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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:35 PM ET
He's actually really good at it.
- Zezel

He’s actually not, bud..

He just stands there wave his stick around. It’s hard to get the puck back when you’re to scared to make physical contact with anyone.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:36 PM ET
He’s actually not, bud..

He just stands there wave his stick around. It’s hard to get the puck back when you’re to scared to make physical contact with anyone.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Your the spatso of Willy takes
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:37 PM ET
Why must he carry/drive the line? Can he be a secondary for the line he's on? Players will not give him too much attention to let him rip his shots up high and sometimes miss the net.
He will get his chances.

- dmnted

Because he gets paid to.

He makes a LOT of $. He’s essentially a 30/30 player who’s subpar defensively. He’s JVR.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:38 PM ET
Your the spatso of Willy takes
- Zezel

If Willy is worth $7M, he should be able to drive a line and get his pts on the PP.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 28 @ 9:38 PM ET
Hyman got his 1st - from McD and Pulju.
30 goals this season?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 28 @ 9:38 PM ET
hey, how bout those Rangers eh

always nice to beat the big, bad B's

- 21peter

Man, I love what the Rangers have done.

They’re in the group of teams I watch most.

Most watched is Boston, Rangers, Leafs, Carolina, Tampa, Edmonton, Florida, and the Stars.

Edit:Colorado, of course.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:39 PM ET
He has improved for sure.
But to think he "ramped" it up defensively doesn't seem correct.
Hes gotten better, sure but lets not kid ourselves

He also held out for 7.5 per. Its only 6.9 cap hit because he sat out half a season.
But as ive said so many times on here. 6.9 or 7.5...if he scores 65 -75pts. Salary is fine.

- Fakepartofme

How come none of you think that might've been an actual strategy by Dubas and Nylander's team.

Maybe he sat out that time so he could get $7.5 and the Leafs would get to keep an extra $600k off of the Cap?!?!

At the time Dubas didn't know about Covid but he knew he had to save as much as possible for M&M and he had signed Tavares.

Nobody wins the Cup in Oct/Nov and Willie was on the ice in December.

Could've been a strategy all along.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 28 @ 9:39 PM ET
We’ll, they’re not going to have the puck the entire time. Willy is terrible in the D zone trying to get the puck back.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'm no stats guy but I do recall seeing Willy doing just fine retrieving puck from other players in the D-zone
New season to review/critique his play
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:42 PM ET
I'm no stats guy but I do recall seeing Willy doing just fine retrieving puck from other players in the D-zone
New season to review/critique his play

- dmnted

Lol he’s terrible at it.. he just stands there waving his stick around.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:42 PM ET
If Willy is worth $7M, he should be able to drive a line and get his pts on the PP.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Indeed
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 28 @ 9:45 PM ET
Man, I love what the Rangers have done.

They’re in the group of teams I watch most.

Most watched is Boston, Rangers, Leafs, Carolina, Tampa, Edmonton, Florida, and the Stars.

Edit:Colorado, of course.

- RickJames77

yeah, the rebuild on the fly for sure been faster than expected.

Rangers, Leafs, Oils, Tampa, Boston for me. And will watch Detroit when they good again in 2-4 years.
Edit: looks like I forgot Avs too - Mac has always been a favourite.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Sep 28 @ 9:48 PM ET
Jays😔
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
Lol he’s terrible at it.. he just stands there waving his stick around.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
He’ll get far fewer minutes against the other top lines.

Let him show he can carry a line, and be defensively responsible. My guess is that if he tries to do that, his offence will suffer as a result. Then we’ll see what his true value is.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


So other top teams will not try to match up their best scoring lines against a third line with a supposedly terrible defensive player on it?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:52 PM ET
Just 'cos you mentioned it, I threw it into my calculator.

Marner's cap hit would have lowered from $10.9m to $10.4m, but his first year cap hit would have been $14.4m!

- Monkeypunk

Well poo
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
Lol he’s terrible at it.. he just stands there waving his stick around and getting the puck back..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 10:01 PM ET

- dmnted

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 28 @ 10:04 PM ET
If Willy is worth $7M, he should be able to drive a line and get his pts on the PP.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


This means that Marner should drive his own line and a half?! That's zany.

But okay.

Mikheyev - Kampf - Marner for the 3rd line it is.

See? Silliness.

Don't let hate blind you. Willy is a top-6 forward.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
This means that Marner should drive his own line and a half?! That's zany.

But okay.

Mikheyev - Kampf - Marner for the 3rd line it is.

See? Silliness.

Don't let hate blind you. Willy is a top-6 forward.

- Monkeypunk

Marner has already proven it. He carried Bozak and JVR his first year.

Willy is nowhere near the complete player Marner is. And he never will be.

Sure Willy can score like a top six fwd, but he doesn’t defend like one.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 10:06 PM ET
This means that Marner should drive his own line and a half?! That's zany.

But okay.

Mikheyev - Kampf - Marner for the 3rd line it is.

See? Silliness.

Don't let hate blind you. Willy is a top-6 forward.

- Monkeypunk


Shutdown line with 2 30+ scorers with all the tap ins they will get
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 28 @ 10:07 PM ET
Shutdown line with 2 30+ scorers with all the tap ins they will get
- jribout


InSaNe! I say they do it!
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 10:08 PM ET
Since when are all top 6 forwards great, even good shut down players?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Sep 28 @ 10:14 PM ET
Marner has already proven it. He carried Bozak and JVR his first year.

Willy is nowhere near the complete player Marner is. And he never will be.

Sure Willy can score like a top six fwd, but he doesn’t defend like one.

- Arctic_AARDVARK



Good. Then Willy should be in a top-6 role supported by other players since he's paid for his production and Marner can go support the third line since he's such a complete player who can carry an entire line.

Good talk.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 10:19 PM ET
Good. Then Willy should be in a top-6 role supported by other players since he's paid for his production and Marner can go support the third line since he's such a complete player who can carry an entire line.

Good talk.

- Monkeypunk

Marner is a first team NHL all star, that’s ridiculous.

jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Sep 28 @ 10:27 PM ET
Marner is a first team NHL all star, that’s ridiculous.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Third line minutes + PK + PP still gets him close to 20 min/g. Plus turns a couple of 15 goal guys into 30 goal guys and shuts down other team’s top lines.
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