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Angotti
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Oct 6 @ 11:47 AM ET
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- Ogilthorpe2

Ha ha, I know you’re a big fan of Nylander, but we shouldn’t give him away for free. There are teams out there that will take a chance for a 3rd.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Oct 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
I would much rather see Hardman or Entwhistle on the team over Nylander or Connley or even Strome . Both those players play with Heart and I can live with their mistakes much easier .
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
Arizona wants nothing to do with Kessel. His caphit is $6.8mil. but only $1 mil. in actual dollars.

Trade Strome, Nylander, Connolly, and Subban to Arizona for one year of Kessell. Solves all the Hawks roster problems, for this year.

- LAHawk

While acquiring Kessel may prove to be a good idea and add additional scoring there’s one small issue, Kessel wants to play on a contender and has the clause in his contract giving him the say on where he goes.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Oct 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
Good morning Theo, thanks for the update. Guys, not sure Nylander makes it through waivers, with his potential, age, and cap hit, he will get plucked instantly.
- Angotti

We can only hope..... Let someone else deal with his lazy a$$
Angotti
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Oct 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
I would much rather see Hardman or Entwhistle on the team over Nylander or Connley or even Strome . Both those players play with Heart and I can live with their mistakes much easier .
- oldduffman

I’d like to see Entwistle on the team as well over these guys, but first moves need to be made. The best case scenario for the Hawks would be to add a good size, talented top six forward with some sandpaper, along with another top four Dman, easier said than done. T Johnson should be on the third line, that line with Kane and Dcat will be pinned in their own end for long periods. I believe that taking on Connolly so they could acquire Stillman and Borgy was a smart move, taking on Johnson’s cap hit for a 2nd and Seabrook’s contract is very questionable.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Connolly being waiver sets up an Eichel trade perfectly.

via GIPHY


- DarthKane

ADB, Dach, Reichel and two 3rds go the other way.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Oct 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
While acquiring Kessel may prove to be a good idea and add additional scoring there’s one small issue, Kessel wants to play on a contender and has the clause in his contract giving him the say on where he goes.
- paulr


Cap Friendly says his NTC has an 8 team trade list. As for Strome going back in any deal for Kessel, the Yotes already traded him, so it depends on how badly they want to make a trade happen. If no Strome, how does a deal get made (assuming the Hawks are on his list, of course)?
Angotti
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Oct 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
We can only hope..... Let someone else deal with his lazy a$$
- BGKarras

I don’t disagree, but I believe that you can get some kind of asset for him vs a waiver claim, I could be wrong, that’s just my opinion.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Oct 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Cap Friendly says his NTC has an 8 team trade list. As for Strome going back in any deal for Kessel, the Yotes already traded him, so it depends on how badly they want to make a trade happen. If no Strome, how does a deal get made (assuming the Hawks are on his list, of course)?
- 333inthe3rd

Not advocating either way with a suggested Strome trade to the Coyotes (find a buyer, any buyer, and get something reasonable in return) but the GM in Arizona is different now.

John Chayka was the one who traded Strome. He's no longer there and former Blues assistant GM Bill Armstrong is the GM now. Some different leadership -- and many would argue better leadership -- for the Coyotes today than the recent past.

Steve Sullivan was the interim GM between Chayka and Armstrong and even he got the eventual boot from Arizona.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Oct 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
I would much rather see Hardman or Entwhistle on the team over Nylander or Connley or even Strome . Both those players play with Heart and I can live with their mistakes much easier .
- oldduffman

Reese Johnson is having himself a solid training camp and is in the mix to at least be amongst one of the first recall candidates.

A 4th line of Johnson, Entwistle, and Hardman would be tough to play against as long as they played consistently in their own end.

Khaira would also get his reps given his 2-year deal.

Gaudette would need a spot, though, assuming he can't get into the top 9 due to others like Kurashev and Borgstrom securing roles there.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
Not advocating either way with a suggested Strome trade to the Coyotes (find a buyer, any buyer, and get something reasonable in return) but the GM in Arizona is different now.

John Chayka was the one who traded Strome. He's no longer there and former Blues assistant GM Bill Armstrong is the GM now. Some different leadership -- and many would argue better leadership -- for the Coyotes today than the recent past.

Steve Sullivan was the interim GM between Chayka and Armstrong and even he got the eventual boot from Arizona.

- Theo Fox


True, but the Hawks have history with Arizona (of course now they are in the same division, so might not be as anxious to trade with one another)

Hjarmallson-Murphy
Hossa-Entwhistle
Strome-Schmautz


kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Oct 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
llankien would have to go thru waivers. this is his 4th year.
Scott1977
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Oct 6 @ 1:07 PM ET
Reese Johnson is having himself a solid training camp and is in the mix to at least be amongst one of the first recall candidates.

A 4th line of Johnson, Entwistle, and Hardman would be tough to play against as long as they played consistently in their own end.

Khaira would also get his reps given his 2-year deal.

Gaudette would need a spot, though, assuming he can't get into the top 9 due to others like Kurashev and Borgstrom securing roles there.

- Theo Fox

I really liked the line of entwistle hagel gaudette but think hagel plays more of top 9 role so maybe entwistle gaudette hardman/kairia as the 4th line would be good.
So imo lines could look like this:
Towes kubalik kane
Dcat dach hagel
Borgstrom johnson kurashev
Hardman/kairia entwistle gaudette
This assuming nylander and strome are traded. Ottawa or buffalo make the most sense imo.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Oct 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
Kalynuk now confirmed to be out 2-4 weeks with a right ankle sprain.

Caleb Jones sitting out practice today due to left wrist soreness.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Oct 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
True, but the Hawks have history with Arizona (of course now they are in the same division, so might not be as anxious to trade with one another)

Hjarmallson-Murphy
Hossa-Entwhistle
Strome-Schmautz

- LAHawk

Anyone else catch the Red Wings announcer repeatedly say Entwistle came over in the Nick Schmaltz trade?
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Oct 6 @ 2:08 PM ET
Seems to me if Stan could find a partner for Strome or Nylander, they'd be gone already.

I'm afraid he's going to need to go the route of Connolly to rid himself of them.

That being said, I wouldn't mind either playing in the A. They are both still fairly young, and have talent, just don't seem to be aggressive enough. Seems like it would be better to try and find that in the A then taking minutes on the big club.

My biggest gripe about the rebuild is that the young guys you drafted or traded for, have never gone through the proper "over developing".

Guys should have been drafted, been captains on the college or OHL, WHL teams, gone to Rockford, played at least two years top minutes in the A. (the second year starring and showing they belong in the NHL)

Its how you go from a cup champion to making the transition/rebuild, back to a contender in a shorter period of time.

- vabeachbear

Maybe he's trying to get too much in return. If he's trying to get back into the first round next season by using those two, good luck to him. However, if he realizes that they won't get more than a 3rd or 4th, it would be better to get something rather than lose them for nothing.

As stated earlier (by Angotti?), due to his skill set and cap hit, Nylander would probably be claimed. Why not see if we can get a lottery ticket for him instead.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 6 @ 2:35 PM ET
Connolly's contract was the price for Stillman and Borgstrom. The front office had to know this was a likely scenario, seeing Connolly put on waivers and going unclaimed.

I don't know what they're waiting for with Strome. The Toews situation seems resolved, and I gathered he was the insurance policy (albeit a policy that pays out less than it should for a sidelined future Hall of Famer).

Given that Nylander missed last season, Darth's half-serious suggestion of a 7th in return might be closer to truth. If you think Nylander has a better chance of making it than the average 3rd rounder, if that's what other teams have offered, then keep him. This is a free lottery ticket. The reason to deal him or waive him, God forbid, is if there is someone being blocked in Rockford who absolutely has to be here now. Otherwise, I say figure out his upside for this year and beyond, then make plans one way or another.

- 333inthe3rd



You are 100% right about Connolly.

The Hawks straight up said last year that they were willing to take on some salary to gain assets and they did. It's paid off, they have some useful younger guys and if Connolly plays or not, it's going to work out about the same against the cap. They bury him, and the money saved is used up by a young player. They keep him on the roster and he doesn't really hurt the team all that much. He is serviceable in a limited role. If he gets claimed on waivers, they are off the hook.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
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Oct 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
Connolly cleared waivers. We'll see what happens next as far as reporting to Rockford.

Avalanche placed Sikura on waivers today.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
Connolly cleared waivers. We'll see what happens next as far as reporting to Rockford.

Avalanche placed Sikura on waivers today.

- Theo Fox


Shocking! On both accounts....haha. I'm too lazy to use Red Font.

35Tony0
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Oct 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
Connolly cleared waivers. We'll see what happens next as far as reporting to Rockford.

Avalanche placed Sikura on waivers today.

- Theo Fox

My best guess is Strome would also clear waivers should he be placed on them.
Rota's Rooter
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Oct 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
Shocking! On both accounts....haha. I'm too lazy to use Red Font.
- breadbag

Ogilthorpe2
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Oct 6 @ 3:11 PM ET
Maybe he's trying to get too much in return. If he's trying to get back into the first round next season by using those two, good luck to him. However, if he realizes that they won't get more than a 3rd or 4th, it would be better to get something rather than lose them for nothing.

As stated earlier (by Angotti?), due to his skill set and cap hit, Nylander would probably be claimed. Why not see if we can get a lottery ticket for him instead.

- tvetter

Well, there are those that believe that Stan has trouble with trades because he always wants to “win” the trade. These same people may or may not also be the same ones who believe that Kane is bad for the brand.
Ogilthorpe2
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Oct 6 @ 3:15 PM ET
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Just strolled past Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle. Still an army of people working on it less than a week before the season starts. They’d better get….


….Kraken?
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Oct 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Connolly cleared waivers. We'll see what happens next as far as reporting to Rockford.

Avalanche placed Sikura on waivers today.

- Theo Fox


Wasn't that guy a big TDL acquisition for the hawks?
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Oct 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
65523073896_ECD2D385-9A62-46F5-9E61-2513A26E77DA

Just strolled past Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle. Still an army of people working on it less than a week before the season starts. They’d better get….


….Kraken?

- Ogilthorpe2


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