I re-activated my Hulu account and got ESPN+ . It is like 13 bucks a month. I totally forgot I had a Hulu account when there was a free option which from what I remember was crap.

Agreed this is just broad scope, I wouldn't agree with minimal impact, games played is valuable and these, even depth guys are all long term players on successful teams.

Players should be plug and play into an organization, the franchise should evaluate on ice talent of off ice chemistry and see if that player fits.

Murray and Botterill did not do that.

Adams talks about it but its still too early.
- washedup20

Sure, GP is valuable, but there needs to be an impact. Vesey has been a replacement level player for 3 years now. Plug almost anyone in and get the same or better results. That's my point. He had a couple seasons of 12/15 goals, so he'll still get the opportunity for short term deals, but moving the needle he is not. Peterson has still yet to take the crease from an aging and declining Quick, Ullmark is off to a slow start in Bos, Montour sure, and I already touched on Lehner. GP is only valuable to a certain degree.

You'd have to define high level first. SHL? KHL? My guess is most are, to a degree. Are most playing at a high level in the NHL? ROR, and before all the messiness Kane are probably the only two (BOGO with the cup you say?!?) And that is probably why we are where we are today. (Not counting Sam, Risto, and ultimately Eichel yet, but they can be thrown in there as well)
- SDSabre

How is Taylor Hall not example #1.

He’s been great for Boston

Sure, GP is valuable, but there needs to be an impact. Vesey has been a replacement level player for 3 years now. Plug almost anyone in and get the same or better results. That's my point. He had a couple seasons of 12/15 goals, so he'll still get the opportunity for short term deals, but moving the needle he is not. Peterson has still yet to take the crease from an aging and declining Quick, Ullmark is off to a slow start in Bos, Montour sure, and I already touched on Lehner. GP is only valuable to a certain degree.
- SDSabre

You cannot plug anyone into the NHL, all these players have had long careers, its up to the organization how use them.

Eichel. Ror and Hall are the only needle moving players. Rosters need valuable depth players at all positions.

You cannot plug anyone into the NHL, all these players have had long careers, its up to the organization how use them.

Eichel. Ror and Hall are the only needle moving players. Rosters need valuable depth players at all positions.
- washedup20

I’d call Ristolainen a needle mover

He moves it in the wrong direction, but moves it nonetheless

You cannot plug anyone into the NHL, all these players have had long careers, its up to the organization how use them.

Eichel. Ror and Hall are the only needle moving players. Rosters need valuable depth players at all positions.
- washedup20

I did not mean anyone, like you or I. Guys playing in the AHL that have also dedicated their lives to this. I really didn't think I had to explain that.

How is Taylor Hall not example #1.

He’s been great for Boston
- sbroads24

Sure enough, missed him. Probably due to his tenure being so short.

I did not mean anyone, like you or I. Guys playing in the AHL that have also dedicated their lives to this. I really didn't think I had to explain that.
- SDSabre

If those AHL players could on league minimum why do NHL GM pay these players more for same position?

I’d call Ristolainen a needle mover

He moves it in the wrong direction, but moves it nonetheless
- sbroads24

I think you are going to be hugging a picture of Risto when you go to your grave. That is a needle mover.

I’d call Ristolainen a needle mover

He moves it in the wrong direction, but moves it nonetheless
- sbroads24

I hope we see him play in the playoffs eventually.

If those AHL players could on league minimum why do NHL GM pay these players more for same position?
- washedup20

Vesey's last two, one year only contracts, have been very close to league minimum. And again, that's probably due to him having a couple 12/15 goal seasons and being a name people may recognize.

Pegula wasted assets, time, money and a committed passionate fanbase.

Eichel messed up his exit but played like an all-star while he was here. The narrative of bashing Eichel when fans should focus on ownership is interesting.

The new plan is to have 2 shots at another Eichel with the same ownership using the same approach...IMO management has a monumental task of:

1) Full season of stability - can the coaches and players handle an entire season without an epic collapse and can management make the right decisions to prevent breakdowns?
2) Build not re-build a new culture and have the balls to stand behind, this is a game of passion and reaction - pivoting as often as Pegula does ruins any chance at building real culture - can he hold strong?


There is more but this all has to happen while they also try to tank, Adams in stuck between a rock and a hard place.
- washedup20

He deserves to be bashed for his non-play issues, but it's absolutely ignorant to center this franchise's problems around him.

I think you are going to be hugging a picture of Risto when you go to your grave. That is a needle mover.
- GilPerreault11

Lame

Vesey's last two, one year only contracts, have been very close to league minimum. And again, that's probably due to him having a couple 12/15 goal seasons and being a name people may recognize.
- SDSabre

He got that name recognition for a reason. Vesey is on his last leg of his career but he's a good example of the Sabres organization because they traded 2 3rd rd picks for him.

He's definitely not worth that so if we are focusing on the player instead of the franchise, he is just a depth player that choose not to play for the Sabres and the organization traded assets for a player with that mentality

Anyone listening? Adams saying anything noteworthy?
- Powerslave

I'd say no. I like his approach to making this franchise great again. But there really wasn't anything new or interesting.

When they asked about if a trade was ever close, he did hesitate with an 'ehh I don't know'.. up to interpretation of what close means, but he's typically pretty honest and doesn't mind saying no. So I think personally there are teams in range here of meeting the ask.

I'd say no. I like his approach to making this franchise great again. But there really wasn't anything new or interesting.
- TheSabresTaco

I’d like to know what actual input Ventura/Galamini has on organizational moves but I doubt we’d ever know

comes off as...his entire professional life has been under the biggest weanie babie of them all. Pegula. Do you see where im going with this yet?
- washedup20

yes...it's been discussed many, many times...

*shrugs*

yes...it's been discussed many, many times...

*shrugs*
- Michael Pachla

Because it's still on-going...in real time...rumors leak...comment section of a blog about said topic...wild

He got that name recognition for a reason. Vesey is on his last leg of his career but he's a good example of the Sabres organization because they traded 2 3rd rd picks for him.

He's definitely not worth that so if we are focusing on the player instead of the franchise, he is just a depth player that choose not to play for the Sabres and the organization traded assets for a player with that mentality
- washedup20

Vesey is 28, not a 34 year old that's vet minimuming trying to collect a championship. He worked is way into a good situation for NYR, got his goals, and has been riding that momentum while being a very replaceable player. I don't recognize him as anything but a warm body in the NHL, and that's what he's been for 3 season now. Good on him for doing it, but he left Buffalo and hasn't found greener pastures.

He deserves to be bashed for his non-play issues, but it's absolutely ignorant to center this franchise's problems around him.
- TheSabresTaco

I think it is ignorant to bash just one person or coach regarding one year of failure. It has been a collective failure with its initial root beginning with Darcy and his wanting the tank and suffering to obtain premium talent that they had never had before besides Hasek and Vanek with the Pegula's ok.

GMTM then wanted to rebuild on the fly with the Pegula's ok and the trading of draft picks. The hiring of a numbers cruncher to be the GM in GMJB who was truly over his head but did draft a few good players perhaps. Ralph was not the coach to hire but to use him as the fall guy during a year he had COVID, the team had COVID, Jack beat up, and then nowhere to be found since he hurt his neck and playing AHL goalies often. Blaming Ralph is like blaming Biden for all of Afghanistan and its perils throughout the 20-year war.

Because it's still on-going...in real time...rumors leak...comment section of a blog about said topic...wild
- washedup20

fine...tell us something we don't already know

Lame
- sbroads24

the correct response was Yawn

I’d like to know what actual input Ventura/Galamini has on organizational moves but I doubt we’d ever know
- sbroads24

https://buffalonews.com/s...ec-ae9c-539e8250c269.html

Decent reed. My guess is that you don't hire Jason Karmanos, Sam Ventura and Dom Galamini, and they accept the position, without significant input, especially from the former 2. Kevyn is proving his intelligence by keeping with the modern game, and hiring people who know more than him and understand and accept the direction in which he wants to go.

Vesey is 28, not a 34 year old that's vet minimuming trying to collect a championship. He worked is way into a good situation for NYR, got his goals, and has been riding that momentum while being a very replaceable player. I don't recognize him as anything but a warm body in the NHL, and that's what he's been for 3 season now. Good on him for doing it, but he left Buffalo and hasn't found greener pastures.
- SDSabre

You're stuck on a player while the point is that its a failed organization. Vesey is still in the NHL whether you agree with it or not.

The player you think is average during his best days, turned the Sabres down then they traded for him. That is the point of this discussion.

I’d like to know what actual input Ventura/Galamini has on organizational moves but I doubt we’d ever know
- sbroads24

KA - "Were gona sign Cody Eakin"

Ventura/Galamini - "Please don't do that, hes a net negative value"

KA - signs Cody Eakin