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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
With that being said, I don't think these two players are cut from the same cloth as brock and Bo.
- boonerbuck


I saw them play as hard as anyone else during that playoff run, last season was questionable for sure. Same could be said for a few players though, I think the whole covid-protocols thing really threw off the locker room comradery.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
I honestly hope they trade these little (frank)s. They both sucked balls last year and want home run contracts? Trade these female doges to Buffalo. Want to be on a winning team? (frank) off to Buffalo you little female doges
- CanuckDon

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
I saw them play as hard as anyone else during that playoff run, last season was questionable for sure. Same could be said for a few players though, I think the whole covid-protocols thing really threw off the locker room comradery.
- Nucker101

Both players sucked last year. They should sign one year deals at a low cap and prove something. Or shut the (frank) up and sign a reasonable bridge and get to work. They don’t deserve long term deals.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
That's a very strange way to say "I'm sorry I was so wrong", but I'll take it
- NewYorkNuck


Thats all you get and more than most offer.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
Both players sucked last year. They should sign one year deals at a low cap and prove something. Or shut the (frank) up and sign a reasonable bridge and get to work. They don’t deserve long term deals.
- CanuckDon


Once they sign and some of you guys calm down, everything will be fine
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:01 PM ET
Once they sign and some of you guys calm down, everything will be fine
- Nucker101




Can’t believe how triggered people are getting over all this.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 2:08 PM ET
Once they sign and some of you guys calm down, everything will be fine
- Nucker101



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:16 PM ET


Can’t believe how triggered people are getting over all this.

- 1970vintage


It's honestly hilarious
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
It's honestly hilarious
- Codes1087

What’s hilarious is Elias thinking he is worth $8MM on a bridge.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
What’s hilarious is Elias thinking he is worth $8MM on a bridge.
- CanuckDon


For comparison, Andrei Svechnikov signed an 8 year 7.75 AAV contract extension. Petey has more points (13) in less games (50) playing with way less talented players on a way poopter team.

whats even more hilarious is the anger and hysteria revolving around 2 core players, who may not be worth what they are holding out for, but are definitely worth a bigger percentage of cap than what has historically been given out to fringe NHLers, bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenders.

These kids watched as LE sat in the box for 6 million a year, Beagle made 3 million a year playing 10 minutes. Sutter being paid 4.25 million playing bottom 6 and PK. Myers and Edler making big money while not producing near to the same extent as Hughes.

And people are mad that these kids want to be making a fair wage when comparable to not only the canucks contracts in the benning era, but what is being given out around the league in the last 6 months.

everyone just needs to relax.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
For comparison, Andrei Svechnikov signed an 8 year 7.75 AAV contract extension. Petey has more points (13) in less games (50) playing with way less talented players on a way poopter team.

whats even more hilarious is the anger and hysteria revolving around 2 core players, who may not be worth what they are holding out for, but are definitely worth a bigger percentage of cap than what has historically been given out to fringe NHLers, bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenders.

These kids watched as LE sat in the box for 6 million a year, Beagle made 3 million a year playing 10 minutes. Sutter being paid 4.25 million playing bottom 6 and PK. Myers and Edler making big money while not producing near to the same extent as Hughes.

And people are mad that these kids want to be making a fair wage when comparable to not only the canucks contracts in the benning era, but what is being given out around the league in the last 6 months.

everyone just needs to relax.

- Codes1087


I don't know how you can compare a 8 year to a bridge deal?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 29 @ 2:30 PM ET

- boonerbuck

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 29 @ 2:32 PM ET


Can’t believe how triggered people are getting over all this.

- 1970vintage

Yeah, whether they sign or not if doesn't effect the average fan's life.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:34 PM ET
I don't know how you can compare a 8 year to a bridge deal?
- boonerbuck


i dont know why everyone is talking about a bridge deal. Is that what is being speculated in here or online? I haven't heard anything about it. I am just using a comparable player who just signed an extension with his team.

These things take time. Good players get paid.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
Yeah, whether they sign or not if doesn't effect the average fan's life.
- A_SteamingLombardi


100%

Hockey is still being played. These players will still be locks to make the team when they do sign. Holdouts happen every year with higher profile players. Everything will be fine.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
For comparison, Andrei Svechnikov signed an 8 year 7.75 AAV contract extension. Petey has more points (13) in less games (50) playing with way less talented players on a way poopter team.

whats even more hilarious is the anger and hysteria revolving around 2 core players, who may not be worth what they are holding out for, but are definitely worth a bigger percentage of cap than what has historically been given out to fringe NHLers, bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenders.

These kids watched as LE sat in the box for 6 million a year, Beagle made 3 million a year playing 10 minutes. Sutter being paid 4.25 million playing bottom 6 and PK. Myers and Edler making big money while not producing near to the same extent as Hughes.

And people are mad that these kids want to be making a fair wage when comparable to not only the canucks contracts in the benning era, but what is being given out around the league in the last 6 months.

everyone just needs to relax.

- Codes1087

So, what you're saying is that it's Bennings fault.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
Frank Seravalli on SN960: "Not suggesting that he doesn't want to be in Calgary, but my understanding is Johnny Gaudreau wants to be paid and wants to be paid quite well for his services".
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Sep 29 @ 2:43 PM ET
i dont know why everyone is talking about a bridge deal. Is that what is being speculated in here or online? I haven't heard anything about it. I am just using a comparable player who just signed an extension with his team.

These things take time. Good players get paid.

- Codes1087


I mean you just quoted someone who said 8 per on a bridge deal and then said "for comparison".

I've been saying the same thing though. We don't know and I use the BS Rick D peddled for Brock as an example of how things get turned around.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
So, what you're saying is that it's Bennings fault.
- Marwood


not at all.

The market is absolutely bonkers with the Jones/Svech/Kiprizov/Hyman signings. The only ones that have made sense to me in the last 6 months is Beauliveir, Yamomoto and Robert Thomas.

I am just not surprised its taking so long given what the market value for players who produce points is set to right now.


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:46 PM ET
I mean you just quoted someone who said 8 per on a bridge deal and then said "for comparison".

I've been saying the same thing though. We don't know and I use the BS Rick D peddled for Brock as an example of how things get turned around.

- boonerbuck


well even if it isn't a bridge deal, we know what the market comparable is for a long term with Petterson (Svechnikov). I also do not understand why anyone would want to bridge deal a superstar in pettersson either. You want to lock those players up long term ASAP. If its 8x8 for pettersson I do it any day of the week over any bridge deal.

For Hughes, we know (to a lesser extent) what the market comparable is in Makar and Parakyo for long term, and what short term is with the Dahlin signing.

I honestly dont listen to what is being speculated in the media because in the end its all fluff. The agents and Benning are working on it daily, as what is being reported by the Canucks, so I have faith it will get done.

Again, regardless of whether its long term or bridge, it will get done and these players will play
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
For comparison, Andrei Svechnikov signed an 8 year 7.75 AAV contract extension. Petey has more points (13) in less games (50) playing with way less talented players on a way poopter team.

whats even more hilarious is the anger and hysteria revolving around 2 core players, who may not be worth what they are holding out for, but are definitely worth a bigger percentage of cap than what has historically been given out to fringe NHLers, bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenders.

These kids watched as LE sat in the box for 6 million a year, Beagle made 3 million a year playing 10 minutes. Sutter being paid 4.25 million playing bottom 6 and PK. Myers and Edler making big money while not producing near to the same extent as Hughes.

And people are mad that these kids want to be making a fair wage when comparable to not only the canucks contracts in the benning era, but what is being given out around the league in the last 6 months.

everyone just needs to relax.

- Codes1087

How is Sevchnikov’s 8 year contract a comparable for Elias’s bridge? I don’t follow. A fair wage, LMFAO
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
How is Sevchnikov’s 8 year contract a comparable for Elias’s bridge? I don’t follow. A fair wage, LMFAO
- CanuckDon


again, I dont understand why everyone is talking bridge contracts with both/either players. I dont follow what is being said online, so if thats the case, than thats my fault for not being in the know. I personally wouldn't want to bridge either player, as I think they are both cornerstone players of the franchise. You dont have to agree and thats fine. I am more so commenting on the general outcry and anger over something that happens every year and generally with higher profile players. Holdouts happen.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 29 @ 2:59 PM ET
again, I dont understand why everyone is talking bridge contracts with both/either players. I dont follow what is being said online, so if thats the case, than thats my fault for not being in the know. I personally wouldn't want to bridge either player, as I think they are both cornerstone players of the franchise. You dont have to agree and thats fine. I am more so commenting on the general outcry and anger over something that happens every year and generally with higher profile players. Holdouts happen.
- Codes1087

If I recall correctly, Benning has gone on record saying that they've discussed both short and long term deals
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