again, I dont understand why everyone is talking bridge contracts with both/either players. I dont follow what is being said online, so if thats the case, than thats my fault for not being in the know. I personally wouldn't want to bridge either player, as I think they are both cornerstone players of the franchise. You dont have to agree and thats fine. I am more so commenting on the general outcry and anger over something that happens every year and generally with higher profile players. Holdouts happen.
- Codes1087

Most people agree with long term for Petey, bridge for Hughes as far as term goes.

If I recall correctly, Benning has gone on record saying that they've discussed both short and long term deals
- Nucker101

exactly

if i recall, agents have said both have been discussed as well

Most people agree with long term for Petey, bridge for Hughes as far as term goes.
- boonerbuck

Benning knows these guys better than we do, I'm sure he'll give out the right term for both of them

- boonerbuck

😂. That’s creepy 🥴🥴

Most people agree with long term for Petey, bridge for Hughes as far as term goes.
- boonerbuck

Bridge contracts are worrisome because you know that player is most likely going to get a higher AAV after the bridge than what he would if he signed long term.

Brocks QO is going to be over 7 million, and I know a ton of people in here don't think hes worth that.

If Elias see's that Svechnikov got 8 x 7.75 aav, where Elias got more points in 50 less games, why on earth would he sign a bridge deal for less money when he knows he can make that right off the bat. ( I don't think Elias is confident enough, given his injury history, that he will be worth more than 8 million AAV after a bridge anyway)

I think the biggest thing here, is that given we have seen both bridge and long term deals given out during this massive market inflation of contracts, its not abnormal to see these go so late into preseason. They will get signed and play this year.

Benning knows these guys better than we do, I'm sure he'll give out the right term for both of them
- Nucker101

i also think that this hamonic situation has an effect on things. If by Friday Hamonic opts out, thats an extra 3 million off the books, which could potentially sway a signing from a bridge to a long term contract or vice versa. No doubt both parties are wanting to know the outcome of that situation and how it effects the cap this year and moving forward.

i also think that this hamonic situation has an effect on things. If by Friday Hamonic opts out, thats an extra 3 million off the books, which could potentially sway a signing from a bridge to a long term contract or vice versa. No doubt both parties are wanting to know the outcome of that situation and how it effects the cap this year and moving forward.
- Codes1087

Benning knows these guys better than we do, I'm sure he'll give out the right term for both of them
- Nucker101

Do you ever throw up in your mouth when you post stuff like this?

Do you ever throw up in your mouth when you post stuff like this?
- Marwood

i also think that this hamonic situation has an effect on things. If by Friday Hamonic opts out, thats an extra 3 million off the books, which could potentially sway a signing from a bridge to a long term contract or vice versa. No doubt both parties are wanting to know the outcome of that situation and how it effects the cap this year and moving forward.
- Codes1087

Gawd I hope not.

16 mil is enough to sign both of them.

Also Brocks qualifying offer would be 7.5 next year . He basically signed a bridge deal 3 years ago for 6 mil . If he signed a long term 3 years ago he would have got 7.5 back then so we basically saved for three years. He has proven he is worth the raise and we should have no problem giving him 8 mil next year.

Benning knows these guys better than we do, I'm sure he'll give out the right term for both of them
- Nucker101

Gawd I hope not.

16 mil is enough to sign both of them.

Also Brocks qualifying offer would be 7.5 next year . He basically signed a bridge deal 3 years ago for 6 mil . If he signed a long term 3 years ago he would have got 7.5 back then so we basically saved for three years. He has proven he is worth the raise and we should have no problem giving him 8 mil next year.
- VANTEL

I wouldn't be surprised if it has influence.

I know we all like Hamonic, but I see it as a blessing in disguise from a cap perspective. The more money annually available, the more likely we can sign both players to long term contracts (which to me, is most preferable).

Its scary to think what is going to happen when Podkolzin, Hoglander, Rathbone all need new contracts, and Boeser, Horvat, Miller need/want extensions. The longer we can lock up our superstars for less of a cap hit, the better IMO

Bridge contracts are worrisome because you know that player is most likely going to get a higher AAV after the bridge than what he would if he signed long term.

Brocks QO is going to be over 7 million, and I know a ton of people in here don't think hes worth that.

If Elias see's that Svechnikov got 8 x 7.75 aav, where Elias got more points in 50 less games, why on earth would he sign a bridge deal for less money when he knows he can make that right off the bat. ( I don't think Elias is confident enough, given his injury history, that he will be worth more than 8 million AAV after a bridge anyway)

I think the biggest thing here, is that given we have seen both bridge and long term deals given out during this massive market inflation of contracts, its not abnormal to see these go so late into preseason. They will get signed and play this year.
- Codes1087

Problem is, players that hold out and sign at or near the end of the preseason tend to have massive slow starts compared to their teammates and being that they're supposed to carry the load this year, that's not going to bode well for us considering we'd need a really good start and book as many wins as we can before the schedule starts to eat away at us and we fall back to earth if we want a shot at making the playoffs.

Boeser was a perfect example of this, he signed just before the end of preseason and ended up having a down year because he was so far behind the rest of the team in terms of readiness and preparation.

I wouldn't be surprised if it has influence.

I know we all like Hamonic, but I see it as a blessing in disguise from a cap perspective. The more money annually available, the more likely we can sign both players to long term contracts (which to me, is most preferable).
- Codes1087

I respect your point of view but all this overpaying by all teams is going to bite them in the ass in two years.

First of all I heard again today by Dahliwal saying Canucks will be looking at Demers to replace TH.

These two players are very good players but they are not Superstars (at least not yet) Hughes is not Dahlin and just because Avs and Stars grossly overpaid their young Dmen does not mean we have to also.

For comparison, Andrei Svechnikov signed an 8 year 7.75 AAV contract extension. Petey has more points (13) in less games (50) playing with way less talented players on a way poopter team.

whats even more hilarious is the anger and hysteria revolving around 2 core players, who may not be worth what they are holding out for, but are definitely worth a bigger percentage of cap than what has historically been given out to fringe NHLers, bottom 6 forwards and bottom pairing defenders.

These kids watched as LE sat in the box for 6 million a year, Beagle made 3 million a year playing 10 minutes. Sutter being paid 4.25 million playing bottom 6 and PK. Myers and Edler making big money while not producing near to the same extent as Hughes.

And people are mad that these kids want to be making a fair wage when comparable to not only the canucks contracts in the benning era, but what is being given out around the league in the last 6 months.

everyone just needs to relax.
- Codes1087

👍👍

Problem is, players that hold out and sign at or near the end of the preseason tend to have massive slow starts compared to their teammates and being that they're supposed to carry the load this year, that's not going to bode well for us considering we'd need a really good start and book as many wins as we can before the schedule starts to eat away at us and we fall back to earth if we want a shot at making the playoffs.

Boeser was a perfect example of this, he signed just before the end of preseason and ended up having a down year because he was so far behind the rest of the team in terms of readiness and preparation.
- DariusKnight

Very true, I think this is where a lot of the fans' frustration truly stems from

I respect your point of view but all this overpaying by all teams is going to bite them in the ass in two years.

First of all I heard again today by Dahliwal saying Canucks will be looking at Demers to replace TH.

These two players are very good players but they are not Superstars (at least not yet) Hughes is not Dahlin and just because Avs and Stars grossly overpaid their young Dmen does not mean we have to also.
- VANTEL

Oilers overpaid too, I like Nurse but yowza

Oilers overpaid too, I like Nurse but yowza
- Nucker101

They are in cap trouble today and will be even more so each year after during the flat cap

again, I dont understand why everyone is talking bridge contracts with both/either players. I dont follow what is being said online, so if thats the case, than thats my fault for not being in the know. I personally wouldn't want to bridge either player, as I think they are both cornerstone players of the franchise. You dont have to agree and thats fine. I am more so commenting on the general outcry and anger over something that happens every year and generally with higher profile players. Holdouts happen.
- Codes1087

Because the dollar figure goes up on long term deals and the Canucks don’t have the cap space this year to accommodate that. If EP40 signs an eight year deal it’s going to be for 9 million and Q. Hughes would cost 8 million (guessing)…Canucks don’t have 17 million in room.

Unless Hammerhead quits?

Because the dollar figure goes up on long term deals and the Canucks do t have the cap space this year to accommodate that. If EP40 signs an eight year deal it’s going to be for 9 million and Q. Hughes would cost 8 million (guessing)…Canucks don’t have 17 million in room.

Unless Hammerhead quits?
- LeftCoaster

Most people agree with long term for Petey, bridge for Hughes as far as term goes.
- boonerbuck

👍

They are in cap trouble today and will be even more so each year after during the flat cap
- VANTEL

Another first round exit or worse and McDavid might want out

Another first round exit or worse and McDavid might want out
- Nucker101

Might?

Grizzly attack in the Bulkley Valley. Granisle. Not far from where the famous "Phantom of Hungry Hill" was.

Because the dollar figure goes up on long term deals and the Canucks do t have the cap space this year to accommodate that. If EP40 signs an eight year deal it’s going to be for 9 million and Q. Hughes would cost 8 million (guessing)…Canucks don’t have 17 million in room.

Unless Hammerhead quits?
- LeftCoaster

that was my point in the blessing in disguise post.

I think if you can lock these players down with term and a more reasonable cap hit, than bridge them and be forced into paying them higher AAV when they are older than if you long term signed them early, the better

I would rather Pay Peter 8 or 9 million aav when he is 26 or 27 than 31 or 32.