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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
NHL is still honoring covid opt-outs, player doesn't get paid but their contract is still valid if it exists beyond this upcoming season. Pretty sure this was confirmed by The Athletic or Friedman, forgot which source
- Nucker101

You and Vantel are right, I just looked it up.

The NHL’s COVID protocols also cover opting-out. Any player who decides to opt-out of this coming season must do so by October 1. Players can opt-out because they are unvaccinated, or they are fully vaccinated but share a household with someone who is at an increased risk of COVID-19. Teams will have the option of rolling the player’s contract over to the 2022-23 season, or removing the season entirely from their contract agreement. If a player does opt out of the upcoming 2021-22 season, they will be barred from playing in the Olympics or in another league.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
I would void Hamonic’s contract if he doesn’t report and sign them both long term, but that’s me.
- LeftCoaster

Ya Hamonic should just be cut, becoming a distraction. I also agree long term would be awesome, buy so.e ufa years.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Did I say that?
- Marwood

You suggested maybe JB knew less about his own playerz than the posters on here, i thought maybe you meant yourelf. Obviously you meant Nuck4u or one of your other buds
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
Every team pays their star players big money, why should the Canucks be any different? Stop paying plugs so much money and pay your big guns.

Now, Quinn Hughes had a bad year and I’m all for bridging him, however, I’d easily pay EP40 9 million a year on an eight year deal.

- LeftCoaster


I don't think anyone has a huge problem of EP at 8-9 .

Problem is you have an agent that isn't treating them as individual contracts . You want Petey at 9 you have to take Hughes at 8. Yes I am speculating.

If it was as simple as 9 and 6 it would have been done .


LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
Ya Hamonic should just be cut, becoming a distraction. I also agree long term would be awesome, buy so.e ufa years.
- neem55

According to the CBA he can’t be out-right cut. His decision on October 1st is irrevocable though, ie, he can’t change his mind.

Benning could cancel the first year of his deal or roll it forward.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Every team pays their star players big money, why should the Canucks be any different? Stop paying plugs so much money and pay your big guns.

Now, Quinn Hughes had a bad year and I’m all for bridging him, however, I’d easily pay EP40 9 million a year on an eight year deal.

- LeftCoaster

This is pretty accurate. I think Hughes having a bit of sophmore slump helps, as he can sign for less but i think will be much better going forward
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
According to the CBA he can’t be out-right cut. His decision on October 1st is irrevocable though, ie, he can’t change his mind.

Benning could cancel the first year of his deal or roll it forward.

- LeftCoaster

Hmm well, its going to be interesting if hes unvaccinated. When will unvaxed be allowed? Ever?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
I don't think anyone has a huge problem of EP at 8-9 .

Problem is you have an agent that isn't treating them as individual contracts . You want Petey at 9 you have to take Hughes at 8. Yes I am speculating.

If it was as simple as 9 and 6 it would have been done .

- VANTEL

That’s collusion, they can’t legally do that and neither of them are stupid enough to say if you don’t sign him for this much I’m not signing. They both individually want to make money and play.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:41 PM ET
Hmm well, its going to be interesting if hes unvaccinated. When will unvaxed be allowed? Ever?
- neem55

Not sure, but with the way things are going I don’t see his situation getting any better for next season. Thing this is going to be around for several years yet IMO.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Because the dollar figure goes up on long term deals and the Canucks don’t have the cap space this year to accommodate that. If EP40 signs an eight year deal it’s going to be for 9 million and Q. Hughes would cost 8 million (guessing)…Canucks don’t have 17 million in room.

Unless Hammerhead quits?

- LeftCoaster


I don't think I could tolerate having Hughes on the team for 8 years.
I dislike him almost as much as I did Schmidt.

I swear the Canucks fans only care about shiny players and winning a round in the playoffs.
I don't see either of the 2 being the players to get the team to the promised land.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
That’s collusion, they can’t legally do that and neither of them are stupid enough to say if you don’t sign him for this much I’m not signing. They both individually want to make money and play.
- LeftCoaster


Wouldn't it be the same when Benning isn't signing Hughes first to protect against an offer sheet to EP?

I have heard from more than a few insiders including our blogger that agreed that Petey more or less has to be signed first to protect the dreaded OS
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Sep 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
That’s collusion, they can’t legally do that and neither of them are stupid enough to say if you don’t sign him for this much I’m not signing. They both individually want to make money and play.
- LeftCoaster


It's not collusion, they have the same agent, they can certainly have their own demands that overlap each other. It's why they both are sitting out, they aren't going to sign separately so yeah. Both probably want 8x9 because that's what they see themselves as and I'm in the camp of sign EP for that much because he's the franchise player and will be so for at least the next decade so it makes sense.

Hughes I'm definitely not sold on, I don't even think he's a 6 mil x 3 year player at this point, but I'd take him at that price while he and the team figure out if he's a D-man or convert him fully to a winger instead of a rover that's a D but plays like a 3rd winger.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
I don't think I could tolerate having Hughes on the team for 8 years.
I dislike him almost as much as I did Schmidt.

I swear the Canucks fans only care about shiny players and winning a round in the playoffs.
I don't see either of the 2 being the players to get the team to the promised land.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve.

- Reubenkincade


I don't understand why you show so much hate for the player. it seems so personal the way you express yourself over him.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 4:51 PM ET
Wouldn't it be the same when Benning isn't signing Hughes first to protect against an offer sheet to EP?

I have heard from more than a few insiders including our blogger that agreed that Petey more or less has to be signed first to protect the dreaded OS

- VANTEL


It takes more than one to collude. Who would Benning be colluding with?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:52 PM ET
It takes more than one to collude. Who would Benning be colluding with?
- boonerbuck


His owner
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
His owner
- VANTEL


Aquillini will "hire" EP and QH's family to do some "work" from home jobs for his dad's company.

they just happened to be the best candidates for the jobs
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
I don't understand why you show so much hate for the player. it seems so personal the way you express yourself over him.

- boonerbuck


I honestly don't see what most of you slurpers see in him.🙃
The kid is by far the worst defender in the league, has some ego issues, as he has demonstrated during interviews and as Darius says above, and I have said several times, the kid is a winger, not a defenseman.

Have you ever challenged someone for make a similar claim about Myers or Sutter or Beagle?
Not sure how you consider it to be personal, when I am making a choice on what players I like and dislike.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Sep 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
I don't think I could tolerate having Hughes on the team for 8 years.
I dislike him almost as much as I did Schmidt.

I swear the Canucks fans only care about shiny players and winning a round in the playoffs.
I don't see either of the 2 being the players to get the team to the promised land.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve.

- Reubenkincade


I don't hate Hughes as a player, I just think he's miscast as a 1D, I think he should be converted fully to being a winger. I'd be super happy with him next to Bo and Hogs as our second line or even next to Boeser and EP as our 1st line.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
I honestly don't see what most of you slurpers see in him.🙃
The kid is by far the worst defender in the league, has some ego issues, as he has demonstrated during interviews and as Darius says above, and I have said several times, the kid is a winger, not a defenseman.

- Reubenkincade


he's also 21 years old, a lot of dmen at that age are still in the AHL/college and not being tasked with 23 minutes of ice time per game in the NHL. I highly doubt his game has peaked at the age of 20-21.

OEL-Poolman pairing being added to the roster helps every other dman on the roster with less defensive responsibility against opposing top lines.

#CanuckFansAreImpatient
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 4:59 PM ET
I don't think I could tolerate having Hughes on the team for 8 years.
I dislike him almost as much as I did Schmidt.

I swear the Canucks fans only care about shiny players and winning a round in the playoffs.
I don't see either of the 2 being the players to get the team to the promised land.

#canucksfansgetwhattheydeserve.

- Reubenkincade

Pettersson is the important one to re-sign. I agree with Vantel Hughes is only worth 6 million on a show me deal, I’m just speculating what they’re asking for.

Trade him for all I care, but get Pettersson re-signed!!
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
Wouldn't it be the same when Benning isn't signing Hughes first to protect against an offer sheet to EP?

I have heard from more than a few insiders including our blogger that agreed that Petey more or less has to be signed first to protect the dreaded OS

- VANTEL

See my post above, just get Pettersson signed and deal with Hughes accordingly.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
I don't hate Hughes as a player, I just think he's miscast as a 1D, I think he should be converted fully to being a winger. I'd be super happy with him next to Bo and Hogs as our second line or even next to Boeser and EP as our 1st line.
- DariusKnight


I don't get why people always say just convert him to a forward. One of the biggest knocks against him is that he's easy to push off the puck and isn't hard on the boards... how the hell is he going to forecheck? How's he going to win board battles? How's he going to get to the "hard areas" around the net? Just a dumb idea.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
Bridge contracts are worrisome because you know that player is most likely going to get a higher AAV after the bridge than what he would if he signed long term.

Brocks QO is going to be over 7 million, and I know a ton of people in here don't think hes worth that.

If Elias see's that Svechnikov got 8 x 7.75 aav, where Elias got more points in 50 less games, why on earth would he sign a bridge deal for less money when he knows he can make that right off the bat. ( I don't think Elias is confident enough, given his injury history, that he will be worth more than 8 million AAV after a bridge anyway)

I think the biggest thing here, is that given we have seen both bridge and long term deals given out during this massive market inflation of contracts, its not abnormal to see these go so late into preseason. They will get signed and play this year.

- Codes1087

Bridge is the only way to go. We aren’t signing Mackinnon, Horvat or Hedman. We are signing two runts coming off really bad seasons. They have a lot to prove and I’m uncomfortable having these little guys being the highest paid players/ leaders of the team.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 5:05 PM ET
His owner
- VANTEL





Owner and general manager are the same camp. Two players are sperate camps regardless of the agent being the same.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 29 @ 5:06 PM ET
I don't hate Hughes as a player, I just think he's miscast as a 1D, I think he should be converted fully to being a winger. I'd be super happy with him next to Bo and Hogs as our second line or even next to Boeser and EP as our 1st line.
- DariusKnight


All very good points, which I agree mostly with all,except the " i don't hate Hughes" part.👍
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