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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
Is Hamonic coming to camp OR WHAT??!?!?!?!?!
- manvanfan


Not if he doesn't drink the Kool-Aid. If he doesn't fine.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
I'm from MB, I just pay more taxes.
- manvanfan


And so you should
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
I could be wrong about my “Madison Bowey will make the team out of camp” prediction
- 1970vintage

One of the greatest Rocket captains of all time!
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 27 @ 11:07 AM ET
Should be a close one. The Seahawks are in trouble, their D is horrific, the players don't understand assignments. That tells me they need to fire Ken Norton Jr.
- VanHockeyGuy


It's terrible, their D is atrocious. I think the players are okay (better than what they're showing), but Norton has never been a good coach anywhere he coached. He should have been fired last season.

It all comes down to Petey boy though. He needs to adapt, both in-game and to the times. Don't think he will.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:07 AM ET
I could be wrong about my “Madison Bowey will make the team out of camp” prediction
- 1970vintage

He was probably 7th on the RHD depth chart to start but with Hamonic not around and Keeper breaking his leg. He's moving on up.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:08 AM ET
One of the greatest Rocket captains of all time!
- K-man25


We’re still waiting for your Markstrom comeback…
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
He was probably 7th on the RHD depth chart to start but with Hamonic not around and Keeper breaking his leg. He's moving on up.
- manvanfan


Canucks are going to need Selke like performances by at least four forwards this season because the defense is going to be brutal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
How exciting that I have to go to Lethbridge for work next week because an unvaccinated 56 year old died from covid and I have to go do his work till he can be replaced.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
We’re still waiting for your Markstrom comeback…
- 1970vintage

Markstrom comeback player of the year, leads the league in every statistic playing behind a solid defence, Vezina Trophy Winner!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
Canucks are going to need Selke like performances by at least four forwards this season because the defense is going to be brutal.
- 1970vintage

Demko will stand on his head and people won't worry. Shaw hasn't had enough time to break all of Green's team bad habits anyways. I'll worry around Christmas.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
It's terrible, their D is atrocious. I think the players are okay (better than what they're showing), but Norton has never been a good coach anywhere he coached. He should have been fired last season.

It all comes down to Petey boy though. He needs to adapt, both in-game and to the times. Don't think he will.

- NewYorkNuck


Trey Flowers is sh*t, hand picked by Carroll. I don't like their chances next week either. Jamal Adam's also needs to play better. Bottom line is if the players don't understand what they are supposed to do, the solution is obvious.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
Green runs his preseasons kind of backwards. While other teams are trying to figure out their NHL line ups from the start, he'll keep rotating lower tier players until the very last preseason game. We'll open the season against teams that gelled lines for a week plus ahead of us all in the name of getting looks at players who are obviously not in the picture. Those players should be showcasing in the AHL camp but right up to the end, they will be on a 2/3 NHL line. There will be confusion in the first few regular season games as he will face second guessing and be forced to make changes... something that could have been done in the preseason.

Doubt me but he's done this every season and I've made this post the last 2 preseasons and got it right.

Remember when QH went through rookie camp on the 2nd PP unit, never got a look even though you could see he was ahead of everyone on D? Then game one came and it was the exact same D on the point...Edler... who fumbled the puck over and over and we were yelling for him to get Hughes up there... and by game 3, he did... this should have been figured out in the preseason but he refused to do what everyone else could see... Hughes was the guy... Edler had no reason to be the QB... he sucked on the point and the whole world could see it. The whole world had watched Edler being the other teams best PK... but Green is one stubborn MF.

- boonerbuck


Green does this every year. He even said a few days ago the roster you start the preseason games with is a lot different than the one you finish them with.

They had b2b games and they wanted the veteran lineup for their home game to show the crowd, much like Seattle did last night.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 27 @ 11:15 AM ET
Ya I don't really buy this. Other teams are figuring out their NHL lineups from the start? No they aren't: it's a constant mix of players until they start to whittle the team down. TG has done some good things in preseason as well, like Petey as C and pairing QH and Tanev immediately and allowing young guys to beat out vets amongst others. I'm all for TG bashing, but given the poop he's had to work with it's not like there were clear cut NHL players in the organization.

On the flip side, if he wasn't giving people opportunities to showcase themself (Motte, Klim, Rathbone, etc) people would be yelling he's too stuck in his head

- NewYorkNuck


Im not talking about bubble players or players you know have a shot... or players like Rathbone and Klim that are being groomed. I'm talking about players you know are not really in the picture.

Also, watch how many times we face a team with many more NHL players in their preseason line up. Over and over it's the same. Keep telling yourself all the other clubs are doing the same as Green. Maybe a couple... but most are looking at their potential line ups... not tier 3 or 4 players. Give it a couple more preseason games and you'll see what Im talking about... this is the 2nd game... lets see what the lines look like at #4 or so....

I get this reply every time.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
Is Hamonic coming to camp OR WHAT??!?!?!?!?!
- manvanfan

Benning said Hamonic would be there, he never lies, so he must be there?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
Markstrom comeback player of the year, leads the league in every statistic playing behind a solid defence, Vezina Trophy Winner!
- K-man25


Then the acid, glue, bath salts and Lysol wore off.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
Canucks are going to need Selke like performances by at least four forwards this season because the defense is going to be brutal.
- 1970vintage


Work in progress

Poolman OEL look okay and after that
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
Green does this every year. He even said a few days ago the roster you start the preseason games with is a lot different than the one you finish them with.

They had b2b games and they wanted the veteran lineup for their home game to show the crowd, much like Seattle did last night.

- VANTEL


Seattle doesn’t have much beyond their NHL roster. Kinda what you see is what you get.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Benning said Hamonic would be there, he never lies, so he must be there?
- LeftCoaster


If all mistakes are lies... then that doesn't look too good on you.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Benning said Hamonic would be there, he never lies, so he must be there?
- LeftCoaster

I watched some of the highlights of other teams young star tournaments.

Got to say, I don't miss it for Van's prospects. What a poop show some of those games were. 3/4 of the players never ever going to even see NHL action, running around trying to impress.

Ryan Johnson was right that the kids come to main camp battered and bruised then are asked to impress against actual NHL competition.

Do we get to see Benning's newest acquisitions tonight do we know yet?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:20 AM ET
Should be a close one. The Seahawks are in trouble, their D is horrific, the players don't understand assignments. That tells me they need to fire Ken Norton Jr.
- VanHockeyGuy

Haven't watched a Seahawk game yet, I did, however, watch both Arizona Cardinal games. Murray looks like a young Russel Wilson.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:21 AM ET
Seattle doesn’t have much beyond their NHL roster. Kinda what you see is what you get.
- 1970vintage


They are awful .
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:22 AM ET
If all mistakes are lies... then that doesn't look too good on you.

- boonerbuck

We had our first grandson two days ago, our second grandchild, I made my own people, I'm their leader....it makes up for all my many mistakes in life
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:22 AM ET
Work in progress

Poolman OEL look okay and after that

- VANTEL


That would be an ok 2nd pairing. But it’s going to be the matchup pair playing the tough minutes. After them it’s a bunch of ok 3rd pairing guys.

It should be exciting 🤷‍♂️
CoolerHeads
Joined: 07.04.2015

Sep 27 @ 11:23 AM ET
Benning said Hamonic would be there, he never lies, so he must be there?
- LeftCoaster


Did he say he would be there or that everyone would be vaccinated? Have to think that there is a good chance Hamonic will waive by Oct 1st and is out for this season. $3M to spend on EP and QH?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 11:25 AM ET
Did he say he would be there or that everyone would be vaccinated? Have to think that there is a good chance Hamonic will waive by Oct 1st and is out for this season. $3M to spend on EP and QH?
- CoolerHeads

I hope so if he's such an idiot that he won't get vaccinated then I hope they can reallocate that money to the young players who deserve it.
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