I didn’t even bring him up, Doz.

But he’s a major reason for what’s wrong with the culture of the team.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You: I don’t bring him up *brings him up some more*

Kerfoot-AM-Nylander
Bunting-JT-Marner
Ritchie-Kampf-Kase
4th line

Kerfoot is a good player, 500K overpaid but he is a 3M player being used as a 1.5M player right now.

That top line is 3 pretty consistent players.

The 2nd line hasn't been tried yet but could work.

Kampf/Kase are going to do there thing regardless of who plays with them.

Third lines role is to shut down top lines and get puck into opposition zone for the big boys. Fourth line provides some zip and some scoring. There’s a temptation to give Spezza more minutes but does that leave him with nothing for playoffs
- Canada Cup

Exactly, people need to stop expecting loads of point production by the 3rd line

In what sense?

He has 2 goals. It’s a little early to be up on that high horse demanding a triumph.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He has been great the last 2 seasons.

Go back read at your Willy comments if you wish.

I am just pointing this out because your comment above. You were wrong but keep back peddling

You: I don’t bring him up *brings him up some more*
- Dozzer

I didn’t bring him up originally.

You should delete the posts that lead to my posts that you delete.

When one of my haters starting pissing on about me, make him stop and we won’t have any problems.

Prime example.

He doesn’t play the right way. The last 3 games he’s been really, really bad defensively. He’ll get a goal, or make a nice play, and somehow it justifies every giveaway, flyby, lack of effort along the boards, fanning on the puck (which he does 3 times a game), and making plays that just kill the offence.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He doesn't play the way you wanted him to play. He will not be a Wendel Clark, Cam Neely, Gary Roberts type of player. It's not in his dna.
Have the Leafs let in pk goal?

Exactly, people need to stop expecting loads of point production by the 3rd line
- Dozzer

Kampf/Kase have been effective. If Marner and AM are scoring we are sitting here saying how great those 2 have been in their roles.

He has been great the last 2 seasons.

Go back read at your Willy comments if you wish.

I am just pointing this out because your comment above. You were wrong but keep back peddling
- Santo_44

That’s like, your opinion, man.

There’s more to hockey than putting up points.

Third lines role is to shut down top lines and get puck into opposition zone for the big boys. Fourth line provides some zip and some scoring. There’s a temptation to give Spezza more minutes but does that leave him with nothing for playoffs
- Canada Cup

This is not the case on teams that win Cups. Take a look at the third lines on those teams. Significant contributions offensively and defensively.

I didn’t bring him up originally.

You should delete the posts that lead to my posts that you delete.

When one of my haters starting pissing on about me, make him stop and we won’t have any problems.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You said you were never wrong.

Don't cry like a baby when someone tells you otherwise.

Kerfoot-AM-Nylander
Bunting-JT-Marner
Ritchie-Kampf-Kase
4th line

Kerfoot is a good player, 500K overpaid but he is a 3M player being used as a 1.5M player right now.

That top line is 3 pretty consistent players.

The 2nd line hasn't been tried yet but could work.

Kampf/Kase are going to do there thing regardless of who plays with them.
- Santo_44

Looked into the averages… as the 3C he was paid pretty much bang on due to league averages… as the winger tho he’s roughly 2.3 million too high

Since the third line looked it’s best with Engvall on the wing bump him up and have Ritchie play with the 4th line (since that’s where Keefe tends to send him as well)

I didn’t bring him up originally.

You should delete the posts that lead to my posts that you delete.

When one of my haters starting pissing on about me, make him stop and we won’t have any problems.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I’ve already told you that due to your previous behaviour you are now on a shorter rope than the rest of the posters.

Tell me how I should be modding one more time and I’ll ban you and your alts til 2022 so stop being mouthy

You guys don't seem to be thinking Leafy. The Leafs will beat the Canes 5-2 while being outshot for once and getting dominated. Then we can all go back to sleep before losing to some terrible team with a goalering performance.

It is the way.

Exactly, people need to stop expecting loads of point production by the 3rd line
- Dozzer

I didnt say he needed to provide"loads" of offence, btw. I said Kampf provides ZERO offence. It is not too much at all to ask some offensive contribution from 3C. This is why Chicago did not care that he walked.

Kampf/Kase have been effective. If Marner and AM are scoring we are sitting here saying how great those 2 have been in their roles.
- Santo_44

Oh agreed… it amazes me how the top offensive guys get passes and the the defensive guys get blamed when the leafs aren’t scoring

Looked into the averages… as the 3C he was paid pretty much bang on due to league averages… as the winger tho he’s roughly 2.3 million too high

Since the third line looked it’s best with Engvall on the wing bump him up and have Ritchie play with the 4th line (since that’s where Keefe tends to send him as well)
- Dozzer

He is getting 0 PP time and is on a line that starts in their own end 90% of the time.

I get it, he is a player that can play any role decently...but if he was going to be played in this role then he should have been traded.


He has the tools to be effective up in the lineup.

I didnt say he needed to provide"loads" of offence, btw. I said Kampf provides ZERO offence. It is not too much at all to ask some offensive contribution from 3C. This is why Chicago did not care that he walked.
- fifty__missions

Stop thinking Chicago’s lines are built identically to the leafs lines.

His job is to take faceoffs in his own zone, play defensive hockey against opposition scoring lines, clear the puck and get off the ice for one of the other lines.

The third line wasn’t scoring last year either and he wasn’t here.

He doesn't play the way you wanted him to play. He will not be a Wendel Clark, Cam Neely, Gary Roberts type of player. It's not in his dna.
Have the Leafs let in pk goal?
- dmnted

He’s the softest player in the history of the entire league.

Yeah Leafs have allowed a PK goal. And Nylander isn’t one of their main Pk’ers

Prime example.

He doesn’t play the right way. The last 3 games he’s been really, really bad defensively. He’ll get a goal, or make a nice play, and somehow it justifies every giveaway, flyby, lack of effort along the boards, fanning on the puck (which he does 3 times a game), and making plays that just kill the offence.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

There’s such a tendency to form an opinion and then express it which mean your locked in and can never waiver from it. You’ve certainly done that with Nylander. Very little on your list of Willie cliches is actually accurate. He’s pretty good on the boards and has worked well with Bunting on retrievals. He’s made some good defensive plays. I doubt he’s ever going to be a shot blocker but he’s reasonably responsible. And no, he doesn’t kill offense, quite the opposite in fact.

He’s the softest player in the history of the entire league.

Yeah Leafs have allowed a PK goal. And Nylander isn’t one of their main Pk’ers
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Less than 2 days ago you said he didn’t play PK at all

My god you’re a BS’er

You said you were never wrong.

Don't cry like a baby when someone tells you otherwise.
- Santo_44

When, Santo?

I’ll wait.

Less than 2 days ago you said he didn’t play PK at all

My god you’re a BS’er
- Dozzer

He is just a Richard, that's really all he is.

I didnt say he needed to provide"loads" of offence, btw. I said Kampf provides ZERO offence. It is not too much at all to ask some offensive contribution from 3C. This is why Chicago did not care that he walked.
- fifty__missions

once every ten games or so would be nice.

Less than 2 days ago you said he didn’t play PK at all

My god you’re a BS’er
- Dozzer

He started off killing penalties, then Keefe used him less.

That’s all I said.

Oh agreed… it amazes me how the top offensive guys get passes and the the defensive guys get blamed when the leafs aren’t scoring
- Dozzer

Who is giving passes to the big four? It's an idiotic way to build a hockey team. This is what happens when your 4 @ 40M get shut down - you're (frank)ed because the rest of your guys are a bunch of plugs. Teams have figured out that you just clog the middle of the ice against the Leafs. I'm saying they could use some contribution from the 3rd line. It's not gonna happen.