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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 10:30 AM ET
I’ve never thought we were worse off than other teams. Just seems that way because it’s happening to us. I have heard it said that players now train non stop all year whereas in the olden days they’d take time off snd use the training camp to get into shape. The new players are more fit no question but it may take a toll.
- Hextall271

Good video on Patrick Kane a few years back, switched his workout regimen and does basically no weight training. All elasticity and band training for flexibility. Even was playing at a lower weight and he’s been healthy as ever and lighting it up.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 30 @ 10:33 AM ET
Hadn’t heart that. Thanks.

Of note. We should be practicing the shootout until they shut the lights off in the rink ffs.

- Hextall271


again!
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 30 @ 10:34 AM ET
Awful news on Allison and Laczynski. What is it with the Flyers prospects and severe injuries? I just don't get it.

- Letterkenney


Poor drafting by Hextall
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:35 AM ET
Good video on Patrick Kane a few years back, switched his workout regimen and does basically no weight training. All elasticity and band training for flexibility. Even was playing at a lower weight and he’s been healthy as ever and lighting it up.
- ClaudeFather


Yeah. What I read was that the theory was guys weren’t in as good a shape in terms of body fat. But they had some down time etc so they weren’t getting hurt as much.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:38 AM ET
again!
- Scoob


Tbh. I think they’re tried everything. Practice more. Don’t practice at all. Het gritty to take a shot. Hire a shaman and Use voodoo dolls etc.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
Poor drafting by Hextall
- corduroy


Egor is hurt now. Lbi
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 30 @ 10:53 AM ET
Good video on Patrick Kane a few years back, switched his workout regimen and does basically no weight training. All elasticity and band training for flexibility. Even was playing at a lower weight and he’s been healthy as ever and lighting it up.
- ClaudeFather


Wonder if he took a page out of Tom Brady’s book. Tom Brady has always been big into using resistance bands for training/conditioning. Always credited his muscle flexibility for staying healthy.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:55 AM ET
Wonder if he took a page out of Tom Brady’s book. Tom Brady has always been big into using resistance bands for training/conditioning. Always credited his muscle flexibility for staying healthy.
- arichardson22


Makes sense to me. I play goal and for a while as I hit my mid 30s I was getting lower body injuries a lot. Groin strains and the like. Someone showed me some yoga stretches and I do that before each game. It’s really helped as I’ve transitioned to a geriatric haha
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
Or. He could play 2nd pair and get better matchups and succeed, grow his confidence and help the team and sign an extension.

Wouldn’t the plan be to have Ellis run pp1. Yandle pp2 and the odd time we need him bring risto in for yandle?

- Hextall271


I am wondering what the predictions and expectations are on the defense by some of the fans. I personally wasn’t expecting Ristolainen to see any PP time this season unless we see injuries on the defense.

As I stated early this summer, I was actually hoping Provorov would play with Ristolainen. Not because I think Provorov and Ellis will be bad together. The exact opposite really because I believe that pair will carry most of the load. I think Sanheim and Ristolainen both have their issues. Ristolainen from what I’ve been told has ES issues and in my opinion, Sanheim is only going to be as good as the partner he’s paired with. So I am interested to see how good these two will be together for 82 games.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Sep 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Egor is hurt now. Lbi
- Hextall271

Ugh
Where did you hear?

Edit: NM. I saw it
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Hadn’t heart that. Thanks.

Of note. We should be practicing the shootout until they shut the lights off in the rink ffs.

- Hextall271

Yes, definitely a weakness that needs work for the Flyers!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:10 AM ET
Poor drafting by Hextall
- corduroy

are you joking?
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Sep 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
I don't get it. Ristolainen needs to have top PP time to have any value to a team. Philly picks him up and he could be lucky to be 4th for PP time after Yandle, Provorov, and Ellis. So he'll get defensive assignments, suck, and crater the team and his own career.
- DarthProbert

Did your magic 8ball tell you that? Because so far none of that has happened and he hasn't even skated yet
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:13 AM ET
A very early prediction; Brassard wins the 2nd line center, Laughton is 3C and Nate is 4C, Frost starts with the Phantoms on their top line with Ratcliff and Foerster.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
I am wondering what the predictions and expectations are on the defense by some of the fans. I personally wasn’t expecting Ristolainen to see any PP time this season unless we see injuries on the defense.

As I stated early this summer, I was actually hoping Provorov would play with Ristolainen. Not because I think Provorov and Ellis will be bad together. The exact opposite really because I believe that pair will carry most of the load. I think Sanheim and Ristolainen both have their issues. Ristolainen from what I’ve been told has ES issues and in my opinion, Sanheim is only going to be as good as the partner he’s paired with. So I am interested to see how good these two will be together for 82 games.

- SuperSchennBros

I think the Flyers top 4 will be one of the best in the entire league!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
A very early prediction; Brassard wins the 2nd line center, Laughton is 3C and Nate is 4C, Frost starts with the Phantoms on their top line with Ratcliff and Foerster.
- jd250

I hope not but I was hoping to see some predictions.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:15 AM ET
I think the Flyers top 4 will be one of the best in the entire league!
- jd250

I hope you’re right. I guess my logic is, everyone remembers Pronger with Carle and Timonen with Coburn. I guess I was hoping to see our to best defenders split.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:16 AM ET
A very early prediction; Brassard wins the 2nd line center, Laughton is 3C and Nate is 4C, Frost starts with the Phantoms on their top line with Ratcliff and Foerster.
- jd250


If it pans out that way so be it. Brassard had a solid game Tuesday. Frost needs to play a lot and some time in the a after being off all year might be what’s he needs
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:18 AM ET
I am wondering what the predictions and expectations are on the defense by some of the fans. I personally wasn’t expecting Ristolainen to see any PP time this season unless we see injuries on the defense.

As I stated early this summer, I was actually hoping Provorov would play with Ristolainen. Not because I think Provorov and Ellis will be bad together. The exact opposite really because I believe that pair will carry most of the load. I think Sanheim and Ristolainen both have their issues. Ristolainen from what I’ve been told has ES issues and in my opinion, Sanheim is only going to be as good as the partner he’s paired with. So I am interested to see how good these two will be together for 82 games.

- SuperSchennBros


I wouldn’t be surprised to see rr out there on the pp at some point. Either due to injury or maybe the pp goes into a swoon and needs a different look. I wouldn’t look at that as plan a or b. I think Ellis at pp1 and yandle pp2 to start snd see how it goes. If we’re super predictable it won’t matter.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think the Flyers top 4 will be one of the best in the entire league!
- jd250


If ellis elevates provys game to new heights and then rr and sanheim click we could be very good.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:20 AM ET
I wouldn’t be surprised to see rr out there on the pp at some point. Either due to injury or maybe the pp goes into a swoon and needs a different look. I wouldn’t look at that as plan a or b. I think Ellis at pp1 and yandle pp2 to start snd see how it goes. If we’re super predictable it won’t matter.
- Hextall271

I don’t think Ellis will play ahead of Yandle on the PP at all.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:21 AM ET
I hope you’re right. I guess my logic is, everyone remembers Pronger with Carle and Timonen with Coburn. I guess I was hoping to see our to best defenders split.
- SuperSchennBros

I really liked the way Ellis and Provey complimented each other last game, and the number 1 thing I will be watching tonight is to see how Sanheim and Risto play together, hoping for a similar chemistry and impact. Potentially this group has a higher ceiling than the previous top 4 you mentioned here.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:22 AM ET
I really liked the way Ellis and Provey complimented each other last game, and the number 1 thing I will be watching tonight is to see how Sanheim and Risto play together, hoping for a similar chemistry and impact. Potentially this group has the higher ceiling than the previous top 4 you mentioned here.
- jd250

Ristolainen found himself in a much better situation here, so there is no reason to believe he won’t be impactful here.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:23 AM ET
If ellis elevates provys game to new heights and then rr and sanheim click we could be very good.
- Hextall271

That's what I am hoping for also. In retrospect, I think the number one problem Provey had last year was he was trying to do too much because he was not sure what his partner would do or not do. This year he has a legitimate top defenseman to work with which means he can focus solely on his responsibility and his game.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 11:23 AM ET
Ristolainen found himself in a much better situation here, so there is no reason to believe he won’t be impactful here.
- SuperSchennBros

That's what I think as well, Risto is much better than what his advanced metrics portray.
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