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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 10:43 AM ET
Yeah you're going to have to dump and chase a little bit against them. The D are pretty mobile but really struggle in tight to the net. You could see it that when the Isles got to the paint with the puck the Canes were basically useless. That's what you gotta do.
- BINGO!


Isles have changed many PP coaches and not much has changed. PP was better though during last years run.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
McAvoy extended at $9.5M per, which is $1.25M less than Pelech and Pulock combined next year
- eichiefs9


9.5?

I'll never understand many of these hockey contracts.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
Yeah you're going to have to dump and chase a little bit against them. The D are pretty mobile but really struggle in tight to the net. You could see it that when the Isles got to the paint with the puck the Canes were basically useless. That's what you gotta do.
- BINGO!


The 'Canes PK was pretty freaking aggressive last night. Overall their entire game plan kept the Isles off balance most of the night. Good win for you, Bingo.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
I absolutely agree. But Chara looked like a liability most times. He looked slow and didn't seem to utilize angles to help himself. Hopefully just a 1 game hiccup as he gets more comfortable with the system and builds chemistry with new teammates.
- Isleshockeyman


Hopefully it is about getting more comfortable in the system. Chara and Parise are great stories but Isles need to make adjustments as needed.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
9.5?

I'll never understand many of these hockey contracts.

- ses111


Nor will I. I get that McAvoy is a pretty good D-man, but not $9.5m per good. That's just nuts.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
You have to dump it in once in a while but you have to at least gain the red line. They had a hard time even doing that.
- Isleshockeyman


Would be interested to see what Aho can do on the PP?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
Nor will I. I get that McAvoy is a pretty good D-man, but not $9.5m per good. That's just nuts.
- Isleshockeyman


I think 9.5 and you better put up monster numbers.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
Hopefully it is about getting more comfortable in the system. Chara and Parise are great stories but Isles need to make adjustments as needed.
- ses111

Agreed. Stories don't win championships. You have to go with the best lineup and do what's in the best interest of the club, not the player.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Would be interested to see what Aho can do on the PP?
- ses111

If they can't break the PK pressure and get the PP set up and moving, then it doesn't really matter who is running it. I get your point though and I'm sure he'll get his shots. He can move the puck pretty well.
I'd like to see Pulock on one PP line and Chara on the other. With someone with net front presence, that might get some goals going. Not that I'd like to stand in front of either one of those guys shots.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
I think 9.5 and you better put up monster numbers.
- ses111

Career numbers as a base line and then better improve from that.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nor will I. I get that McAvoy is a pretty good D-man, but not $9.5m per good. That's just nuts.
- Isleshockeyman

Fox is going to ram it right up the Rangers asses this offseason. If Darnell Nurse/Seth Jones/McAvoy/Werenski are $9M+ defenseman than Fox is easily over $10M
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
Isles have changed many PP coaches and not much has changed. PP was better though during last years run.
- ses111

It's the personnel. Not the coaches.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
Fox is going to ram it right up the Rangers asses this offseason. If Darnell Nurse/Seth Jones/McAvoy/Werenski are $9M+ defenseman than Fox is easily over $10M
- eichiefs9


Rangers Cap situation has to be getting tight.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Oct 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
It's the personnel. Not the coaches.
- Mancalledsting


Exactly right!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Oct 15 @ 11:25 AM ET
Well, unfortunately I have to agree. I was one of the firs to jump on the Chara train. What I saw in preseason and last night, he was definitely slow and out of position at times. Although I did say about 15-17 minutes a night with quite a few nights off to keep him (and Greene) fresh for the playoffs. Hopefully it's just getting used to the Trotz system and his play improves.
- Isleshockeyman

Im not negative on Chara at all but I think 15-17 mins a night is a lofty expectation. I knew that before we signed him. He was skating in cement with Washington last year that’s why I was pretty shocked to see some of the posters expectations on here. Unrealistic.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 15 @ 11:26 AM ET
The 'Canes PK was pretty freaking aggressive last night. Overall their entire game plan kept the Isles off balance most of the night. Good win for you, Bingo.
- Isleshockeyman


All about aggression. Brind'amour's thing he keeps stressing is that he's fine with guys making mistakes so long as it's as a result of trying to be aggressive. If you're just out of position because you aren't moving your feet, that's a problem, but if you get burned going hard after the puck, well, that's forgivable.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
All about aggression. Brind'amour's thing he keeps stressing is that he's fine with guys making mistakes so long as it's as a result of trying to be aggressive. If you're just out of position because you aren't moving your feet, that's a problem, but if you get burned going hard after the puck, well, that's forgivable.
- BINGO!

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:41 PM ET
McAvoy extended at $9.5M per, which is $1.25M less than Pelech and Pulock combined next year
- eichiefs9


Very happy for Charlie and his Dad. I know the family well... couldn't happen to a nicer kid. Now I hope he stinks.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:43 PM ET
The 'Canes PK was pretty freaking aggressive last night. Overall their entire game plan kept the Isles off balance most of the night. Good win for you, Bingo.
- Isleshockeyman


Their PK was one of the best in the league the last few years. They fly around the ice and make it very tough to get set up... text book how to do a PK.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:45 PM ET
While I was happy that Bailey was taken off the top PP unit I am NEVER a fan of going with 4 forwards. They always seem to struggle keeping the puck in the zone and moving it quickly from the point. We have a ton of really good D-men his HUGE shots.. silly to me to have Beau at the point.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:46 PM ET
Im not negative on Chara at all but I think 15-17 mins a night is a lofty expectation. I knew that before we signed him. He was skating in cement with Washington last year that’s why I was pretty shocked to see some of the posters expectations on here. Unrealistic.
- Cptmjl


I'll be the first to admit I was pretty high on him. We'll see how it goes. After all, it was the first game of the season. I'm not necessarily negative on him. I guess I just had, as you said, higher expectations.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:49 PM ET
While I was happy that Bailey was taken off the top PP unit I am NEVER a fan of going with 4 forwards. They always seem to struggle keeping the puck in the zone and moving it quickly from the point. We have a ton of really good D-men his HUGE shots.. silly to me to have Beau at the point.
- niteislander


I'm actually ok with it if it's working. Which some teams do. The Isles on the other hand can't seem to do it with 4 forwards though. If memory serves, they're usually middle of the pack on the PP. That's just not going to get it done come playoff time.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:52 PM ET
Fox is going to ram it right up the Rangers asses this offseason. If Darnell Nurse/Seth Jones/McAvoy/Werenski are $9M+ defenseman than Fox is easily over $10M
- eichiefs9


The Rangers seem like they're going to be so fvcked cap-wise in the next few years.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
I'm actually ok with it if it's working. Which some teams do. The Isles on the other hand can't seem to do it with 4 forwards though. If memory serves, they're usually middle of the pack on the PP. That's just not going to get it done come playoff time.
- Isleshockeyman


We always try to be the Hoosiers of hockey on the PP. when they just throw it at the net with a crowd in front to jam or tip it in they have success... instead we do this 5 or 6 passes accross the middle looking for that wide open guy. It really drives me nuts watching it... 3 low percentage passes through 3 sticks and wonder why it's not working.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Oct 15 @ 2:15 PM ET
The Rangers seem like they're going to be so fvcked cap-wise in the next few years.
- Isleshockeyman


that's a shame...
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