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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Funny - this came out the same time a report said that low-dose aspirin helps contain Covid symptoms. I wonder what "science" says about all this.
- powerenforcer

Is it science or the opinion of someone possibly including a doctor? Remember the sugar industry had a ‘scientist’ write up a paper sugar was good for humans.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
I have the same thoughts about Strome. We finally have some depth and injury insurance up front that we will just throw away because we will not get a good return for him.
Ironically most posters were gleeful when we traded for Strome. I wonder how many of those are dissing him now. I hated that trade from day 1 because I felt that we gave up more than we received. I know that Schmaltz is overpaid now, but that doesn't mean that we would have committed to the same dollars.

- 67hawks


That trade looked ok for a while. Schmaltz is the best player in that deal but to me he’s another guy that’s a perimeter player.

Also you mention his contract and yes that’s also no bueno for the current Hawk roster.

I imagine Kubalik’s salary demands to be sizable but I could see them being even greater, if Schmaltz was on the team.

If Strome could consistently play the way he did the last couple preseason games, I don’t think people would object so much to keeping him around.

If he’s finally figured it out and has to ply his trade for another team that would suck but his larger body of work suggests a guy who is too easily knocked off the puck and doesn’t really jibe with the team’s desired direction of being hard to play against.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
Well, I have read that you're not a real fan unless you're at serious risk of a grabber or a stroke. You, my Canadian friend, are at the top of the non-fan list. No way to be a fan and provide measured analysis at the same time.
- mohel

The trouble with me is I have coached hockey and two of my daughters fast pitch teams so I tend to watch sports analytically instead of as a fan. When Kane scored the OT goal to win the cup in 2010, my reaction wasn’t “WE WON!” It was “Why did he shoot from that angle?” It’s certainly easier on the heart but I didn’t enjoy the ‘in the moment’ excitement most Blackhawk fans did.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
You or I should worry about that low dose aspirin I take before going to sleep?

I would think most posters here have to worry about abstaining from Diet soda and non-diet sodas, all fast food purchases, alcohol, and lack of solid vegetable filled diets and exercise over aspirin.
And the "man"...is that some political slang just like when I had to get educated after "cancel culture" was posted?

Kent state "man" was the establishments reaction to anti-war protestors, "...the man come and take you away"...

...on to hockey where we should have started:

What ever happened to the idea of competition? Why not keep Strome and feel the necessary feeling he has got to compete to play wherever he can in the line-up, before a unnecessary hasty discard?

- wiz1901


The new guidelines are for over-60s starting a low-dose aspirin regiment to avoid a first heart attack or first stroke - it’s no longer recommended:

“The latest evidence is clear: starting a daily aspirin regimen in people who are 60 or older to prevent a first heart attack or stroke is not recommended," Task Force member Dr. Chien-Wen Tseng said in a statement. "However, this Task Force recommendation is not for people already taking aspirin for a previous heart attack or stroke; they should continue to do so unless told otherwise by their clinician."
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 11:32 AM ET
That trade looked ok for a while. Schmaltz is the best player in that deal but to me he’s another guy that’s a perimeter player.

Also you mention his contract and yes that’s also no bueno for the current Hawk roster.

I imagine Kubalik’s salary demands to be sizable but I could see them being even greater, if Schmaltz was on the team.

If Strome could consistently play the way he did the last couple preseason games, I don’t think people would object so much to keeping him around.

If he’s finally figured it out and has to ply his trade for another team that would suck but his larger body of work suggests a guy who is too easily knocked off the puck and doesn’t really jibe with the team’s desired direction of being hard to play against.

- HawkintheD


So frustrating, is he playing the way he did in the exhibition games because he knows he has to to get a spot in the line up or did he really figure it out and turn a corner? Part of me says, keep him, let’s see if this is the new Strome and part of me says, he’ll go back to his dainty game as soon as he’s comfortable.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 13 @ 11:32 AM ET
Is it science or the opinion of someone possibly including a doctor? Remember the sugar industry had a ‘scientist’ write up a paper sugar was good for humans.
- paulr


Well egg yolks were bad, until they were good.
Pasta was the meal before an athletic event until it was bad for you, but is good again.
All fats were bad, now unsaturated fats are good.
Potatoes were bad, but now they are nutrient dense
Coffee was bad, but now is found to help[ prevent Parkinson's and other diseases
Nuts had too much fat, but now it is good fat.


Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:36 AM ET
So frustrating, is he playing the way he did in the exhibition games because he knows he has to to get a spot in the line up or did he really figure it out and turn a corner? Part of me says, keep him, let’s see if this is the new Strome and part of me says, he’ll go back to his dainty game as soon as he’s comfortable.
- paulr


The Hawks have more than one viable option to replace Strome if traded. They also have more than one viable option to replace a center if one goes down. I don't personally see the downside to moving him.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 13 @ 11:36 AM ET
I have the same thoughts about Strome. We finally have some depth and injury insurance up front that we will just throw away because we will not get a good return for him.
Ironically most posters were gleeful when we traded for Strome. I wonder how many of those are dissing him now. I hated that trade from day 1 because I felt that we gave up more than we received. I know that Schmaltz is overpaid now, but that doesn't mean that we would have committed to the same dollars.

EDIT: Plus I am not totally sold on Borgstrom yet.

- 67hawks

If Bowman intended to just throw Strome away he would have risked waiving him. Too soon to conclude there won't be a good return. All it takes is a couple of injuries around the league.

But Stanbo also has to deal with the fact that JC is pulling a Q/Mike Babcock/Rick Tocchet move - not going to play Strome unless absolutely no better option.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
So frustrating, is he playing the way he did in the exhibition games because he knows he has to to get a spot in the line up or did he really figure it out and turn a corner? Part of me says, keep him, let’s see if this is the new Strome and part of me says, he’ll go back to his dainty game as soon as he’s comfortable.
- paulr


I would keep him. Hawks don't need the cap space, and he is still in team control next year as an RFA. Unless the Hawks can trade him for a useable asset, to me there is no reason to dump him. I wouldn't mind giving Toews breaks every now and then (on back to backs, 3 games in 4 nights, and you never know about injuries, and COVID)
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 13 @ 11:39 AM ET
So frustrating, is he playing the way he did in the exhibition games because he knows he has to to get a spot in the line up or did he really figure it out and turn a corner? Part of me says, keep him, let’s see if this is the new Strome and part of me says, he’ll go back to his dainty game as soon as he’s comfortable.
- paulr


I would keep him. Hawks don't need the cap space, and he is still in team control next year as an RFA. Unless the Hawks can trade him for a useable asset, to me there is no reason to dump him. I wouldn't mind giving Toews breaks every now and then (on back to backs, 3 games in 4 nights, and you never know about injuries, and COVID)
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:41 AM ET
If Bowman intended to just throw Strome away he would have risked waiving him. Too soon to conclude there won't be a good return. All it takes is a couple of injuries around the league.

But Stanbo also has to deal with the fact that JC is pulling a Q/Mike Babcock/Rick Tocchet move - not going to play Strome unless absolutely no better option.

- RickJ


Is this a bad thing? He didn't notably outplay anyone, and why risk injury if you are planning on trading him soon? I'm sure that Stan would put a bug in his ear about playing Strome if need be. It's not like he's dealing with Q anymore.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 11:42 AM ET
Well egg yolks were bad, until they were good.
Pasta was the meal before an athletic event until it was bad for you, but is good again.
All fats were bad, now unsaturated fats are good.
Potatoes were bad, but now they are nutrient dense
Coffee was bad, but now is found to help

- LAHawk[ prevent Parkinson's and other diseases
Nuts had too much fat, but now it is good fat.



Some of these findings are science some are anecdotal in the guise of science. But the best thing about science is it is all about disproving a hypothesis. Unfortunately to most of us we want an immediate answer and tend to disbelieve anything that disputes itself. Personally, as frustrating as it can be, I’ll always believe something where the status quo is continually challenged.

RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 13 @ 11:48 AM ET
So frustrating, is he playing the way he did in the exhibition games because he knows he has to to get a spot in the line up or did he really figure it out and turn a corner? Part of me says, keep him, let’s see if this is the new Strome and part of me says, he’ll go back to his dainty game as soon as he’s comfortable.
- paulr

This shouldn't be that difficult for you to arrive at a final decision - the guy can't skate and play at the pace required in today's NHL. And he never will be able to. And there is no physicality to his game to even partially offset those skating deficiencies. With the puck in the O Zone he is OK, without the puck anywhere else on the ice he becomes a huge liability.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Oct 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
This shouldn't be that difficult for you to arrive at a final decision - the guy can't skate and play at the pace required in today's NHL. And he never will be able to. And there is no physicality to his game to even partially offset those skating deficiencies. With the puck in the O Zone he is OK, without the puck anywhere else on the ice he becomes a huge liability.
- RickJ


well said....

he's 100% aware he's on the block and making himself marketable for the next team to tease like he did here, only to fall back into the exact reason Arizona sent him packing way early and hasn't looked back. Hawks need to cut bait.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
This shouldn't be that difficult for you to arrive at a final decision - the guy can't skate and play at the pace required in today's NHL. And he never will be able to. And there is no physicality to his game to even partially offset those skating deficiencies. With the puck in the O Zone he is OK, without the puck anywhere else on the ice he becomes a huge liability.
- RickJ

If the Hawks were over burdened with talent it would definitely be a no brainer but in the state they’re in, they can’t afford to move anyone who’s possibly better than what they have, especially for nothing. That said if he should make the team I’d expect the going to the net and battling for pucks would end immediately.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
Well egg yolks were bad, until they were good.
Pasta was the meal before an athletic event until it was bad for you, but is good again.
All fats were bad, now unsaturated fats are good.
Potatoes were bad, but now they are nutrient dense
Coffee was bad, but now is found to help

- LAHawk[ prevent Parkinson's and other diseases
Nuts had too much fat, but now it is good fat.


General rules:
Cut out as much processed sugar as possible.
Keep calorie intake around 2000cal but adjust for body size.
Limit alcohol as much as possible (although difficult during hockey season).
Raid the produce section at your local market.
Exercise (even if its just a walk).

Beyond this, go talk to a nutritionist.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
Is this a bad thing? He didn't notably outplay anyone, and why risk injury if you are planning on trading him soon? I'm sure that Stan would put a bug in his ear about playing Strome if need be. It's not like he's dealing with Q anymore.
- Chunk

Not a bad thing at all, coach has made his decision on where Strome is in the roster pecking order and one way or another has communicated it to both Bowman and the player.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
General rules:
Cut out as much processed sugar as possible.
Keep calorie intake around 2000cal but adjust for body size.
Limit alcohol as much as possible (although difficult during hockey season).
Raid the produce section at your local market.
Exercise (even if its just a walk).

Beyond this, go talk to a nutritionist.

- Chunk

I was buying in, but you lost me at “limit alcohol”.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 13 @ 12:08 PM ET
If the Hawks were over burdened with talent it would definitely be a no brainer but in the state they’re in, they can’t afford to move anyone who’s possibly better than what they have, especially for nothing. That said if he should make the team I’d expect the going to the net and battling for pucks would end immediately.
- paulr

But he has made the team, unhappily for him as the 22nd or 23rd man (for now). He doesn't dress for games, gets to watch a guy like Carpenter play ahead of him.

Simple fact - JC doesn't like Strome's game and doesn't really care about him as an insurance policy

mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
Some of these findings are science some are anecdotal in the guise of science. But the best thing about science is it is all about disproving a hypothesis. Unfortunately to most of us we want an immediate answer and tend to disbelieve anything that disputes itself. Personally, as frustrating as it can be, I’ll always believe something where the status quo is continually challenged.
- paulr


Well, that's not really the way "science" operates these days.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 12:34 PM ET
Well, that's not really the way "science" operates these days.
- mohel

Most science still is. But when science and politics collide things tend to get cloudy.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 13 @ 12:47 PM ET
Most science still is. But when science and politics collide things tend to get cloudy.
- paulr


They collide often.

On the egg and aspirin. The trouble, to me, is that the original decision is presented as "science shows"....... Then it turns out science was incorrect - not only is the egg not dangerous, it is a superfood. Fortunately, at least with the egg, I have the option of ignoring the current "estimates" of the scientific prognosticators.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
The player I am most interested in watching to start the season is Borgy. I noticed him often in the exhibition games. He moves well and looks comfortable. Hopefully that continues.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
They collide often.

On the egg and aspirin. The trouble, to me, is that the original decision is presented as "science shows"....... Then it turns out science was incorrect - not only is the egg not dangerous, it is a superfood. Fortunately, at least with the egg, I have the option of ignoring the current "estimates" of the scientific prognosticators.

- mohel

And the beauty of science is exactly that. You write a hypothesis showing aspirin is good for heart health and I look at your testing and do additional tests to dispute your findings. Then Joe comes along and does additional tests and his findings disprove my testing and prove you were in fact correct. I know it doesn’t fit with today’s distaste of waiting but science is without doubt the only way of finding the truth. Even if it is slowed or stymied by politics or money, science will eventually prevail and find the truth.

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:10 PM ET
The player I am most interested in watching to start the season is Borgy. I noticed him often in the exhibition games. He moves well and looks comfortable. Hopefully that continues.
- mohel

I’m interested in Borgy too but for me it’s Seth Jones. I’m expecting to see a guy who’s dominant offensively, brings some physicality and who’s not as accomplished defensively. But I believe defense is about effort, hard work and the willingness to dedicate to playing it. And I’m hopJones proves the naysayers wrong and dedicates himself to playing defense as well as he plays offensively.
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