel Trade assuming he is still here through this season.

- IonSabres


That's assuming the league wouldn't also push out the date that the new league year begins as well.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 16 @ 8:00 AM ET
That's assuming the league wouldn't also push out the date that the new league year begins as well.
- kingcong39


Correct.
I would think that would be more difficult to justify and require NHLPA approval as well.

I can see the draft moved back as the Playoffs typically end into June...but even then GMs would still have ~ 2-1/2 weeks to finalize their draft board. I'd like to understand the reasoning.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 16 @ 8:18 AM ET

- Gr8daygo

SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:20 AM ET
https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2021/09/buffalo-bills-are-super-bowl-frauds-says-espn-analyst.html
That didn't take long

- Buff36

good... hopefully that puts a chip on their shoulder.. seems like they would rather sit in the underdog category anyway
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 8:21 AM ET
Correct.
I would think that would be more difficult to justify and require NHLPA approval as well.

I can see the draft moved back as the Playoffs typically end into June...but even then GMs would still have ~ 2-1/2 weeks to finalize their draft board. I'd like to understand the reasoning.

- IonSabres

some how $.. thats all they care about
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 16 @ 8:24 AM ET
some how $.. thats all they care about
- SabresFaninIndiana

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 16 @ 9:40 AM ET
https://thehockeywriters.com/3-sabres-watch-prospects-challenge/
Looking forward to hearing some good stuff on a few of these guys. I am gonna keep a eye on Cairns at LD also

- Buff36

Mack Guzda

"cheese"
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:07 AM ET
Mack Guzda

"cheese"

- jochfr



Bufsaints8
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: TN
Joined: 07.20.2012

Sep 16 @ 10:20 AM ET
Hey All...any word on how to watch the Prospects this weekend for us out-of-towners? I assume Sabres.com will stream it but haven't seen anything yet. Cheers!
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 10:24 AM ET
Going back to the Quinn-at-center conversation, it's interesting to note that Adams mentioned the concept on his draft day

From Sabres.com:

What the Sabres strived to do in their evaluation process was discover the "why" and "how" behind the data. The metrics revealed that Quinn was a player who drove possession and had the puck on his stick often in the OHL. They liked that he scored in different ways, with 37 goals at even strength and 15 on the power play. Adams said Quinn even had "center tendencies" playing on the wing.


It's certainly something to monitor going forward
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 10:26 AM ET
Hey All...any word on how to watch the Prospects this weekend for us out-of-towners? I assume Sabres.com will stream it but haven't seen anything yet. Cheers!
- Bufsaints8


Neither have I. The Sabres website has nothing about a telecast or YouTube stream that I've seen
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:26 AM ET
Hey All...any word on how to watch the Prospects this weekend for us out-of-towners? I assume Sabres.com will stream it but haven't seen anything yet. Cheers!
- Bufsaints8


They typically live stream on sabres.com. I'd also assume Paul Hamilton will be on the call for WGR.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:27 AM ET
Going back to the Quinn-at-center conversation, it's interesting to note that Adams mentioned the concept on his draft day

From Sabres.com:



It's certainly interesting to monitor going forward

- Hank Balling


BuT lUnDeLl

Liking a player and choosing him, knowing it's possible to be versatile is/can be mutually exclusive of picking a center because he has experience at center.

There is no "Well we needed a center so we ignored it and picked a guy who we had ranked below the available centers because we're jerkoffs"

They're jerkoffs for many reasons, but not because of that. And look. They analytically defended the pick, something most of us have been clamoring for.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:33 AM ET
The league is projecting that 98% of the players will be vaccinated. Apparently it is not a requirement for the players like it is for all staffing, which I suppose shouldn't be a surprise considering the players fall under a union that the staff do not.

Tony D will be under strict protocols.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
They typically live stream on sabres.com. I'd also assume Paul Hamilton will be on the call for WGR.
- TheSabresTaco


The answer is at the end of this video link from Duff.

Live broadcast streams Friday night at 7PM for the first game against the Devils.

https://twitter.com/Buffa.../1438270968221388802?s=19
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:48 AM ET
BuT lUnDeLl

Liking a player and choosing him, knowing it's possible to be versatile is/can be mutually exclusive of picking a center because he has experience at center.

There is no "Well we needed a center so we ignored it and picked a guy who we had ranked below the available centers because we're jerkoffs"

They're jerkoffs for many reasons, but not because of that. And look. They analytically defended the pick, something most of us have been clamoring for.

- TheSabresTaco


The same analytics team that brought us Cody Eakin and Tobias Reider that same offseason.

Analytics also favoured Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell and if we are privy on wingers Seth Jarvis would have even been a better pick analytically speaking.

We’ve gone from was Jack Quinn the best player available at 8th OA to is he even a better prospect than Peterka.

SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 10:49 AM ET
Going back to the Quinn-at-center conversation, it's interesting to note that Adams mentioned the concept on his draft day

From Sabres.com:



It's certainly something to monitor going forward

- Hank Balling

based upon that quote does it make you think that they feel that a lot of Rossi's success was driven by Quinn?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 10:50 AM ET
The same analytics team that brought us Cody Eakin and Tobias Reider that same offseason.

Analytics also favoured Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell and if we are privy on wingers Seth Jarvis would have even been a better pick analytically speaking.

We’ve gone from was Jack Quinn the best player available at 8th OA to is he even a better prospect than Peterka.

- Pegullaville

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 16 @ 10:53 AM ET
The same analytics team that brought us Cody Eakin and Tobias Reider that same offseason.

Analytics also favoured Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell and if we are privy on wingers Seth Jarvis would have even been a better pick analytically speaking.

We’ve gone from was Jack Quinn the best player available at 8th OA to is he even a better prospect than Peterka.

- Pegullaville


You have. The crying over spilled milk needs to stop. I mean I guess it doesn't considering this is a discussion forum, but looking in the rearview mirror all the time is no way to live. In my opinion.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Sep 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
The same analytics team that brought us Cody Eakin and Tobias Reider that same offseason.

Analytics also favoured Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell and if we are privy on wingers Seth Jarvis would have even been a better pick analytically speaking.

We’ve gone from was Jack Quinn the best player available at 8th OA to is he even a better prospect than Peterka.

- Pegullaville



Whos saying this? Other than you
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
BuT lUnDeLl

Liking a player and choosing him, knowing it's possible to be versatile is/can be mutually exclusive of picking a center because he has experience at center.

There is no "Well we needed a center so we ignored it and picked a guy who we had ranked below the available centers because we're jerkoffs"

They're jerkoffs for many reasons, but not because of that. And look. They analytically defended the pick, something most of us have been clamoring for.

- TheSabresTaco


They saw something in him before the draft that said center is a possibility. If this weekend goes well then there's no reason he shouldn't start at C in Roch
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Sep 16 @ 10:56 AM ET
Whos saying this? Other than you
- DirtyDan

I’ve thought about it.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Sep 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
The answer is at the end of this video link from Duff.

Live broadcast streams Friday night at 7PM for the first game against the Devils.

https://twitter.com/Buffa.../1438270968221388802?s=19

- kingcong39


Man, it would have been helpful for that info to be on either of their homepage articles about it
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Sep 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
I’ve thought about it.
- TheHank

i think after the worlds a lot of people on here thought about it
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