Sayros
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Location: Canada, AB Joined: 07.01.2007
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It makes sense Hughes with Poolman , Myers has not been good ( I am being very polite) - VANTEL
Ya at what point does he become a loui eriksson? I wanted for him to be good and tried to give benefit of the doubt, kinda like gudbranson actually ... but he's just not. He seems to hit a shinpad or something everytime he tries to make a pass or clear it ... it's uncanny really.
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Podz may have had top 6 minutes yesterday but he certainly didnt have top 6 players on his line. - boonerbuck
Makes his performance that much more impressive against a NHL roster |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Ya at what point does he become a loui eriksson? I wanted for him to be good and tried to give benefit of the doubt, kinda like gudbranson actually ... but he's just not. He seems to hit a shinpad or something everytime he tries to make a pass or clear it ... it's uncanny really. - Sayros
Goal scoring sensation Loui Eriksson?
3 goals already this pre-season and might be on the Yotes top line, that franchise is just.... |
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DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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Miller may start the season at C just because Sutter isn't ready to go, but it won't last once Sutter gets back. 3C is Richardinson's spot, it's just being kept warm for him by Miller. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Makes his performance that much more impressive against a NHL roster - Nucker101
ya, he looked much better in that game. It all comes down to confidence.
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Miller may start the season at C just because Sutter isn't ready to go, but it won't last once Sutter gets back. 3C is Richardinson's spot, it's just being kept warm for him by Miller. - DariusKnight
Green has a lot of flexibility with this lineup that Benning has built |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Miller may start the season at C just because Sutter isn't ready to go, but it won't last once Sutter gets back. 3C is Richardinson's spot, it's just being kept warm for him by Miller. - DariusKnight
I don't know if I can agree with the concept of breaking down 1st and 3rd lines because you have an injured 4rth liner.
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DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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I don't know if I can agree with the concept of breaking down 1st and 3rd lines because you have an injured 4rth liner. - boonerbuck
If you lack centers, that necessitates some breaking, otherwise you're going to be chasing the puck due to loss of faceoffs and puck possession. As we've seen the last couple of years, if the team doesn't control the puck off of faceoffs and get set up with puck possession we tend to go to pieces. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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1 practice makes it a reality to start the season.
- boonerbuck
1 practice, all the other practices, the preseason games where he's been centering a line without Boes... and I quote: "You really are not very honest are you?"
It's not a certainty, but they're taking a loooooooooong look at it |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Miller may start the season at C just because Sutter isn't ready to go, but it won't last once Sutter gets back. 3C is Richardinson's spot, it's just being kept warm for him by Miller. - DariusKnight
Probably... unless they're winning a lot. Coaches don't really like messing with a winning combo. |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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If you lack centers, that necessitates some breaking, otherwise you're going to be chasing the puck due to loss of faceoffs and puck possession. As we've seen the last couple of years, if the team doesn't control the puck off of faceoffs and get set up with puck possession we tend to go to pieces. - DariusKnight
This backs up my idea of not taking Miller off the top line then because Petey is below 50% on faceoffs. You'd think you would want to be over 50% on your top line... instead of sacrificing that because you need to win a few on the bottom line.
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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If Niller is centering his own line then I don’t think you can look at it so black and white by labelling a top 6/bottom 6. You’d likely see 3 lines getting rolled and the 4th getting the scraps/pk mins - Nucker101
I can get behind Miller at C... not in the...wait for it... bottom 6 though.
So Dikcinson getting scraps and pk minutes. A guy who has very impressive shut down stats and normally plays a big role for his hockey team and was brought in for that very reason according to management.
I can't get behind that either. |
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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I can get behind Miller at C... not in the...wait for it... bottom 6 though.
So Dikcinson getting scraps and pk minutes. A guy who has very impressive shut down stats and normally plays a big role for his hockey team and was brought in for that very reason according to management.
I can't get behind that either. - boonerbuck
Richardinson has played more wing than center so far in his NHL career, he could easily be a valuable defensive winger on a line that matches up against opposing top lines
You’re getting too caught up on line labels |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Wow that's a lot of laughy faces, you're giving Lordy a run for his money.
Dishonest about what? I've never said not having Petey there wasn't impacting their decisions. But they could have places a placeholder between Boes and Miller if that was the case – just like when Petan was centering Hog and Boes. That said, since last year they've talked about Miller centering his own line. The entire training camp and preseason he's been centering his own line. He hasn't played wing once. And the only reason for that is because Petey isn't here? C'mon man.
As for "out of the top 6", Nucker gets it... they'd roll 3 lines capable of collecting points and owning possession. Those "3 scoring lines" TG has been referring to for a long time.
This is all just potential, and I have no stock in JTM centering his own line not with Petey and Boes (hell I think they should trade him at some point).. but you seem so dogmatic that they won't/couldn't that it's funny the closer it seems to be. - NewYorkNuck
I'm not claiming what they won't do. I'm prepared for Green to have to learn the hard way and coming to his senses based on the past.
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I'm not claiming what they won't do. I'm prepared for Green to have to learn the hard way and coming to his senses based on the past. - boonerbuck
I don’t think Green is set on anything, I bet eventually we see him test both options(stacking a top 6 vs spreading the wealth)
He could rotate both strategies depending on how the team is playing, who’s injured and who they’re playing against.
This is the most flexibility he’s had since taking this job |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Richardinson has played more wing than center so far in his NHL career, he could easily be a valuable defensive winger on a line that matches up against opposing top lines
You’re getting too caught up on line labels - Nucker101
People keep getting caught up in number labels. Not me... I'll use player names to help those people through their hang ups then. Its just much easier for me to say Lotto, or a number or top/bottom. I'll work around it if it can keep the focus on the lines rather than labels ok? |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I don’t think Green is set on anything, I bet eventually we see him test both options(stacking a top 6 vs spreading the wealth)
He could rotate both strategies depending on how the team is playing, who’s injured and who they’re playing against.
This is the most flexibility he’s had since taking this job - Nucker101
Man there is going to be a lot of crying over this later.
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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People keep getting caught up in number labels. Not me... I'll use player names to help those people through their hang ups then. Its just much easier for me to say Lotto, or a number or top/bottom. I'll work around it if it can keep the focus on the lines rather than labels ok? - boonerbuck
All I’m saying is that a “3rd” line centered by Richardinson likely averages less 5v5 minutes than a “3rd” line centered by JTM/Bo
I don’t think that’s a contentious statement |
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RealityChecker
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Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund Joined: 04.18.2010
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Wow that's a lot of laughy faces, you're giving Lordy a run for his money.
Dishonest about what? I've never said not having Petey there wasn't impacting their decisions. But they could have places a placeholder between Boes and Miller if that was the case – just like when Petan was centering Hog and Boes. That said, since last year they've talked about Miller centering his own line. The entire training camp and preseason he's been centering his own line. He hasn't played wing once. And the only reason for that is because Petey isn't here? C'mon man.
As for "out of the top 6", Nucker gets it... they'd roll 3 lines capable of collecting points and owning possession. Those "3 scoring lines" TG has been referring to for a long time.
This is all just potential, and I have no stock in JTM centering his own line not with Petey and Boes (hell I think they should trade him at some point).. but you seem so dogmatic that they won't/couldn't that it's funny the closer it seems to be. - NewYorkNuck
It doesn't even have to be a permanent move. They could just trying out new looks that they can deploy depending on the opponent and/or gameplay (eg up or down a goal late.) It's not like lines are set in stone during the season anyway. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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It doesn't even have to be a permanent move. They could just trying out new looks that they can deploy depending on the opponent and/or gameplay (eg up or down a goal late.) It's not like lines are set in stone during the season anyway. - RealityChecker
Exactly |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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All I’m saying is that a “3rd” line centered by Richardinson likely averages less 5v5 minutes than a “3rd” line centered by JTM/Bo
I don’t think that’s a contentious statement - Nucker101
Petey's/Boeser/Hogz or Garland line would get destroyed. I mean people are worried about Hogz and Garland being on Bo's wings as being too small and soft... Imagine what will happen to the Petey/Boeser/Hogz or Garland line?
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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It doesn't even have to be a permanent move. They could just trying out new looks that they can deploy depending on the opponent and/or gameplay (eg up or down a goal late.) It's not like lines are set in stone during the season anyway. - RealityChecker
It’s Green’s options plan at play. |
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