Stars, Ducks, Flames could all be poop too.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Meh, id still rather see sj get the 1st overall.

I dont see calgary being in the bottom

Well damn that's a hot take.
- Leafs43

It really isn’t.

Rielly is far and away the #1

The rest are average, Holl and Dermott are borderline NHL dmen.

Matthews/Bunting birthdays today. I think that’s cute

It really isn’t.

Rielly is far and away the #1

The rest are average, Holl and Dermott are borderline NHL dmen.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Huh?

Reilly was terrible last year but was better in the playoffs.

Brodie was probably the most solid player all year then muzzin

It really isn’t.

Rielly is far and away the #1

The rest are average, Holl and Dermott are borderline NHL dmen.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I feel like Muzzin is the most important defenseman on the Leafs.

Not necessarely the one with the most abilities.

But without him, the defense crumbles.

Either way, even if you're extremely confident in him taking a step forward next year, he's at the most the Leafs 3rd best. And that's not being very nice to Brodie.

I feel like he still has alot to prove.

Aardvark on fire!
- Scabeh

That left side is abysmal. I think Robertson is 100% going to be in the lineup. Ritchie is brutal offensively, and Bunting is unproven. If Mikheyev and Engvall don’t get off to a hot start I can see Dubas going out and grabbing another LW.

Also, Sandin is our second best defenceman. Brodie is solid, but isn’t a threat. Muzzin.. idk we’ll see. It’s time for Robertson and Sandin to play key roles, and I think they’re ready for it.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

So does that make morgan our 3rd best dman?
Weird that our 2nd best dman has yet to make the line up on a reg basis.
We'll see

Matthews/Bunting birthdays today. I think that’s cute
- Canada Cup

Semien too

I feel like Muzzin is the most important defenseman on the Leafs.

Not necessarely the one with the most abilities.

But without him, the defense crumbles.

Either way, even if you're extremely confident in him taking a step forward next year, he's at the most the Leafs 3rd best. And that's being very nice to Brodie.

I feel like he still has alot to prove.
- Scabeh

Muzzin is by far our most important.

Huh?

Reilly was terrible last year but was better in the playoffs.

Brodie was probably the most solid player all year then muzzin
- bryant

This is so insane to me, the lack of respect Rielly gets from Leafs fans.

He’s so clearly our best defenceman and it’s not even debatable.

Muzzin is by far our most important.
- Fakepartofme

Lol no.

SpikeVax > Comirnaty

That left side is abysmal. I think Robertson is 100% going to be in the lineup. Ritchie is brutal offensively, and Bunting is unproven. If Mikheyev and Engvall don’t get off to a hot start I can see Dubas going out and grabbing another LW.

Also, Sandin is our second best defenceman. Brodie is solid, but isn’t a threat. Muzzin.. idk we’ll see. It’s time for Robertson and Sandin to play key roles, and I think they’re ready for it.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Left side was weak last season too, they replaced Hyman and Thornton with Bunting and Ritchie

So, nothing has changed.
I would like to see Robertson get a chance, maybe he can beat out Mikheyev? I like Engvall, because he can play C.

Lol no.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Lol ya.
Anytime he gets injured, the defense falls apart.
....and morgan sucks defensively

I feel like Muzzin is the most important defenseman on the Leafs.

Not necessarely the one with the most abilities.

But without him, the defense crumbles.

Either way, even if you're extremely confident in him taking a step forward next year, he's at the most the Leafs 3rd best. And that's not being very nice to Brodie.

I feel like he still has alot to prove.
- Scabeh

That’s sorta like saying Heiskenan, Hughes, Fox are the third best dmen on their teams. They’re all young, great skaters with offensive upside. Sandin will be that type of player.

Muzzin and Brodie can play defence, but they’re sorta statues out there.

I feel like Muzzin is the most important defenseman on the Leafs.

Not necessarely the one with the most abilities.

But without him, the defense crumbles.

Either way, even if you're extremely confident in him taking a step forward next year, he's at the most the Leafs 3rd best. And that's not being very nice to Brodie.

I feel like he still has alot to prove.
- Scabeh

I think you're right, in terms of importance to the team it's Muzzin, Brodie then Rielly

Left side was weak last season too, they replaced Hyman and Thornton with Bunting and Ritchie

So, nothing has changed.
I would like to see Robertson get a chance, maybe he can beat out Mikheyev? I like Engvall, because he can play C.
- PatC80

Would love to see Robertson replace mickey.
Then we can trade mickey....like he wants

Yeah I like Muzzin but Rielly is better imo. I anticipate a great year from Captain Morgan.

I think you're right, in terms of importance to the team it's Muzzin, Brodie then Rielly
- PatC80

Agreed.

This is so insane to me, the lack of respect Rielly gets from Leafs fans.

He’s so clearly our best defenceman and it’s not even debatable.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

best and most important are not the same thing.. I trust Muzzin and Brodie more than Rielly on defense, but if I had to pick one to start a team with, I'd take Rielly

That’s sorta like saying Heiskenan, Hughes, Fox are the third best dmen on their teams. They’re all young, great skaters with offensive upside. Sandin will be that type of player.

Muzzin and Brodie can play defence, but they’re sorta statues out there.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Well once Sandin actually plays like Heiskanen, Hughes or Fox, I'll agree with you.

Until then, he's a young talented player who has alot to prove.

The guys you mentioned don't just have upside, they have actual results.

Agreed.
- Fakepartofme

In terms of skill, Rielly is superior, in terms of what the Leafs need on defense, it's Muzzin and Brodie

It really isn’t.

Rielly is far and away the #1

The rest are average, Holl and Dermott are borderline NHL dmen.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Saying that Sandin is better than Muzzin and Brodie is a pretty hot take.

But hey, I hope you're right, so I'm happy with the hot take.

Vancouver ain't that terrible imo. Probably not good enough to make the playoffs.... but not terrible.

Well assuming they sign their RFAs at least.

- Scabeh

So on par with the Habs

Vancouver ain't that terrible imo. Probably not good enough to make the playoffs.... but not terrible.

Well assuming they sign their RFAs at least.

- Scabeh

Vancouver could surprise a few teams.

Pettersson, Miller, Boeser, Horvat, Hughes, OEL, Garland, Demko.. They have a lot of good pieces in place