That's not what I was responding too, I was responding to the comment that he was 4th in the league in scoring.

I want him to be good, we're paying him that salary regardless. But he has been useless through 3 games and into the 4th. USELESS.
- joel878

Well he hasnt been useless but even Sid, Ovi and McD go through stretches with no points. It happens.

Well Marner does have a point.

You didn't watch the game last game?
- Zezel

I've watched them all so far yup. Useless. We can find players to do nothing but zip around whip the puck into a crowd and turn the puck over for way less than 10.9 million.

Nothing to do with what I was commenting on, I responded to the comment about finishing 4th in scoring making it okay that he hasn't scored on the PP in an eon.

He finished top 5 in scoring the year he played 100% of his season with Matthews when Auston ripped the league a to pieces.
- joel878

Hmmm coincidence?
When Marner played with JT, he ripped up his most goals or close to it as well.

Well he hasnt been useless but even Sid, Ovi and McD go through stretches with no points. It happens.

Well Marner does have a point.
- Fakepartofme

His only point he literally got when he was on the bench. 🤣

Pointing out because funny.

His only point he literally got when he was on the bench. 🤣

Pointing out because funny.
- joel878

LOL
It was funny...not too often you see that.

Hmmm coincidence?
When Marner played with JT, he ripped up his most goals or close to it as well.
- Fakepartofme

No, no coincidence. He racked up piles of assists off of Austons goals. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hmmm coincidence?
When Marner played with JT, he ripped up his most goals or close to it as well.
- Fakepartofme

Naw, Matthews passed the puck to himself, same as JT when he almost scored 50 on Marner setups. Cause you know, JT is a perennial 50 goals scorer. Oh wait, that was just that year he played the whole year with Mitch Marner.

His only point he literally got when he was on the bench. 🤣

Pointing out because funny.
- joel878

spot on

I've watched them all so far yup. Useless. We can find players to do nothing but zip around whip the puck into a crowd and turn the puck over for way less than 10.9 million.
- joel878

I’m all for the the two unit argument, I just don’t think it’s fair to say Nylander hasn’t been productive. He’s done an average of 5PP goals a year while being the third guy in the plan to shoot.

That’s why I agree with you, 5 goals a year as the third guy to shoot or make him the primary guy on PP2 and I’m willing to bet he even gets better
- Dozzer

Willy loves to shoot now, leading the NHL in SOG atm. I don’t mind him taking shots, but it’s not a deadly shot unless it’s unexpected. A goalie can have all the time in the world to prepare for Matthews shot, but will still get beat. Maybe Willy in the bumper spot works?

I’d rather just have him on PP2

I've watched them all so far yup. Useless. We can find players to do nothing but zip around whip the puck into a crowd and turn the puck over for way less than 10.9 million.
- joel878

But not too many who got 90 plus pts.

When was the last time a Leafs player had someone score or be on pace for 90 plus pts in consecutive seasons?
Serious question...Was it Mo, or Mats.....Gilmour?

No, no coincidence. He racked up piles of assists off of Austons goals. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

And half those pucks would have never have gotten to Matthews had it not been for MArner's magic.

- Zezel

Want to play a quick game of who's tied or out produced Marner so far this season?

I'll go first.

Timothy Liljegren.

You've got to admit, Marner could do something incredibly ridiculous like go an entire season without scoring a powerplay goal for 10.9 million and you would still defend him to death.

Want to play a quick game of who's tied or out produced Marner so far this season?

I'll go first.

Timothy Liljegren.

You've got to admit, Marner could do something incredibly ridiculous like go an entire season without scoring a powerplay goal for 10.9 million and you would still defend him to death.
- joel878

4 games in.
No one cares.

Lets talk at the end of the season

Want to play a quick game of who's tied or out produced Marner so far this season?

I'll go first.

Timothy Liljegren.

You've got to admit, Marner could do something incredibly ridiculous like go an entire season without scoring a powerplay goal for 10.9 million and you would still defend him to death.
- joel878

Something ridiculous like comparing point totals after 3 games?

Want to play a quick game of who's tied or out produced Marner so far this season?

I'll go first.

Timothy Liljegren.

You've got to admit, Marner could do something incredibly ridiculous like go an entire season without scoring a powerplay goal for 10.9 million and you would still defend him to death.
- joel878

Where did he rank in points overall during that season?

But not too many who got 90 plus pts.

When was the last time a Leafs player had someone score or be on pace for 90 plus pts in consecutive seasons?
Serious question...Was it Mo, or Mats.....Gilmour?
- Fakepartofme

Arguing with someone who hates Marner is a waste of time.

They’re just trying to be “edgy”

Want to play a quick game of who's tied or out produced Marner so far this season?

I'll go first.

Timothy Liljegren.

You've got to admit, Marner could do something incredibly ridiculous like go an entire season without scoring a powerplay goal for 10.9 million and you would still defend him to death.
- joel878

He's not paid to score on the pp.

I mean I agree, Id like to see a goal here or there as well.

4 games in.
No one cares.

Lets talk at the end of the season
- Fakepartofme

How much rope does a guy get for his money before its acceptable to question his performance?

Open question, for you and Zezel both.

Because anytime anyone does question his performance it's validated by some weird thing in the past or disqualified because of reasons that are convenient for Marner only. Let's set the parameters so we know when it's valid.

Arguing with someone who hates Marner is a waste of time.

They’re just trying to be “edgy”
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Not arguing.
Just discussion.

horrendous pp

He's not paid to score on the pp.

I mean I agree, Id like to see a goal here or there as well.
- Fakepartofme

I would argue that literally anyone in the league who gets paid his kind of money is paid to score on the PP.

Come on now, people wouldn't even give Drew Doughty a pass if he were to go an entire season without a powerplay goal.

How much rope does a guy get for his money before its acceptable to question his performance?

Open question, for you and Zezel both.

Because anytime anyone does question his performance it's validated by some weird thing in the past or disqualified because of reasons that are convenient for Marner only. Let's set the parameters so we know when it's valid.
- joel878

When he's been a point-per-game player since he entered the league and is a first team all-star entering his prime, he gets quite a bit of rope. Those aren't weird things, they are extremely obvious validations of his performance.

horrendous pp
- 21peter

Or a great Pk by the Leafs

Or a great Pk by the Leafs
- Steven_Seagull

absolutely!