TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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They saw something in him that said center is a possibility. If this weekend goes well then there's no reason he shouldn't start at C in Roch - Hank Balling
A bit of a hyperbole, but you don't draft Michael McCloud when Matthew Tkachuk is on the board because you need a (frank)ing center. It's irresponsible at best. You take the best player. If Jack Quinn is the best player in the long term at that point in time, you take him. It's that simple. Using the 'well other guys are centers' argument is nonsense, at best.
If they turn out to be right, we all benefit. If they're wrong, then they're wrong, and that sucks for all of us, and then we get sucked into a 'but Draisaitl' argument again and that should be a blast. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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i think after the worlds a lot of people on here thought about it - SabresFaninIndiana
Casey Mittelstadt won MVP in 2018. Dahlin and Makar were in attendance.
Based on that tournament, Casey Mittelstadt is the best player today to play from 2018. |
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TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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Casey Mittelstadt won MVP in 2018v. Dahlin and Makar were in attendance.
Based on that tournament, Casey Mittelstadt is the best player today to play from 2018. - TheSabresTaco
That escalated quickly. We just went from “wondering” to “is”. |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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i think after the worlds a lot of people on here thought about it - SabresFaninIndiana
Terka's second WJC's.. usually guys score more in there 2nd and 3rd tournaments.
And JJ played top line while Quinn was more 2/3.
Good thing is we have 2 great prospects from that draft
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Casey Mittelstadt won MVP in 2018. Dahlin and Makar were in attendance.
Based on that tournament, Casey Mittelstadt is the best player today to play from 2018. - TheSabresTaco
So we aren’t going to consider his performance overseas in the Austrian league and DEL while Quinn had like 20+ other teenagers out score him in the AHL ?
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Terka's second WJC's.. usually guys score more in there 2nd and 3rd tournaments.
And JJ played top line while Quinn was more 2/3.
Good thing is we have 2 great prospects from that draft
- DirtyDan
JJ is still young enough to play in this years tournament as well I believe.
Quinn cannot.
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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That escalated quickly. We just went from “wondering” to “is”. - TheHank
It's a consistent argument here. Basing the world juniors tournament on the entire career of a prospect.
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TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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It's a consistent argument here. Basing the world juniors tournament on the entire career of a prospect. - TheSabresTaco
I’m well aware. |
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jochfr
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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Casey Mittelstadt won MVP in 2018. Dahlin and Makar were in attendance.
Based on that tournament, Casey Mittelstadt is the best player today to play from 2018. - TheSabresTaco
not just from that draft.. casey is better than McEichel |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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So we aren’t going to consider his performance overseas in the Austrian league and DEL while Quinn had like 20+ other teenagers out score him in the AHL ? - Pegullaville
Consider all you like. The only thing that matters is where these guys are at 24, 25. All situations are different. What league you're in, what position you play, how many minutes you receive, what team mates you play with, injuries you're dealing with, how your coach uses you, where you are in your development, what qualities you have on the ice and physically, what your competition is..
Saying one guy that plays a different position in a different league is better than another guy in a completely different situation is beyond ludicrous.
Jack Eichel had a poopty juniors. Peterka and Mittelstadt outscored him, so does that make them better at the same age? It's nonsense.
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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BustQuinn - jochfr
We Pavel Zacha’d the 2020 draft.
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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not just from that draft.. casey is better than McEichel - SabresFaninIndiana
That's the conclusion I'm walking myself into.
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It's a consistent argument here. Basing the world juniors tournament on the entire career of a prospect. - TheSabresTaco
thats why we have the best goalie prospect out there.....
levi |
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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We Pavel Zacha’d the 2020 draft. - Pegullaville
Zacha scored at a .70% pace this past year...
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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thats why we have the best goalie prospect out there.....
levi - SabresFaninIndiana
UPL was also excellent. |
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Consider all you like. The only thing that matters is where these guys are at 24, 25. All situations are different. What league you're in, what position you play, how many minutes you receive, what team mates you play with, injuries you're dealing with, how your coach uses you, where you are in your development, what qualities you have on the ice and physically, what your competition is..
Saying one guy that plays a different position in a different league is better than another guy in a completely different situation is beyond ludicrous.
Jack Eichel had a poopty juniors. Peterka and Mittelstadt outscored him, so does that make them better at the same age? It's nonsense. - TheSabresTaco
Jack Eichel also had the best if not one of the best college freshman seasons ever.
Jack Quinn had one good year of junior in the OHL and has been underwhelming everywhere else.
I am considering the full sample size here.
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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The only thing the juniors do is throw coal into the Hype Train. Quinn's stock was down, Peterka's was up. They're both very good players and I'm really looking forward to seeing their progression this year in Rochester. |
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Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Zacha scored at a .70% pace this past year... - DirtyDan
Go look at the 2015 NHL draft and look at the 10-15 players that went after Zacha.
Then tell me how you would feel as a Devils fan |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Jack Eichel also had the best if not one of the best college freshman seasons ever.
Jack Quinn had one good year of junior in the OHL and has been underwhelming everywhere else.
I am considering the full sample size here. - Pegullaville
Quinn has a small sample overall. That's fair. But are we including the fact that he had a meteoric rise his draft year? What does that count for? Why exactly did he rocket up? What did all of these scouts see exactly?
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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Go look at the 2015 NHL draft and look at the 10-15 players that went after Zacha.
Then tell me how you would feel as a Devils fan - Pegullaville
They did better than boston... and Boston had 3 pick ina row |
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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Quinn has a small sample overall. That's fair. But are we including the fact that he had a meteoric rise his draft year? What does that count for? Why exactly did he rocket up? What did all of these scouts see exactly? - TheSabresTaco
Cocaine and hookers helped. |
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TheSabresTaco
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Cocaine and hookers helped. - jochfr
As is their job.
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DirtyDan
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Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON Joined: 02.03.2021
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The only thing the juniors do is throw coal into the Hype Train. Quinn's stock was down, Peterka's was up. They're both very good players and I'm really looking forward to seeing their progression this year in Rochester. - TheSabresTaco
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As is their job. - TheSabresTaco
at least the hookers.. they typically are designed to make things go up |
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