Wasn't that guy a big TDL acquisition for the hawks?
- fattybeef

Sikura?

Just strolled past Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle. Still an army of people working on it less than a week before the season starts. They’d better get….


….Kraken?
- Ogilthorpe2

I worked in Seattle for a few years. Before they started all of this you could see into the building and we were in part of it for an event. I dunno how they were going to possibly get it ready for a professional sports team.

1. the parking there is non existent and that area getting traffic dumped on it from ~15,000 fans (im sure they don't all live in Queen Ann or Belltown) is no bueno
2. its an absolutely terrible area to get in and out of if you don't live within walking distance. Trying to get over from Cap hill let alone madrona would be a nightmare. Walking across town would be faster than an uber or public transportation during rush hour.
3. its a tourist trap area anyway with mopop and the space needle there so all the normal traffic + tourists + stadium crap there is going to be not fun for anyone
4. the building itself - was old and antiquated enough where it would have been better for everyone to have knocked it down, turned it into a garden and built a new stadium by the baseball and football ones like was originally proposed

Sikura?
- mohel

Yes

I worked in Seattle for a few years. Before they started all of this you could see into the building and we were in part of it for an event. I dunno how they were going to possibly get it ready for a professional sports team.

1. the parking there is non existent and that area getting traffic dumped on it from ~15,000 fans (im sure they don't all live in Queen Ann or Belltown) is no bueno
2. its an absolutely terrible area to get in and out of if you don't live within walking distance. Trying to get over from Cap hill let alone madrona would be a nightmare. Walking across town would be faster than an uber or public transportation during rush hour.
3. its a tourist trap area anyway with mopop and the space needle there so all the normal traffic + tourists + stadium crap there is going to be not fun for anyone
4. the building itself - was old and antiquated enough where it would have been better for everyone to have knocked it down, turned it into a garden and built a new stadium by the baseball and football ones like was originally proposed
- fattybeef

From what I hear, it’s really nice inside. They completely gutted it, dug it out farther below grade, and made everything state of the art. Supposedly the only remaining recognizable part of it is the roof structure. I have wondered about access though but it’s not my problem. The super Sonics made it work, I’m sure they’ll figure it out. The hotel I stay at fairly frequently is an easy walk. Hopefully I’ll get to stroll over for a game sometime soon.

I worked in Seattle for a few years. Before they started all of this you could see into the building and we were in part of it for an event. I dunno how they were going to possibly get it ready for a professional sports team.

1. the parking there is non existent and that area getting traffic dumped on it from ~15,000 fans (im sure they don't all live in Queen Ann or Belltown) is no bueno
2. its an absolutely terrible area to get in and out of if you don't live within walking distance. Trying to get over from Cap hill let alone madrona would be a nightmare. Walking across town would be faster than an uber or public transportation during rush hour.
3. its a tourist trap area anyway with mopop and the space needle there so all the normal traffic + tourists + stadium crap there is going to be not fun for anyone
4. the building itself - was old and antiquated enough where it would have been better for everyone to have knocked it down, turned it into a garden and built a new stadium by the baseball and football ones like was originally proposed
- fattybeef

Well #1 and #2 could describe Wrigley as well and they manage, but Wrigley does have public transportation.

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks cut training camp roster to 36, assigning these guys to Rockford:

Forwards: Andrei Altybarmakian, Brett Connolly, Jakub Pour, Lukas Reichel, Josiah Slavin, Michal Teply

Defensemen: Louis Crevier, Michael Krutil, Isaak Phillips
1:23 PM · Oct 6, 2021·TweetDeck

From what I hear, it’s really nice inside. They completely gutted it, dug it out farther below grade, and made everything state of the art. Supposedly the only remaining recognizable part of it is the roof structure. I have wondered about access though but it’s not my problem. The super Sonics made it work, I’m sure they’ll figure it out. The hotel I stay at fairly frequently is an easy walk. Hopefully I’ll get to stroll over for a game sometime soon.
- Ogilthorpe2

Which hotel? I always preferred the Sheraton. Loulay (which was connected but not affiliated) always had a good bartender. The walk over from downtown isn't bad but if you have to go up the hill it is kind of obnoxious and driving would take longer.

There's been a lot of development there since the Sonics were a thing. That whole area west of the park is more apartments and condos than industrial like it was previously.

On a side note if you're looking for a killer meal Spinasse is the best Italian food I've had outside of Italy and it was better than some places there. Not sure if the pandemic impacted the quality coming out of their kitchen but is incredible.

Well #1 and #2 could describe Wrigley as well and they manage, but Wrigley does have public transportation.
- Angotti

The difference is that you could park in Roscoe Village and walk a mile over and have no issues. Or park in Lincoln park and take the red line two stops. Or train it in and then red line up. Unless there is a major traffic event - you can still get in and out in a reasonable amount of time. Plus, Chicago traffic actually moves unlike there. Too many two way streets.

It is a cool looking building and itll be interesting to see how they make it work but most of the people i worked with were confused as to why they didn't put it by the other stadiums.

I don’t disagree, but I believe that you can get some kind of asset for him vs a waiver claim, I could be wrong, that’s just my opinion.
- Angotti

I agree with you!
Get anything you can for him... Considering what was given up to obtain him.

Which hotel? I always preferred the Sheraton. Loulay (which was connected but not affiliated) always had a good bartender. The walk over from downtown isn't bad but if you have to go up the hill it is kind of obnoxious and driving would take longer.

There's been a lot of development there since the Sonics were a thing. That whole area west of the park is more apartments and condos than industrial like it was previously.

On a side note if you're looking for a killer meal Spinasse is the best Italian food I've had outside of Italy and it was better than some places there. Not sure if the pandemic impacted the quality coming out of their kitchen but is incredible.
- fattybeef

Sheraton is actually where we usually stay, but sometimes end up (like this time) at the Crowne Plaza, which is just two block away from the Sheraton. In fact I can see Loulay from my window, and I’ve been there more than once. About to head back to Chicago (via Phoenix) in about an hour, but I’ll have to check out Spinasse next time.

Connolly cleared waivers. We'll see what happens next as far as reporting to Rockford.

Avalanche placed Sikura on waivers today.
- Theo Fox

Bunch of ex-hawks on Waivers today including Clendening and Dahlstrom

My best guess is Strome would also clear waivers should he be placed on them.
- 35Tony0

Doubtful. He has too much value. Despite his shortcoming or criticism, he has value. Because he has produced points in the NHL, is young, and his contract is not too too high to take on if you really need a center. Even for short term. Also a shrewd GM could put him on their taxi squad or use sparingly, then trade him for a draft choice. For the cost off waivers, maybe get a third round when he is moved again.

Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Blackhawks cut training camp roster to 36, assigning these guys to Rockford:

Forwards: Andrei Altybarmakian, Brett Connolly, Jakub Pour, Lukas Reichel, Josiah Slavin, Michal Teply

Defensemen: Louis Crevier, Michael Krutil, Isaak Phillips
1:23 PM · Oct 6, 2021·TweetDeck
- LAHawk

Crevier has to return to junior? No exception like last season when Phillips as underage allowed to play in AHL .

I worked in Seattle for a few years. Before they started all of this you could see into the building and we were in part of it for an event. I dunno how they were going to possibly get it ready for a professional sports team.

1. the parking there is non existent and that area getting traffic dumped on it from ~15,000 fans (im sure they don't all live in Queen Ann or Belltown) is no bueno
2. its an absolutely terrible area to get in and out of if you don't live within walking distance. Trying to get over from Cap hill let alone madrona would be a nightmare. Walking across town would be faster than an uber or public transportation during rush hour.
3. its a tourist trap area anyway with mopop and the space needle there so all the normal traffic + tourists + stadium crap there is going to be not fun for anyone
4. the building itself - was old and antiquated enough where it would have been better for everyone to have knocked it down, turned it into a garden and built a new stadium by the baseball and football ones like was originally proposed
- fattybeef

It is a very interesting story. Actually the building was gutted, they dug down deep and removed a huge number of truckloads of earth. Then they rebuilt from the inside. There will be a documentary about the renovation.

That is not to say it was a wise move given the reasons you mentioned.

No doubt Strome had a rough year last year, but I don't see how he could be on the outside looking in when he is still probably good for a 40+ points over an 82 game season. He adds badly need depth scoring and will have had more time to adapt to wing where he could play on the 3rd line. His trade value is also at an all time low right now, so why get rid of him? Do people really think Entwistle or Gaudette are a better option for the roster?

I said yesterday that on day 1, K. DACH, Kurashev and Kalynuk would be in Rockford, but will be back in the NHL in time for the first game. This would allow the Hawks to only lose one of Strome, Nylander, Carpenter or Subban to waivers, while protecting Gaudette and Borgstrom. Obviously, with the injury, Kalynuk may not be back for the first game, but that lineup allows for the Hawks to have some additional time to try and find a trade partner for Nylander and Strome.
- tvetter

Hawks don't need to do anything on day 1 but put Shaw on LTIR to be cap compliant. Its day 1 of the season. Hawks don't play until day 2.

I doubt they are worried about losing Subban to waivers, there are plenty of goalies just put on waivers that are better (Montabault, Hutchison). If they are that worried, send down Lankinen, he is waiver exempt.
- LAHawk

Every team in the league is putting guys on waivers at this time. Most are of the same vein. Its a bunch of "we have a bunch of guys like this" types.

Also, neither of those goalies are better than Subban. And I am not really a fan of Subban's .

The only reason a team would move a 3rd or 2nd for either of these guys is if they think they couldn't get them via a waiver claim and really need one of them to fill a position they badlly need help at. (see Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, maybe Washington)

As badly as I want Strome gone though, he is still a center with size and some offensive skill. And he is depth in the Hawks organization right now in case one of Toews, Dach or Johnson go down early.
- RickJ

Kurashev and Borgstrom make Strome irrelevant. As does his play. Time to move on from him.

Crevier has to return to junior? No exception like last season when Phillips as underage allowed to play in AHL .
- jhawk59

Phillips is already signed to an ELC while Crevier is not so that limits Crevier to where he can go.

Yes
- fattybeef

Hawks drafted Sikura in the 6th round.

No doubt Strome had a rough year last year, but I don't see how he could be on the outside looking in when he is still probably good for a 40+ points over an 82 game season. He adds badly need depth scoring and will have had more time to adapt to wing where he could play on the 3rd line. His trade value is also at an all time low right now, so why get rid of him? Do people really think Entwistle or Gaudette are a better option for the roster?
- Hawkeynation

That's a tough call Strome did have a high ankle sprain last year ,and those can be tricky .Strome has some skill but is charmin soft and both Gaudette and Entwhistle have some grit and I believe Gaudette on the right line can produce at a 40 to 50 point pace .I deal Strome along with the rest in a deal for Kessel in a heart beat and if that don't work take a 2nd or 3rd for him

Phillips is already signed to an ELC while Crevier is not so that limits Crevier to where he can go.
- Theo Fox

Juniors is where he should be. He needs another year at that level.

That's a tough call Strome did have a high ankle sprain last year ,and those can be tricky .Strome has some skill but is charmin soft and both Gaudette and Entwhistle have some grit and I believe Gaudette on the right line can produce at a 40 to 50 point pace .I deal Strome along with the rest in a deal for Kessel in a heart beat and if that don't work take a 2nd or 3rd for him
- oldduffman

Hawks would need to move some cap space to acquire Kessel. Plus, they already have enough suspect defensively forwards.

The Strome as insurance for Toews' situation I don't think is valid any longer, as he wasn't used that way last season; even despite knowing there would be no Toews.

I'm not clear on why it would revert to that situation again, given the team seems more intent on doing anything but using Strome at centre. I guess fair enough, it is what it is.

If it seems like other teams are not interested in a trade, then the only real option is Rockford and if someone takes him that's. basically, life.

Nylander? Who cares? - isn't his salary low enough to get buried in the AHL with not cap implications?

The Strome as insurance for Toews' situation I don't think is valid any longer, as he wasn't used that way last season; even despite knowing there would be no Toews.

I'm not clear on why it would revert to that situation again, given the team seems more intent on doing anything but using Strome at centre. I guess fair enough, it is what it is.

If it seems like other teams are not interested in a trade, then the only real option is Rockford and if someone takes him that's. basically, life.

Nylander? Who cares? - isn't his salary low enough to get buried in the AHL with not cap implications?
- SC116

Cap hit isn't the issue with Nylander. He needs to be exposed to waivers before he can be buried in Rockfish. Some here are concerned he will be claimed, especially given his low cost.