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Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
This post wouldn’t delete. Sorry folks.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
I just meant that - some folks may say Brady is better because I used the contract signing as a way to illustrate the merits of the Nylander contract.

To be honest it depends what type of winger is needed for the team when comparing Matthew vs Nylander. If I lack skill/speed Nylander is far and away better. If I want some grit and a pest type player I’d go with Matthew Tkachuk.

- Big23Questions

I dont think Ive heard anyone say Brady is better than Wilster? Willie was overpaid by 500g's at the time, but in the past two years he has really improved imo and earns each dime now.
The Brady contract is an overpayment imo....specially right now. But that could change.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
They are hosting a TV show and one guy throws his jacket and takes off his tie.

Hopefully he didnt start throwing his shoes after the 3rd goal.

- Fakepartofme

I get that it was a goal that really hurt their chances of making the World Cup, but jeez-Louise, could they not at least acknowledge the goal was amazing?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
I get that it was a goal that really hurt their chances of making the World Cup, but jeez-Louise, could they not at least acknowledge the goal was amazing?
- Atomic Wedgie

Exactly.
Throw in a little professionalism with your outrage, disappointment and childish behaviour
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:07 PM ET
They are hosting a TV show and one guy throws his jacket and takes off his tie.

Hopefully he didnt start throwing his shoes after the 3rd goal.

- Fakepartofme

Didn't even know there was a third goal.
Go Canada.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: All Ontario Scientist (Masters Level III)
Joined: 04.11.2018

Oct 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
I dont think Ive heard anyone say Brady is better than Wilster? Willie was overpaid by 500g's at the time, but in the past two years he has really improved imo and earns each dime now.
- Fakepartofme



Confusion. Sorry man I’m not a good writer! What I meant;

- I saw how much Ottawa paid for Brady.
- I thought Yikes! That’s way too much.
- I then thought about how much people chirped the Nylander price tag.
- then I thought that with a number of signings last 2 seasons (over payments) the Nylander contract looks really good in terms of the cost and the output from Nylander.
- I then thought that some people may argue the Tkachuk contract is good and state that he is better than Nylander. May state. Not have said.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
Confusion. Sorry man I’m not a good writer! What I meant;

- I saw how much Ottawa paid for Brady.
- I thought Yikes! That’s way too much.
- I then thought about how much people chirped the Nylander price tag.
- then I thought that with a number of signings last 2 seasons (over payments) the Nylander contract looks really good in terms of the cost and the output from Nylander.
- I then thought that some people may argue the Tkachuk contract is good and state that he is better than Nylander. May state. Not have said.

- Big23Questions

I take Nylander over Brady all day every day, now Mathew is a different story.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:13 PM ET
Confusion. Sorry man I’m not a good writer! What I meant;

- I saw how much Ottawa paid for Brady.
- I thought Yikes! That’s way too much.
- I then thought about how much people chirped the Nylander price tag.
- then I thought that with a number of signings last 2 seasons (over payments) the Nylander contract looks really good in terms of the cost and the output from Nylander.
- I then thought that some people may argue the Tkachuk contract is good and state that he is better than Nylander. May state. Not have said.

- Big23Questions

Ok gotcha, my bad man.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
The sens could make him sit if he didn’t agree to the terms they wouldn’t budge on
- Dozzer


I think you are forgetting this is a business.

Tkachuk is one of their few marketable players.

Ottawa has enough troubles getting their fans to go to games.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
I take Nylander over Brady all day every day, now Mathew is a different story.
- bobbyisno1

Agreed.
However, (and yes I know this is way too early in their careers) but I feel Wilsters game may allow him to play at a higher level for more seasons than MT.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 14 @ 1:15 PM ET
I think you are forgetting this is a business.

Tkachuk is one of their few marketable players.

Ottawa has enough troubles getting their fans to go to games.

- Santo_44

Captaincy incoming. Hoping it's tonight so I can see it live.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Oct 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
I just meant that - some folks may say Brady is better because I used the contract signing as a way to illustrate the merits of the Nylander contract.

To be honest it depends what type of winger is needed for the team when comparing Matthew vs Nylander. If I lack skill/speed Nylander is far and away better. If I want some grit and a pest type player I’d go with Matthew Tkachuk.

- Big23Questions

kachuck for greedy female dog straight up, all day long👍🏿

but why would the flamers do that unless they could get another grown man cumming the other way?🤦‍♂️

i am back on the perimeter willi bandwagon based upon his performance in the playoffs and heretofore this season👍

if the cap goes up and ze maintains this level of effort combined with iq combined with pointz; he will be a bargain after they win the cup 👍🏿
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
I disagree. I dont think he has that in him.
- Archaic


I don't think the jump from a 25 goal pace to 30 goals is that big for a 22 year old

I also don't think the jump from 55ish point pace to 70 points is that big for a 22 year old.

But we will see. Maybe he regresses into a 20/20 guy and we can all laugh at the Sens and that terrible contract.

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
Agreed.
However, (and yes I know this is way too early in their careers) but I feel Wilsters game may allow him to play at a higher level for more seasons than MB.

- Fakepartofme

MB? Who?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
I don't think the jump from a 25 goal pace to 30 goals is that big for a 22 year old

I also don't think the jump from 55ish point pace to 70 points is that big for a 22 year old.

But we will see. Maybe he regresses into a 20/20 guy and we can all laugh at the Sens and that terrible contract.

- Leafs43

Laughing at the sens, you would think it would have gotten boring by now.

But it really hasnt.



I do think they will be a feisty pain in the butt team to play against this year and next as they improve.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
kachuck for greedy female dog straight up, all day long👍🏿

but why would the flamers do that unless they could get another grown man cumming the other way?🤦‍♂️

i am back on the perimeter willi bandwagon based upon his performance in the playoffs and heretofore this season👍

if the cap goes up and ze maintains this level of effort combined with iq combined with pointz; he will be a bargain after they win the cup 👍🏿

- Skalapy

Keep Willie, trade Marner and get McDavid.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think you are forgetting this is a business.

Tkachuk is one of their few marketable players.

Ottawa has enough troubles getting their fans to go to games.

- Santo_44


It’s being openly stated they had to pay him more to get him to sign for that long.

So Ottawa had to choose to sign him for a shorter period of time or pay him more. They chose to pay more so they don’t lose him as quickly.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
I dont think Ive heard anyone say Brady is better than Wilster? Willie was overpaid by 500g's at the time, but in the past two years he has really improved imo and earns each dime now.
The Brady contract is an overpayment imo....specially right now. But that could change.

- Fakepartofme


Paying him for the future like the Leafs did.

Brady Tkachuk #6 in expected goals over the last 2 seasons. 🤷🏻‍♂️
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
It’s being openly stated they had to pay him more to get him to sign for that long.

So Ottawa had to choose to sign him for a shorter period of time or pay him more. They chose to pay more so they don’t lose him as quickly.

- Dozzer

Or they could trade the little rat.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:20 PM ET
MB? Who?
- bobbyisno1

Was suppose to be MT (M Tkachuk).....buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut somehow I typed a "B" instead?


Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
I don't think the jump from a 25 goal pace to 30 goals is that big for a 22 year old

I also don't think the jump from 55ish point pace to 70 points is that big for a 22 year old.

But we will see. Maybe he regresses into a 20/20 guy and we can all laugh at the Sens and that terrible contract.

- Leafs43


Pace means very little. Come back when he actually hits 25 goals. He wont be a perenial 30 goal scorer. I see him as 25ish goal scorer and 60ish point player.

8.25 is way overpaying for that type of production.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
Keep Willie, trade Marner and get McDavid.
- bobbyisno1

Ok, lets get this done.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
I don't think the jump from a 25 goal pace to 30 goals is that big for a 22 year old

I also don't think the jump from 55ish point pace to 70 points is that big for a 22 year old.

But we will see. Maybe he regresses into a 20/20 guy and we can all laugh at the Sens and that terrible contract.

- Leafs43


Maybe he’ll get to play on Matthews wing, then he’d rack up the points.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
Keep Willie, trade Marner and get McDavid.
- bobbyisno1


Dont be ridiculous. They arent getting McDavid until his contract is up
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 14 @ 1:23 PM ET
It’s being openly stated they had to pay him more to get him to sign for that long.

So Ottawa had to choose to sign him for a shorter period of time or pay him more. They chose to pay more so they don’t lose him as quickly.

- Dozzer


Ottawa also doesnt give signing bonuses so probably had to add a little on top for that
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