Lazarus, in today’s The Athletic, writes that rumors out there say that the lack of revenues due to Covid last season, and declining ticket sales this season, could stop Rocky / Danny from making a move on Bowman and Colliton, both with new extended contracts - declining revenues causing them to lock down on costs. Paying them off and hiring quality replacements might be too much money going out for the family to bear.
- StLBravesFan

Don’t forget they are still paying Donut, Blunk, Hassen and anyone else they let go recently…Donut rewarded his team with big $$’s and multi year contracts. Millions of dead money being paid out over the next couple of years and firing Stan and JC will add to those totals.

Fine with me. Hopefully whoever chooses the replacements knows what they are doing.
- mohel

They certainly couldn't be worse than who's in charge now

the most recent former President is 75 - and wants to run again. The current president will be 80 next year. Is anyone particular happy with either of them?

Tallon was just 71.

How about getting someone with a normal-size prostate (or developing a woman for the job who hasn’t gone through menopause).
- StLBravesFan

I have zero doubt Marjorie Taylor-Greene played hockey somewhere in her past. Either that or Roller Derby. Perhaps she was in GLOW

He arrived there in 2011. Ten years. With lots of high draft picks. He even got fired during his time there. He also had some awful drafts in Chicago when he wasn't picking in the top three.
- mohel

Agreed. My suggestion of Dale was more tongue in cheek than anything else. My main point was and is that if you tear it down here the person who you bring in to rebuild it better have a very good record of evaluating talent.

Don’t forget they are still paying Donut, Blunk, Hassen and anyone else they let go recently…Donut rewarded his team with big $$’s and multi year contracts. Millions of dead money being paid out over the next couple of years and firing Stan and JC will add to those totals.
- ElkgroveMcD

Oh man, even the non 1-down people got contracts? Is that standard practice in pro sports? I can see the GM, the Coach, usually guys you don't want lured away by other suitors with bigger pockets, but the layers below them? Yikes

I still have Drew Doughty blasting away at us nightmares in the 2014 Conference Finals every time we lost the draw in our end.
- rpeters01

That's the Cup that "got away" and losing faceoffs was such a huge problem. Having Handzus start that series as L2-C was horrible. Q made a great move to get Shaw up to Line 2, but by the time he did that the Hawks were down 3-1. Hawks were the better team period, dot, end of sentence, but in a series anything can happen

The Hawks are 14th in the league in faceoff percentage, at 50.3%. Which shows how important faceoffs are.
- mohel

And good PK and PP numbers, just goes to show you how important 5 on 5 is. By the way, Toews went 17-6 @ the dot last night.

They certainly couldn't be worse than who's in charge now
- NamedSources

That's what Bulls fans said when they got rid of Krause. The Hawks can do far worse. Not so hard to do better at coach.

And good PK and PP numbers, just goes to show you how important 5 on 5 is. By the way, Toews went 17-6 @ the dot last night.
- Angotti

And looked to be getting back into rhythm on offense. Good signs from him.

The Hawks are 14th in the league in faceoff percentage, at 50.3%. Which shows how important faceoffs are.
- mohel

Faceoffs absolutely can be important. But it won't equalize a poopty team and a great team.

Honest question...When Q was fired the Hawks talked about accountability. Every day Colliton is still employed as a coach they are not holding anyone accountable. The fact he is still the coach right now speak volumes about the organization. He has never done anything as a coach to warrant the benefit of the doubt. This was Bowman's guy...this is the guy Bowman wanted to fire a hall of fame coach for.

Right before the season Bowman resigns GUS...a guy nobody wanted...because he can't play defense. I will say this...if he ends up taking ice time away from Kalynuk when he returns I will not watch another game until Bowman is gone.

Faceoffs absolutely can be important. But it won't equalize a poopty team and a great team.
- kwolf68

I guess.

This…

This…
- rtang415

The Wirtz family has owned the Hawks for 70 years, thru good times and bad. Wirtz Corp. is a private Company, Rocky only has to answer to family. The Hawks/Arena/etc. is probably 15% of the total value of the Corporation. If you think he is going to make a decision based on a maybe few down years, you are sadly mistaken.

That's what Bulls fans said when they got rid of Krause. The Hawks can do far worse. Not so hard to do better at coach.
- mohel

I disagree.

The problems with the Bulls were not because they fired Krause. Like Bowman he pushed out a Hall of Fame coach for ....Tim Floyd. Do you remember how bad those Bulls teams were? After Krause was let go Reinsdorf hired Paxson and failed to hold him accountable...and it ended up being a cycle of mediocrity. However, if Derrik Rose stayed healthy it would've been a different story....um...didn't they make the Eastern Conference finals at one point? So yes...it was better than last years of Krause

I guess.
- mohel

Trust me, I've seen enough to know they are important.

2-1 lead with 15 seconds left, D-zone draw, goalie pulled 6v5, I want that (frank)ing faceoff.

I guess.
- mohel

Winning 90% of face-offs couldn't shine the turd off this team...which is coached by Colliton and put together by Bowman.

Winning 90% of face-offs couldn't shine the turd off this team...which is coached by Colliton and put together by Bowman.
- NamedSources

Am I tounderstand that you are not a fan of JC and Stan?

Am I tounderstand that you are not a fan of JC and Stan?
- mohel

No real Blackhawk fan is, eh

Winning 90% of face-offs couldn't shine the turd off this team...which is coached by Colliton and put together by Bowman.
- NamedSources

Yeah it won’t matter when the D with the puck passes it to Murphy, who fumbles it and then coughs it up. And you could say this about the stone hands of all our D except Jones.

Winning 90% of face-offs couldn't shine the turd off this team...which is coached by Colliton and put together by Bowman.
- NamedSources

No argument. Faceoffs won't equalize teams, but in certain situations they can give you an advantage. I have learned this from coaching youth hockey. I can't recall a single bad call on a late period faceoff (I am almost obsessive over it). Though I do recall a good moment when we won the faceoff and some little kid who I am not sure his name sniped a game winning goal with mere seconds left in the game. There is a banner hanging in a local rink because of that. Was THAT because of the faceoff? Well if we lose the faceoff, we tie.

No real Blackhawk fan is, eh
- paulr

Apparently.

No real Blackhawk fan is, eh
- paulr

Did I ever say that?

Did I ever say that?
- NamedSources

Not you, but Bob did

Am I tounderstand that you are not a fan of JC and Stan?
- mohel

I've defended Bowman for years but now I can't watch mediocrity again and again...and mediocrity is being kind.

I was all for the rebuild...and content with watching young players develop over the next few years. That changed over the summer and I don't know why...especially when the fan base was told what was happening. However I was hopeful with the money they spent and figured with a weak WC the Hawks could surprise people.

Colliton cannot coach at this level. It is clear. The fact he was given an extension for being at best mediocre is wrong. If they talk about accountability then it's time to hold Stan accountable...and they are not nor have they in four years. Shaming people for having enough is ridiculous. The Hawks last won a cup in 2015...Since then they haven't made it past the 1st round. Even Theo Epstein knew it was time to walk away...and it's time for Bowman to do the same.

Saying that..."Well who is gong to replace Stan" or implying there is no one out there that can do better than mediocrity is one of the worst arguments to make when spinning your wheels and not improving.

Even if it is worse...and that's a big IF...you have to make the move.