Sandin leads the Leafs D in the following categories at 5v5;

CF%
FF%
SF%
xGF%
SCF%
HDCF%


Granted, he’s facing weak competition and starting 61% (2nd highest) in the Ozone. Good start to his season nonetheless.

3 points (1+2) for Niemelä earlier today.

12 points (2+10) in 12 games. Leads all D in points. 6th overall in points. 7th highest PPG.


- Steven_Seagull

Bump

3 points (1+2) for Niemelä earlier today.

12 points (2+10) in 12 games. Leads all D in points. 6th overall in points. 7th highest PPG.


- Steven_Seagull

Oh hi 🤘

Sandin Brodie
Muzzin Niemela
🤔

Oh hi 🤘

Sandin Brodie
Muzzin Niemela
🤔
- mr.sir

Lindholm-Niemelä
Sandin-Brodie
Muzzin-Liljegren

I’d be fine with having a boring third pairing tbh lol

Holl with Dermott tho… a meh defensive guy paired with a meh offensive guy… that alone bothers me
- Dozzer

Ya man 100%. You need that pairing that you barely know played. Shut stuff down keep things simple…poppin’ pucks into the neutral zone. It kills the flow of your game but burns the game up a bit. You need that especially in the post season

Lindholm-Niemelä
Sandin-Brodie
Muzzin-Liljegren
- Steven_Seagull

UFA at 28
5 years/31m

Or trade for Chychrun

I'm thinking Holl @ 2M has been incorrectly assessed as a bargain for a Top 4 RHD. Frankly, I think he's overrated AF.

Muzzin has played very poorly in his first two games and guess who has also played like poop? Justin Holl. Coincidence? I think not.
- mjones242

You're absolutely right.

On the ice for literally every goal against this season.

UFA at 28
5 years/31m

Or trade for Chychrun
- mr.sir

No chance in hell they do that, unfortunately.

You're absolutely right.

On the ice for literally every goal against this season.
- GreatGigInTheSky

GF:

Rielly: 3
Sandin: 1
Muzzin: 1
Brodie: 0
Holl: 0
Dermott: 0

GA:

Rielly: 0
Sandin: 0
Brodie: 0
Dermott: 0
Muzzin: 4
Holl: 4


That’s our shutdown pair.

Our fourth line has been junk.

GF:

Rielly: 3
Sandin: 1
Muzzin: 1
Brodie: 0
Holl: 0
Dermott: 0

GA:

Rielly: 0
Sandin: 0
Brodie: 0
Dermott: 0
Muzzin: 4
Holl: 4


That’s our shutdown pair.
- Steven_Seagull

So (frank)ing bad.

I feel bad for Muzzin. On top of not playing very good hockey, he's forced to drag Holl's rotting corpse around with him. Poor guy.

So (frank)ing bad.

I feel bad for Muzzin. On top of not playing very good hockey, he's forced to drag Holl's rotting corpse around with him. Poor guy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I'm just glad we let McCann go for the provelege of keeping Holl....

I'm just glad we let McCann go for the provelege of keeping Holl....
- Archaic

It is 2 games....

Our fourth line has been junk.
- fifty__missions

Yup. Spezza hasn't been great but he's carrying two anchors around his neck right now.

Yup. Spezza hasn't been great but he's carrying two anchors around his neck right now.
- The Law

Any thoughts on Liverpool so far? I'm cautiously optimistic. We do need a midfielder at the Jan. transfer imo. Good to see Bobby F. bag one this morning. They need him to be a player.

Hutch will not be denied a spot on the Leafs bench.
- mjones242

Hutch is the Marincin of goalies....

I think Marner is very talented. He gets a lot of blow back on this thread with some folks calling for him to be traded. If the Leafs were ever to trade Marner I think they would come to regret it. We also hear more and more calls for the Leafs to make trades to improve their goaltending and defence.

How can they do that?

Leafs and 2/3 of all the teams are already hard against the cap. The teams with free cap space are very reluctant to add big long term salary. They have their own entry level players coming along and everyone wants to preserve cap space and sign these elite young guys to long term deals of 6,7 and 8 years.

Doing a trade for an elite player is incredibly complex in today's NHL. I would like to see one workable proposal for a trade involving a big dollar contract that is actually possible and would make the Leafs a better team.

So (frank)ing bad.

I feel bad for Muzzin. On top of not playing very good hockey, he's forced to drag Holl's rotting corpse around with him. Poor guy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I've been told Muzzin-Holl is an elite shutdown pairing.

Our fourth line has been junk.
- fifty__missions

I think I'm a bit more concerned about Snake and Marner and their slow starts.

You'd think 22M on the ice at the same time might tilt the ice a bit against bottom feeders.

Apparently not.

Any thoughts on Liverpool so far? I'm cautiously optimistic. We do need a midfielder at the Jan. transfer imo. Good to see Bobby F. bag one this morning. They need him to be a player.
- fifty__missions

Sorry missed this - was busy watching the game! With VVD back and Salah playing the way he is it's 'all in' time. I agree we need another creative MF.

Hoping they find a way to nab Jude Bellingham soon too.

I think I'm a bit more concerned about Snake and Marner and their slow starts.

You'd think 22M on the ice at the same time might tilt the ice a bit against bottom feeders.

Apparently not.
- mjones242

Yup, overdrive said it too.

I'd like to see Tavares with Nylander and Marner with kerfoot tonight

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
· 5m
The #leafs don't have the cap space to call up a goaltender to take Petr Mrazek's spot behind Jack Campbell tonight. They will likely sign U of T goalie Alex Bishop to an amateur tryout to back up Campbell.

great.. So, we agree.... The Ducks are terrible.
- PatC80

Easy there Turbo.... Only I get to say that....


Well 2nd thought.. when everyone knows that.. not really breaking news there ... but with McTavish / Drysdale / Z / Comtois / Dostal... and others good times not far off...

On another note watching Stolli the goalie absolutely Stone the Wild last night.... Leafs should def make an offer to Murray for him.. he's been great for us down in San Diego and up in Anaheim when called upon.. He'd be perfect for Leafs this yr.

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
· 5m
The #leafs don't have the cap space to call up a goaltender to take Petr Mrazek's spot behind Jack Campbell tonight. They will likely sign U of T goalie Alex Bishop to an amateur tryout to back up Campbell.
- TheMussel

Is Mrazek not going on LTIR?

This poop really looks bad on management in my mind. Absolutely no flexibility to deal with short term injuries.

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
· 5m
The #leafs don't have the cap space to call up a goaltender to take Petr Mrazek's spot behind Jack Campbell tonight. They will likely sign U of T goalie Alex Bishop to an amateur tryout to back up Campbell.
- TheMussel

Wtf