See my response to Cong. I'm no lawyer but it does say that salary counts against the cap in a situation "such that he is not playing and is not receiving Salary pursuant to that Long-Term Contract"
- Hank Balling

"When players are suspended for on-ice events, this is considered "supplemental discipline" and their cap hit still counts against the cap while they're suspended. When they're suspended for off-ice events, like with Austin Watson (domestic violence) and Nate Schmidt (failed drug test), they do not count against the Cap during their suspension (CBA Section 50.10.c)."

Think about the level of pathetic this discussion is regarding the Sabres organization, that we're trying to figure out if they can suspend the best player they've had in a decade or risk being penalized for being below the cap floor.

Horrible!
- kingcong39

Buffalo Sabres
Last season: 15-34-7, -62 true goals differential, finished dead last.

Their offseason in one sentence: They traded Sam Reinhart and Rasmus Ristolainen for futures but did not trade Jack Eichel, who still hasn’t had surgery and may not be moved anytime soon.

Why they’re here: They’re the Sabres. Look, I did the whole attempted optimism bit with these guys last week, so my credibility is already shot. With Eichel in limbo, no goaltending and yet another rebuild underway, no reasonable person thinks they’re going to be even vaguely competitive this year.


Thanks Sean.

"When players are suspended for on-ice events, this is considered "supplemental discipline" and their cap hit still counts against the cap while they're suspended. When they're suspended for off-ice events, like with Austin Watson (domestic violence) and Nate Schmidt (failed drug test), they do not count against the Cap during their suspension (CBA Section 50.10.c)."
- Lunaion

I don't see a clear definition regarding Eichel's scenario.

I don't see a clear definition regarding Eichel's scenario.
- TheSabresTaco

(c) For Players that are suspended, either by a Club or by the League, the Player
Salary and Bonuses that are not paid to such Players shall not count against a Club's Upper Limit
or against the Players' Share for the duration of the suspension, but the Club must have Payroll Room for such Player's Player Salary and Bonuses in order for such Player to be able to return to Play for the Club.

(c) For Players that are suspended, either by a Club or by the League, the Player
Salary and Bonuses that are not paid to such Players shall not count against a Club's Upper Limit
or against the Players' Share for the duration of the suspension, but the Club must have Payroll
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ARTICLE 50 50.10-50.10
Room for such Player's Player Salary and Bonuses in order for such Player to be able to return to
Play for the Club.
- Lunaion

So it wouldn't count against the upper limit but it doesn't mention the lower limit

When in CBA doubt, just wait for Lunaion to weigh in

So it wouldn't count against the upper limit but it doesn't mention the lower limit
- Hank Balling

You're reaching.

Buffalo Sabres
Last season: 15-34-7, -62 true goals differential, finished dead last.

Their offseason in one sentence: They traded Sam Reinhart and Rasmus Ristolainen for futures but did not trade Jack Eichel, who still hasn’t had surgery and may not be moved anytime soon.

Why they’re here: They’re the Sabres. Look, I did the whole attempted optimism bit with these guys last week, so my credibility is already shot. With Eichel in limbo, no goaltending and yet another rebuild underway, no reasonable person thinks they’re going to be even vaguely competitive this year.


Thanks Sean.
- TheSabresTaco

riddle me this, batman!

if losing to win (2013-15) equals a losing record and losing to wing again (2017-18) equals a losing record again, what does losing to win once again (2021-22) equal?

So it wouldn't count against the upper limit but it doesn't mention the lower limit
- Hank Balling

do they have any reason to suspend him other than financial considerations?...i mean they'll need to pay someone that money to get to the cap floor and if they're hell-bent on tanking, why bring in outsiders to get to the floor when you're there already with eichel on the team

You're reaching.
- Lunaion

legally speaking, if it's not legally defined, it's ambiguous, which means it's open to interpretation. I wouldn't call it a reach.

do they have any reason to suspend him other than financial considerations?...i mean they'll need to pay someone that money to get to the cap floor and if they're hell-bent on tanking, why bring in outsiders to get to the floor when you're there already with eichel on the team
- Michael Pachla

Suspending him would be personal and to save Terry upwards of 10 million doll hairs.

Suspending him would be personal and to save Terry upwards of 10 million doll hairs.
- TheSabresTaco

He's going to need all the money he can salvage.

He's going to need all the money he can salvage.
- DirtyDan

That yacht aint gona build itself.

Suspending him would be personal and to save Terry upwards of 10 million doll hairs.
- TheSabresTaco

i get that, but what i was trying to point out is that they'll need to pay other people some $7M to get to the cap floor if they suspend jack and his $10m doesn't count...

that's about a $3m difference

He's going to need all the money he can salvage.
- DirtyDan

why?...he can just drill another well

legally speaking, if it's not legally defined, it's ambiguous, which means it's open to interpretation. I wouldn't call it a reach.
- TheSabresTaco

This isn't really a legal matter. It's the league's interpretation that matters. Countless examples of memorandums of understanding to clarify things. In this case, there's more places to look, but the essence of that section says "if you don't pay him, he doesn't count towards the cap".

At least teh Sabres are not the jags currently.

This Urban Meyer situation is absolutely fascinating.

Couldnt happen to a better guy though.

why?...he can just drill another well
- Michael Pachla

Does he till own the Oil business?

At least teh Sabres are not the jags currently.

This Urban Meyer situation is absolutely fascinating.

Couldnt happen to a better guy though.
- ImThatGuy

I don't see anything wrong with dancing with a pretty woman... Is he suppose to be a robot?

Jags looked great in the first half against Cincy.. then collapsed

I don't see anything wrong with dancing with a pretty woman... Is he suppose to be a robot?
- DirtyDan

lying about.

not flying back with the team so he could stay in Ohio to party.

cancelling team meetings to not have to face the players.


also fack Urban Meyer.


Also also, look up what Michael silver just tweeted. The Jags players think Meyer is a joke.

I don't see anything wrong with dancing with a pretty woman... Is he suppose to be a robot?

Jags looked great in the first half against Cincy.. then collapsed
- DirtyDan

Urb's wife might have a small issue with that, but then again, maybe not.

Urb's wife might have a small issue with that, but then again, maybe not.
- kingcong39

Jaguars owner Shad Khan said head coach Urban Meyer's conduct last week at an Ohio bar was "inexcusable."
Khan said he "addressed" the controversial social media video with Meyer, who must now "regain our trust and respect." Khan has chosen to extend the franchise's nightmarish melodrama. It appears Meyer has avoided the pink slip -- for now. Meyer, per reports from Sports Illustrated's Mike Silver, may have already lost the Jaguars locker room. Players told Silver that Meyer has "zero credibility" among the team and that players laughed at his awkward apology for being caught on camera getting cozy with a much younger woman in a bar following the team's Week 4 loss to the Bengals. Silver reported players "were particularly put off by the fact that Meyer canceled Monday's team meeting" while he dealt with the fallout of his latest controversy. Meyer's chances of finishing the season as the Jags' head coach are markedly worse today than they were yesterday.

lying about.

not flying back with the team so he could stay in Ohio to party.

cancelling team meetings to not have to face the players.


also fack Urban Meyer.


Also also, look up what Michael silver just tweeted. The Jags players think Meyer is a joke.
- ImThatGuy

Truue, Didn't know about the cancelling of meetings

Michael Lombardi reports the Jaguars have held "many closed-door meetings ... over the last two days in the football offices and none of them have anything to do with the Titans."
It's likely Urban Meyer's disastrous eight months as Jacksonville's head coach, capped off by an embarrassing video of Meyer in an Ohio bar last week, prompted the closed-door discussions. Meyer offered a muted apology on Monday for the video, which caught fire on social media and raised questions about Meyer not traveling with the Jaguars after a Thursday night loss to the Bengals. Sports Illustrated's Mike Silver quoted an anonymous player Monday who said Meyer "has zero credibility in that stadium. He had very little to begin with." Maybe Jaguars brass wants more contrition from their head coach, or maybe they're ready to cut ties in a decidedly failed experiment. The ensuing chaos of Meyer's potential departure would surely trickle down to the team's players, many of whom complained about Meyers' tactics this summer.

Per Roto World

Jaguars owner Shad Khan said head coach Urban Meyer's conduct last week at an Ohio bar was "inexcusable."
Khan said he "addressed" the controversial social media video with Meyer, who must now "regain our trust and respect." Khan has chosen to extend the franchise's nightmarish melodrama. It appears Meyer has avoided the pink slip -- for now. Meyer, per reports from Sports Illustrated's Mike Silver, may have already lost the Jaguars locker room. Players told Silver that Meyer has "zero credibility" among the team and that players laughed at his awkward apology for being caught on camera getting cozy with a much younger woman in a bar following the team's Week 4 loss to the Bengals. Silver reported players "were particularly put off by the fact that Meyer canceled Monday's team meeting" while he dealt with the fallout of his latest controversy. Meyer's chances of finishing the season as the Jags' head coach are markedly worse today than they were yesterday.
- SABRES 89

AKA, he's in year 1 of a 6 year 36+ million dollar deal and Kahn would have to pay him a lot of money to fire him.