I'm sure ill catch some heat for this, but I think he should have been suspended at least half the season (if not the whole). His selfishness could have put not just his teammates and coaches at risk, but also the training staff, whomever else around the rink and their families. Kane is a Real piece of poop. He won't get jail time because of his privilege.
- arichardson22

You have zero clue what your talking about.

Can we stop with the COVID/Vax discussions.
No one is ever going to change the minds of the nutcase anti vaxxers so why bother.
- TurdFergeson

The covid shot is not a vaccine. If you want to be a stupid lemming go head. Or, actually do your own research and learn what is actually going or your going to wake up one day and be a slave to the state.

The covid shot is not a vaccine. If you want to be a stupid lemming go head. Or, actually do your own research and learn what is actually going or your going to wake up one day and be a slave to the state.
- bird_dog_pa

"you have no idea what you're talking about"

You have zero clue what your talking about.
- bird_dog_pa

Yet the person making a grade school grammatical error does

Can we stop with the COVID/Vax discussions.
No one is ever going to change the minds of the nutcase anti vaxxers so why bother.
- TurdFergeson

Doesn't fit your narrative so we are all anti vaxxers and nutcases?? Typical of your side.
Don't mean to be a smart ass... but JESUS can we have questions??

Doesn't fit your narrative so we are all anti vaxxers and nutcases?? Typical of your side.
Don't mean to be a smart ass... but JESUS can we have questions??
- mikey

This isn’t the place for it. Go argue on Facebook.

What I don't get... Even with his bankruptcy, his pay is more than covering his debt. So if he doesn't want to be vaccinated (and I don't think anyone should be forced too). Why waste time with a fake vaccine card rather than just doing what other players are doing and still playing but not crossing the boarder for Canadian road trips.

If anything it would give him a bit of a rest mid season and he would still play the majority of games.

The fact that the vaccine drastically reduces infection and transmission is now proven on a vast, worldwide scale. It is one of the most thoroughly demonstrated realities in all of human history.
- Zezel

yep, just like 230 years ag they started to use that principle against tuberculosis

it diminish the viral charge hence the impact on you if you catch it and the transmission rate

Arguing against that is on the same level as saying the earth is flat, plain and simple

This isn’t the place for it. Go argue on Facebook.
- TurdFergeson

Love the user name!

rip Norm..

Vermont, the UK and Israel studies say different. Stop listening to Fauci the fraud.
What if Kane already had COVID? No reason to get jabbed.
- bird_dog_pa

As someone who lives in VT, I would appreciate it if you would elaborate with a detailed response that explains what you’re talking about.

Sure it reduces the severity of symptoms but it does nothing as far as transmission.
- Cptmjl

Wouldn't people want to reduce their risk greatly of having severe effects from covid and drastically reduce the chance of dying?

Does the vaccine drastically reduce the chance of hospitalizations? Deaths?

Yes it does and it's not close or debatable. Over 90% and most areas over 95% of hospitalizations in the US are those unvaccinated and about 98% if those dying are not vaccinated

So something is clearly working
- dmarsden2988

So I posted a link, with data, from the US National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health. Can you do the same? You've put out a lot of claims, with percentages, etc. Can you please share the sources that you got those numbers from? If we're trying to trust the science, I'd at least like to see how they came to those (wildly inaccurate) numbers you just rambled off.

Wouldn't people want to reduce their risk greatly of having severe effects from covid and drastically reduce the chance of dying?
- dmarsden2988

I would but some people for their own reasons do not. Maybe they already have natural immunity in some instances? I have a friend that actually works for the CDC that his antibodies level has not changed since he caught covid over a year ago. Why should he be forced to get vaccinated? Also, why do you care if it doesn’t effect you?

I would but some people for their own reasons do not. Maybe they already have natural immunity in some instances? I have a friend that actually works for the CDC that his antibodies level has not changed since he caught covid over a year ago. Why should he be forced to get vaccinated? Also, why do you care if it doesn’t effect you?
- Cptmjl

Because it’s about control. There are so many questions that the covid freaks can’t or won’t answer its mind boggling why a rationale person would be against discussing the pros and cons of shots, masks etc.

As someone who lives in VT, I would appreciate it if you would elaborate with a detailed response that explains what you’re talking about.
- habtastic62

The chart shows a pretty high spike in breakthrough cases. While the numbers aren’t huge in numbers it is possible that shot effectiveness wanes in time. Hence the need for boosters.

https://www.healthvermont.gov/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/COVID19-Weekly-Data-Summary-10-8-2021.pdf#page34[/img]

Yet the person making a grade school grammatical error does
- arichardson22

Actually yes. If pointing out that my use of incorrect grammar cancels my argument then you have worse OCD then I do.
I do at least know that I am not losing the debate instead of loosing the debate.
Just saying

The chart shows a pretty high spike in breakthrough cases. While the numbers aren’t huge in numbers it is possible that shot effectiveness wanes in time. Hence the need for boosters.

https://www.healthvermont.gov/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/COVID19-Weekly-Data-Summary-10-8-2021.pdf#page34
- bird_dog_pa[/img]

We are having huge spikes at the hospitals in Vermont largely because this is our tourism season. People from all over come here to look at our fall foliage. We call them peepers. Hotels are almost impossible to get due to the influx of tourists this time of year.

Many are attributing our current spikes to these tourists who are unvaccinated and won’t wear masks. We were doing just fine until peeper season started.

So I posted a link, with data, from the US National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health. Can you do the same? You've put out a lot of claims, with percentages, etc. Can you please share the sources that you got those numbers from? If we're trying to trust the science, I'd at least like to see how they came to those (wildly inaccurate) numbers you just rambled off.
- newenglandpuck

ok I'll play, that article you posted largely points to the other article :

Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing A Dramatic Surge In New COVID Cases. Here's Why

If you read more than the title, that article atually says :

the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category

Then lots of them did no go for their 2nd dose: "That means only 58% of Israel's total citizenry is fully vaccinated. Experts say that's not nearly high enough."

Article even goes on and promote a 3rd shot :' Booster shots offer more protection — if you are one of the world's lucky few to get them"

Remember when the left hated pharmaceutical companies? Remember when they didnt trust them?

Now they worship them. Such a strange turn of events. It's like they have no conviction behind their principles, ready to flip flop when they're told to.

ok I'll play, that article you posted largely points to the other article :

Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing A Dramatic Surge In New COVID Cases. Here's Why

If you read more than the title, that article atually says :

the rate of serious cases among unvaccinated people over age 60 (178.7 per 100,000) was nine times more than the rate among fully vaccinated people of the same age category

Then lots of them did no go for their 2nd dose: "That means only 58% of Israel's total citizenry is fully vaccinated. Experts say that's not nearly high enough."

Article even goes on and promote a 3rd shot :' Booster shots offer more protection — if you are one of the world's lucky few to get them"
- Xizord

I was more focused on what was going on in the US, but I'm glad you cherry picked what you wanted to talk about. The purpose of this was to find out if the vaccine and having a high population of people vaccinated led to lower cases of covid, what this found was that it did not, and in a fair amount of instances there are more cases of covid where there are higher rates of the vaccinated. See typically with a vaccine when you have an area that is highly vaccinated, you have low cases, and in lower vaccinated areas higher cases than those vaccinated areas, but what the data says is that even though there are areas that are highly vaccinated, they don't seem to be seeing lower rates of covid infections.

But then again the common cold is a coronavirus, and we haven't had a vaccine for that in well lets see, forever. So being vaccinated might help your immune system not have such a negative reaction, but it won't prevent you from getting it, spreading it, or dying from it (RIP Colin Powell) so the whole notion of needing everyone to be vaccinated to get herd immunity doesn't work when you factor all that in.

Remember when the left hated pharmaceutical companies? Remember when they didnt trust them?

Now they worship them. Such a strange turn of events. It's like they have no conviction behind their principles, ready to flip flop when they're told to.
- Sir_Robot_Farts

It's hard being on the left, always tip toeing around which fringe group of society you don't want to offend while appeasing the other fringe groups of society.

Imagine if they went for a government by the majority for the majority instead of catering to all these little groups, they'd actually accomplish stuff.

I was more focused on what was going on in the US, but I'm glad you cherry picked what you wanted to talk about. The purpose of this was to find out if the vaccine and having a high population of people vaccinated led to lower cases of covid, what this found was that it did not, and in a fair amount of instances there are more cases of covid where there are higher rates of the vaccinated. See typically with a vaccine when you have an area that is highly vaccinated, you have low cases, and in lower vaccinated areas higher cases than those vaccinated areas, but what the data says is that even though there are areas that are highly vaccinated, they don't seem to be seeing lower rates of covid infections.

But then again the common cold is a coronavirus, and we haven't had a vaccine for that in well lets see, forever. So being vaccinated might help your immune system not have such a negative reaction, but it won't prevent you from getting it, spreading it, or dying from it (RIP Colin Powell) so the whole notion of needing everyone to be vaccinated to get herd immunity doesn't work when you factor all that in.
- newenglandpuck

Well the goal as always been not to have too many people gravely ill at the same time not to overflow the hospitals, agreed that the vaccination wont eradicate the virus but smoothen the impact.

But then again its also proven that a vaccinated person that catches it will have a lower viral charge, so not to crazy to make the assumption it has less chance to spread it mathematically

Its also the first time this happens in a century to this level, so yes there a bit of impro, but I also believe they are doing what they can and every decision as good and bad, depending on what side you are looking at it...just need to pick the one with more good than bad (I.e. Global vaccination)

Well the goal as always been not to have too many people gravely ill at the same time not to overflow the hospitals, agreed that the vaccination wont eradicate the virus but smoothen the impact.

But then again its also proven that a vaccinated person that catches it will have a lower viral charge, so not to crazy to make the assumption it has less chance to spread it mathematically

Its also the first time this happens in a century to this level, so yes there a bit of impro, but I also believe they are doing what they can and every decision as good and bad, depending on what side you are looking at it...just need to pick the one with more good than bad (I.e. Global vaccination)
- Xizord

It’s not a vaccine it’s a therapeutic. Until just recently when conveniently the definition of a vaccine was changed it was defined as killing the virus so as to not get sick and to not transmit the disease period.
Now with having a shot that is solely made to target the original alpha covid 19 strain the jabs are recognized as not being as protective as claimed.
If your vaccinated what does it matter if someone else is not?
Many people already have had covid so why should they be forced to get the jab?
I have relatives who for medical reasons cannot get the jab.
So should they be shut out of any semblance of normal life?
There are numerous cases of deaths and injuries from these shots. No other medicine has ever had so many deaths and injuries attributed to it and not been pulled.
Why are healthy athletes forced to get the jab?
Why is the jab being forced on people when there are known and proven treatments for the wuhan flu?
Monoclonal antibodies
Hydroxychloriquine and zinc regimen, Vitamen D3
Ivermectin
Steroidal treatments

None of the jabs being given are approved other than for emergency use authorization.
The only way these jabs can continue is if no other treatments are available.
Comirnaty is the approved shot I’ve asked and it’s not available.
So the shot Biden is mandating is illegal. It is against federal law to make someone take a experimental shot under emergency use authorization.

Vermont, the UK and Israel studies say different. Stop listening to Fauci the fraud.
What if Kane already had COVID? No reason to get jabbed.
- bird_dog_pa

Some petrol in the water in Philly area or something?

Or was that your alt account?

Some petrol in the water in Philly area or something?

Or was that your alt account?

- Nasty_Duck

I don’t have an alt acct.