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tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Oct 4 @ 10:31 AM ET
I am with you brother.. Chytil does nothing for me and IMO has been in the league long enough to know what you have in him
- mrn22


Yeah good idea, give up on 21 year old because he has been in the League for three seasons. You guys act like getting a 2nd line center is sooooo easy. I am sure if there was a deal out there that wasn't asking for both Lundqvist and Schnieder, Drury would have made a deal. I mean Dvorak cost a 1st and a Second, would you have been willing to pay that for a 25-year-old center who hasn't scored more than 40pts in his career?
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:32 AM ET
I still can't believe Drury did nothing to address the center position this summer
- TPC


They missed a big opportunity when they didnt go after Dvorak.

Hertl could still be in the mix, but it likely wont happen until December depending on how the team is playing.

I also would like to see the 3 team trade we made up here with NYR-VGK-BUF which lands us Karlsson and maybe Reilly Smith. I think this would leave the Rangers in the best possible position. Long term #2 C, rental veteral RW, pair of guys VERY familiar with Gallant's system.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:37 AM ET
Yeah good idea, give up on 21 year old because he has been in the League for three seasons. You guys act like getting a 2nd line center is sooooo easy. I am sure if there was a deal out there that wasn't asking for both Lundqvist and Schnieder, Drury would have made a deal. I mean Dvorak cost a 1st and a Second, would you have been willing to pay that for a 25-year-old center who hasn't scored more than 40pts in his career?
- tbreinold


I was waiting for someone to come out of the woodwork's and whine about Chytil's age, yadda yadda. Hes going on his fourth year in the league. If there is still no improvement in his game then we got what we got and its time to move on.

Prior to the 2018-19 season, would you have traded a 1st and a 2nd for Tomas Hertl?
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 4 @ 10:39 AM ET
Yeah good idea, give up on 21 year old because he has been in the League for three seasons. You guys act like getting a 2nd line center is sooooo easy. I am sure if there was a deal out there that wasn't asking for both Lundqvist and Schnieder, Drury would have made a deal. I mean Dvorak cost a 1st and a Second, would you have been willing to pay that for a 25-year-old center who hasn't scored more than 40pts in his career?
- tbreinold


I think they should have made that deal for Dvorak. Maybe they made an offer and Arizona picked the Canadiens offer. I watched some of the MTL preseason games and Dvorak looked great. Has a little bit of everything.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:46 AM ET
I think they should have made that deal for Dvorak. Maybe they made an offer and Arizona picked the Canadiens offer. I watched some of the MTL preseason games and Dvorak looked great. Has a little bit of everything.
- TC88


Thats exactly why I wanted him. Hes a swiss army knife with the potential for more.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Oct 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
I still can't believe Drury did nothing to address the center position this summer
- TPC

Don't think it was for lack of trying.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:56 AM ET
Don't think it was for lack of trying.
- Fenrir


First time GM in the league, being a former player and now figuring out that players are as much investments and assets as they are objects.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Oct 4 @ 11:03 AM ET
Don't think it was for lack of trying.
- Fenrir


So much this. I'm OK with Dvorak, but let's make no bones about it, offensively Strome has been one of the best 2C in this league since his arrival to the team. If we are going to trade major assets for a center, I want that guy to be better than Strome. I'm just not sure Dvorak fits that bill.
MeltingPlastic
New York Rangers
Location: outside philthadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.17.2007

Oct 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
Apparently Krav didn’t go with the team on the “team bonding” trip. Any other player I would say no big deal, but for him, don’t want him feeling isolated and then sitting in the press box opening night. Hopefully he’s learned from last year and can self motivate.
- TC88

Any reason why?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 4 @ 11:07 AM ET
So much this. I'm OK with Dvorak, but let's make no bones about it, offensively Strome has been one of the best 2C in this league since his arrival to the team. If we are going to trade major assets for a center, I want that guy to be better than Strome. I'm just not sure Dvorak fits that bill.
- 2sticks1puck

yet he has no trade value around the league, seems odd
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 4 @ 11:08 AM ET
Don't think it was for lack of trying.
- Fenrir


Agreed. It's easy to speculate nothing was done when there were no trades completed. But I doubt he completely ignored it. Most likely scenario there was just nothing to be done/available. Can't trade with a team that doesn't want to trade.
Also, Chytil, IMHO, is mis-characterized as a center. I believe that is his issue. He is not up for center responsibility. Develop him closer to a power forward winger and see how he goes.
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 4 @ 11:13 AM ET
Any reason why?
- MeltingPlastic


They said he has a minor lower body injury. Feel like it would have been good for him to be around the other guys even if he can’t fully participate. I’m sure they wanted him back getting treatment. On a positive note, the kid actually speaks solid English. Was very impressed by his interview last week.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 4 @ 11:20 AM ET
So much this. I'm OK with Dvorak, but let's make no bones about it, offensively Strome has been one of the best 2C in this league since his arrival to the team. If we are going to trade major assets for a center, I want that guy to be better than Strome. I'm just not sure Dvorak fits that bill.
- 2sticks1puck


yet he has no trade value around the league, seems odd
- TPC


Because not every team in the league has a Panarin for him to center. Lets not act all oblivious to the fact that Strome's numbers took a huge boost once Panarin got here.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 4 @ 11:21 AM ET
Agreed. It's easy to speculate nothing was done when there were no trades completed. But I doubt he completely ignored it. Most likely scenario there was just nothing to be done/available. Can't trade with a team that doesn't want to trade.
Also, Chytil, IMHO, is mis-characterized as a center. I believe that is his issue. He is not up for center responsibility. Develop him closer to a power forward winger and see how he goes.

- NYRCeph


Ive been saying this from the get-go. However, our problem is we have no space on the wings, especially not on the LW where he would normally be.
TC88
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.24.2020

Oct 4 @ 11:31 AM ET
Ive been saying this from the get-go. However, our problem is we have no space on the wings, especially not on the LW where he would normally be.
- aecliptic


Not sure who else has listened to Chytils interviews this preseason, but he is clearly lacking awareness. Asked multiple times what he worked on this summer and he says, “my shot” “goal scoring” “working out”. Not one word about face offs until asked directly and his answer was like, “oh that just happens as you get older”. He also says he only wants to play center and has only ever been a center. Not exactly what you want to hear from a kid going into a make or break year.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Oct 4 @ 11:35 AM ET
Because not every team in the league has a Panarin for him to center. Lets not act all oblivious to the fact that Strome's numbers took a huge boost once Panarin got here.
- aecliptic


They did, but it ignores all of those games before he got here, that Strome also produced. It isn't groundbreaking, but he put up 33 points in 63 games after his trade here... before Panarin.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 4 @ 11:35 AM ET
Not sure who else has listened to Chytils interviews this preseason, but he is clearly lacking awareness. Asked multiple times what he worked on this summer and he says, “my shot” “goal scoring” “working out”. Not one word about face offs until asked directly and his answer was like, “oh that just happens as you get older”. He also says he only wants to play center and has only ever been a center. Not exactly what you want to hear from a kid going into a make or break year.
- TC88

He just can't be a 3rd line center on a team trying to be a playoff team. Need more jam, defensive awareness and 2 way play from that spot. I was hoping he would be a 2nd line center by this point but he isn't there yet. Just don't know what to do with him.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Oct 4 @ 11:38 AM ET
I was waiting for someone to come out of the woodwork's and whine about Chytil's age, yadda yadda. Hes going on his fourth year in the league. If there is still no improvement in his game then we got what we got and its time to move on.

Prior to the 2018-19 season, would you have traded a 1st and a 2nd for Tomas Hertl?

- aecliptic




When your only argument is that he is young.. thats not a good sign lmao
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:39 AM ET
He just can't be a 3rd line center on a team trying to be a playoff team. Need more jam, defensive awareness and 2 way play from that spot. I was hoping he would be a 2nd line center by this point but he isn't there yet. Just don't know what to do with him.
- TPC

Send him down if his production hasn't improved.
If we lose him to waivers, oh well.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Oct 4 @ 11:41 AM ET
Send him down if his production hasn't improved.
If we lose him to waivers, oh well.

- Fenrir

Trade him in the package for Eichel and let Barron play 3rd line center till Eichel heals
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:42 AM ET
Trade him in the package for Eichel and let Barron play 3rd line center till Eichel heals
- TPC

Perfect scenario.

In all seriousness, if Chytil's numbers don't improve I'm fine with Barron earning that spot. Also, isn't that part of why we acquired Goodrow? If Chytil wants to only play center than he had better win draws.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 4 @ 11:44 AM ET
Perfect scenario.
- Fenrir



I believe the perfect scenario would be paying Barkov and not losing assets.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Oct 4 @ 11:45 AM ET
Perfect scenario.
- Fenrir


And one I could see working.
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Oct 4 @ 11:45 AM ET
He just can't be a 3rd line center on a team trying to be a playoff team. Need more jam, defensive awareness and 2 way play from that spot. I was hoping he would be a 2nd line center by this point but he isn't there yet. Just don't know what to do with him.
- TPC


He is just not the player the Rangers need ultimately. And if he is not flexible in adapting his game, he may play himself out of the league. Oh well. You win some, you lose some. But it would be bad for the Rangers to just keep playing him is "hopes" because he is "young".
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:46 AM ET
I believe the perfect scenario would be paying Barkov and not losing assets.
- JRR1285

As of now, still being pre-season and things can change, I don't see Chytil as an asset.
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