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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Matthews return, Leafs vs. Rangers; Top 40 Prospects - #13
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
I think its just AA and a few other guys who can't let go of Marners subpar playoffs last year. I get its their opinion, but goddamn, try talking about someone else for a change.
Campbell and Bunting have been Aces

- UsernameUnknown

Ive also liked Kampfire's play as well so far, not getting pts, which is fine not what we need him for.
(I mean of course, pts are good obviously)
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Oct 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
Meh, he got a point last night playing on his line for the first time

Nylander: 4P
Tavares: 2P
Marner: 1P
Matthews: 0P

A bit of a slow start but they’ll all get going soon enough

- Dozzer

Yeah for sure they will. Like I said, I'm not particularly worried yet, because the chances are there. At least for individuals. I still worry about the consistency of their play as a whole, but they'll either figure it out or they won't. Up to them to decide if they wanna win a championship or not.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:22 PM ET
I think its just AA and a few other guys who can't let go of Marners subpar playoffs last year. I get its their opinion, but goddamn, try talking about someone else for a change.
Campbell and Bunting have been Aces

- UsernameUnknown



If any of the forwards are getting traded, it's one of those two....

No need to crap on either of them though, they're both awesome players. Marner obviusly better, but Nylander is no slouch man. When you've got someone like him on the second line capable of scoring 30 goals, no need to whinge and moan.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:22 PM ET
sure, the first 10 games of a season are a roll of the dice, for the most part.

But it's the same for every team. Everyone is still getting used to linemates and stuff.

you always get some funky results for the first portion of a season.

I recall one year seeing Phaneuf leading the league in almost every category for like 5 or 6 games.... LOL. Assits, points, plus minus. The NHL leaderboard was hilarious. Phaneuf's ugly mug everywhere.l

- prock


Agreed, I basically won’t judge the team fully til about a dozen games have been played.

I also certainly hope Keefe doesn’t start mixing up the lines before then as well.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
No openly insulting other posters
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
Agreed, I basically won’t judge the team fully til about a dozen games have been played.

I also certainly hope Keefe doesn’t start mixing up the lines before then as well.

- Dozzer



I don't mind line mixing. Maybe not every game, but get them all used to each other. Try different things. Nothing wrong with seeing if things work, especially this early.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 19 @ 1:24 PM ET
He's been very underwhelming so far, and makes just as much as Marner, but it's crickets when it comes to his play this year. Not that I'm advocating jumping down his throat. Its 4 games deep.

I think the whole fan base is anxious as balls and still bitter about last year. So everyone is looking to pick their guy to sacrifice.

- UsernameUnknown


He was absolutely robbed by Forsberg on a few chances in those two Ottawa games.

He hasn't looked like JT yet - his pace is still off a bit, but I think he'll be over the 70pt mark by the end of the year.

He's still getting chances.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Yeah for sure they will. Like I said, I'm not particularly worried yet, because the chances are there. At least for individuals. I still worry about the consistency of their play as a whole, but they'll either figure it out or they won't. Up to them to decide if they wanna win a championship or not.
- UsernameUnknown


As they break free of their slow start their confidence will rise and you’ll see them playing more motivated I guarantee it.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
For you to say this on the back of what you say about Willie is very telling.

You're straight up wrong about Willie. Period. It's an obvious hate for a certain player regardless...I get it, I do it with Marner and Engvall. I did it with Gardner and Marincin. We all do it. But some admit it.

PS, I watched Engvall, Marner and few others slow skate back to the bench last night. They all do it at times but you are apparently only watching one player do it.

I admit my hatred for Marner and Engvall isn't warranted at times. And realize their value in the line up. But I have to direct my anger and dry sense of humor some where when the Leafs lose. You do it with Willie but don't ever admit to doing it which makes it even more ridiculous.

Just sayin AA....you've been off on this one for a long time.

- Barb34

(frank)er
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
No openly insulting other posters
- Dozzer



Noted - try be more discreet when insulting others.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
No openly insulting other posters
- Dozzer


(frank) you.


Eerrr. I mean. hey how you been? 🤘🏽
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
I don't mind line mixing. Maybe not every game, but get them all used to each other. Try different things. Nothing wrong with seeing if things work, especially this early.
- prock


That’s what their doing hence the dozen game wait to change things.

People need to stop blaming the 3rd guy who’s job is to simply augment a line of stars

Until the top 4 truly get going neither of those top lines will be impressive
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
I don't mind line mixing. Maybe not every game, but get them all used to each other. Try different things. Nothing wrong with seeing if things work, especially this early.
- prock

Not gonna lie, Im not all that confident in Keefe's coaching yet. I understand he has a great record with a superstar team (I feel like almost any coach would if the team liked him), just not completely sold on him, yet.
Unpopular opinion, I get it.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
If any of the forwards are getting traded, it's one of those two....

No need to crap on either of them though, they're both awesome players. Marner obviusly better, but Nylander is no slouch man. When you've got someone like him on the second line capable of scoring 30 goals, no need to whinge and moan.

- prock


Dude, this thread is populated by bots programmed for whingeing and moaning.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Oct 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ive also liked Kampfire's play as well so far, not getting pts, which is fine not what we need him for.
(I mean of course, pts are good obviously)

- Fakepartofme

He has been quietly helpful. A very stable presence which is nice to have in the bottom six. Leafs have lacked that for a long time, given they've experimented so much with a "4 lines of offense" strategy. The defenseive side for both forwards and D is so much improved.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
Yeah for sure they will. Like I said, I'm not particularly worried yet, because the chances are there. At least for individuals. I still worry about the consistency of their play as a whole, but they'll either figure it out or they won't. Up to them to decide if they wanna win a championship or not.
- UsernameUnknown


2-1-1 with a completely dominating performance on the OT loss, and a game that easily could ahve been won wth the regulation loss.

It doesn't even make sense that there is "worried" talk at this point. its 4 games in, and they've got 5 of 8 points, and have dominated some games.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
(frank) you.


Eerrr. I mean. hey how you been? 🤘🏽

- Garnie


I chose drinking beer yet again last night so I’m somewhat decent lol

Yourself?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Not gonna lie, Im not all that confident in Keefe's coaching yet. I understand he has a great record with a superstar team (I feel like almost any coach would if the team liked him), just not completely sold on him, yet.
Unpopular opinion, I get it.

- Fakepartofme

Agreed.

But I think he has a team that’s hard to coach. There’s a lot of guys in the team with fragile egos.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
I chose drinking beer yet again last night so I’m somewhat decent lol

Yourself?

- Dozzer





I did too 🥰
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Not gonna lie, Im not all that confident in Keefe's coaching yet. I understand he has a great record with a superstar team (I feel like almost any coach would if the team liked him), just not completely sold on him, yet.
Unpopular opinion, I get it.

- Fakepartofme



No, he's not proven at all.

I'd give anything to have Trotz or Quenneville behind the bench. like.... what we thought we were getting with Babcock.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:30 PM ET


I did too 🥰

- Garnie


Lol that was the look on my face when I woke up today
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
No, he's not proven at all.

I'd give anything to have Trotz or Quenneville behind the bench. like.... what we thought we were getting with Babcock.

- prock

I don’t think the players could handle them.

Babs was too mean apparently, and he’s the same type of coach as those other guys.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Oct 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
He was absolutely robbed by Forsberg on a few chances in those two Ottawa games.

He hasn't looked like JT yet - his pace is still off a bit, but I think he'll be over the 70pt mark by the end of the year.

He's still getting chances.

- Monkeypunk


I know he'll be fine. They all seem to be slow out of the gate, but they'll get it together.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
No, he's not proven at all.

I'd give anything to have Trotz or Quenneville behind the bench. like.... what we thought we were getting with Babcock.

- prock


Keefe will get it done, he always has.

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
I missed Mackenzie Blackwood - because he's unvaccinated he may not qualify. Even if he does get vaccinated, because he's currently unvaccinated he may not qualify. But that's a different issue altogether.

I'm not sold on Hart. Last year he had a 36% Quality Start rate. That's freaking awful. Brian Elliot who is a mediocre goalie outplayed him by a noticeable margin. Alex Lyon - who is not even really a plug at the NHL level - outplayed him in a small sample.

So far this year in 2 games Hart has been ok (one good, one bad). He needs to string something together to prove he's stable and consistent and actually good. Binnington has been more stable, but he's also off to a bad start this year.

I like Fleury for his big-game ability and how his teammates always seem to pick up the game for him - but in his limited 2 game sample in Chicago, he's getting absolutely reamed.

- Monkeypunk


I'm sorry what?
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