The one off his mask?
- NC Flyers Fan

The one off of Swayman's mask was a chance by Elliot Desnoyers from the slot, not Frost. That was a very lucky save.

I don't see it from him, sorry. He is playing the same way now as he did before he got injured. I didn't see "it" in him then, and I don't see "it" in him now. I hope I am wrong, because as I posted previously, the Flyers cannot afford to miss on another 1st round pick, especially one that they gave up real value to obtain.
- jd250

They gave up picks to move up and grab ratcliffe that draft also, and grabbed patrick that draft. That whole draft could be a bust.

I have not seen him in person this year, so can’t speak to 100% of his game right now, but I would say playing center and having to battle in his own end is hurting him offensively. To start a tough shift in your own end and then have enough air in your lungs to play w a purpose in the offensive zone is not easy. Maybe he just needs to get his legs under him at NHL speed….

What I do know is he is not driving play offensively. I’m sure that will come, but as of now he is not ready to play in this league and be relied on for offense. Sorry. Not at center. Let him find his game at wing for now if we must start him in the NHL much in the same way G started.

I’d start him in the AHL if he must play center right now. Other than some folks feeling a little sore cause they predicted he must win a job out of camp, what is the downside?
- Joe Nardone

This is well said Joe and to me the most realistic option. If Frost must be a center that we believe has the capability to play in the top 6, he should be starting on the Phantoms to get his game back, especially his offensive confidence. If he must play center and must be in the NHL, then put him on the 4th line and let him earn his ice time. This of course leaves a gaping hole in the lineup until Hayes comes back, and if so I would fill it by moving G to 2C or 3C for the time being.

They gave up picks to move up and grab ratcliffe that draft also, and grabbed patrick that draft. That whole draft could be a bust.
- bradster

This is a possibility that some on this forum will have a hard time coming to grips with, because it points directly to the person making the picks!

The one off of Swayman's mask was a chance by Elliot Desnoyers from the slot, not Frost. That was a very lucky save.
- jd250

Yes, that was the one that Swayman looked so happy and relieved after. Who passed it to him?

This is a possibility that some on this forum will have a hard time coming to grips with, because it points directly to the person making the picks!
- jd250

Im still hoping frost is going to be a 2C, but time is coming up for that

Really? Frost skated hard and got the tip of this stick on the pass from Lindblom and flipped the puck into Swayman's chest. Not a hard save and not a dangerous shot.
- jd250

Swayman had to push over and made a good save. He made it look easy, but a good save. I didn't say great. It was Lindblom who dished it over. Of note, Swayman made a lot of tough saves look easy last night. Just because a shot hits you in the crest doesn't mean it wasn't a good save.

I don't see it from him, sorry. He is playing the same way now as he did before he got injured. I didn't see "it" in him then, and I don't see "it" in him now. I hope I am wrong, because as I posted previously, the Flyers cannot afford to miss on another 1st round pick, especially one that they gave up real value to obtain.
- jd250

No he's not playing the same way now as he did before he got injured. His offensive game was much better then. Any talk now of missing on Frost after playing 3 pre season games after missing a full season is ridiculously premature. Something else someone with GM level evaluation skills would never do.

Swayman had to push over and made a good save. He made it look easy, but a good save. I didn't say great. It was Lindblom who dished it over. Of note, Swayman made a lot of tough saves look easy last night. Just because a shot hits you in the crest doesn't mean it wasn't a good save.
- Hextall271

You are absolutely right about this. Swayman looks very good.

Really? Frost skated hard and got the tip of this stick on the pass from Lindblom and flipped the puck into Swayman's chest. Not a hard save and not a dangerous shot.
- jd250

Frost got good wood on shot. Any time you get a shot on goal from that in tight at the net, it's a quality scoring chance and a dangerous play.

No he's not playing the same way now as he did before he got injured. His offensive game was much better then. Any talk now of missing on Frost after playing 3 pre season games after missing a full season is ridiculously premature. Something else someone with GM level evaluation skills would never do.
- MJL

I NEVER said we missed on Frost, I only accept that is a possibility that this team cannot afford. Stop putting words in my posts that are not there!

This is well said Joe and to me the most realistic option. If Frost must be a center that we believe has the capability to play in the top 6, he should be starting on the Phantoms to get his game back, especially his offensive confidence. If he must play center and must be in the NHL, then put him on the 4th line and let him earn his ice time. This of course leaves a gaping hole in the lineup until Hayes comes back, and if so I would fill it by moving G to 2C or 3C for the time being.
- jd250

In my opinion, the move to make would be to elevate Laughton from the 4th line to center a line in the top 9. Leaving Giroux at LW. Laughton is too good for the 4th line anyway.

Im still hoping frost is going to be a 2C, but time is coming up for that
- bradster

I hope he can be an nhl player. I can see him getting traded without a doubt. The gm has no ties to him at all.

Frost got good wood on shot. Any time you get a shot on goal from that in tight at the net, it's a quality scoring chance and a dangerous play.
- MJL

Maybe in the advanced metrics world that's a dangerous chance, but not in the world of reality!

This is a possibility that some on this forum will have a hard time coming to grips with, because it points directly to the person making the picks!
- jd250

This is hysterical. What is going to happen if some of the moves that your hero Chuck Fletcher made don't work out? I've never seen so many extremes between your posting before the season and the overreactions from a few pre season games.

Maybe in the advanced metrics world that's a dangerous chance, but not in the world of reality!
- jd250

Yes, in reality. That's how goals are scored in this league. Around and at the net.

In my opinion, the move to make would be to elevate Laughton from the 4th line to center a line in the top 9. Leaving Giroux at LW. Laughton is too good for the 4th line anyway.
- MJL

Yes, that is a good option as well. But this means Brassard is playing 2C; not the worst option but I was thinking G at 2C might be a better one.

I NEVER said we missed on Frost, I only accept that is a possibility that this team cannot afford. Stop putting words in my posts that are not there!
- jd250

No one put any words in your mouth. You absolutely talked about the possibility. You are putting words into my mount by saying that I said that you said they missed on Frost.

Yes, in reality. That's how goals are scored in this league. Around and at the net.
- MJL

Of course, but Frost did not get enough on it or was not in enough control to make it a true dangerous chance. Look I'm not saying the kid did anything wrong, he hustled up the ice and made something out of nothing, so that is good. I am only saying what he made was not a dangerous chance because he was not able to control the puck, get anything on it and Swayman was in position (good for him) to swallow it up. I also agree based on what I saw last year and this pre-season, plus his track record in college, that Swayman is the real deal. Once he tempers his aggression in terms of knowing when to challenge and when not to, Swayman will be the number 1 in Boston. Don't expect Tuukka to be returning to Boston this year unless Swayman gets injured between now and the new year.

I hope he can be an nhl player. I can see him getting traded without a doubt. The gm has no ties to him at all.
- hello it's me 2050

Agreed, the issue is he isn't worth alot right now in a trade. And we'd need a center back.

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No one put any words in your mouth. You absolutely talked about the possibility. You are putting words into my mount by saying that I said that you said they missed on Frost.

- MJL

You absolutely implied it based on the last sentence of your post! Let's not back track now.

Of course, but Frost did not get enough on it or was not in enough control to make it a true dangerous chance. Look I'm not saying the kid did anything wrong, he hustled up the ice and made something out of nothing, so that is good. I am only saying what he made was not a dangerous chance because he was not able to control the puck, get anything on it and Swayman was in position (good for him) to swallow it up. I also agree based on what I saw last year and this pre-season, plus his track record in college, that Swayman is the real deal. Once he tempers his aggression in terms of knowing when to challenge and when not to, Swayman will be the number 1 in Boston. Don't expect Tuukka to be returning to Boston this year unless Swayman gets injured between now and the new year.
- jd250

It was most surely a dangerous chance no matter how you look at it. He DID get good wood on it and Swayman made a very good save to stop it. Plays like that happen all the time in the NHL and every single one is a dangerous chance.

You absolutely implied it based on the last sentence of your post! Let's not back track now.
- jd250

its true

This is hysterical. What is going to happen if some of the moves that your hero Chuck Fletcher made don't work out? I've never seen so many extremes between your posting before the season and the overreactions from a few pre season games.
- MJL

It is possible Frost is a bust, and the fact that you will not even acknowledge it tells everyone how biased you are and also how far up Hextall's butt you are!

There are no extremes. If Fletcher's moves don't work out, I will not only be extremely disappointed, but I will also be the first one to point it out. I said all along that Fletcher's entire career as a GM will be judged by this off season and I still believe that is true. I am happy with the moves he made, in fact I happy he made moves at all, but extremely happy with the number of moves and the quality of the players he brought in. I think he did a good job and tried his best in a very difficult environment. However, if the moves don't work out, its on Fletcher, no one else.

But the chances of this happening are low. Already you can see how good Ellis is, and how much better Provorov is because of the chemistry the two have found. We have also seen how well Risto plays the game and what he adds to the team, and we have already seen how much better the PK is when Atkinson is out there. I don't expect these key moves will come back to bite Fletcher.