I found there was a larger disparity between the top teams and the bottom teams in other divisions last year.

You had buffalo, anaheim, kings, detroit, sharks to name a few all in other divisions.
- Aaron_85

Yeah the disparity was larger in other divisions, but that's more because top teams in those divisions were still a higher tier than any of the teams in the Canadian one. Toronto was the only one I would have pegged as in the top 8 teams in the league.

Do you think Gretzky would accept Shanahans job? 🤔
- mr.sir

Yup for sure, he'd move Mikheyev to GM and Dermott to coach too. 🙄

Do you think Gretzky would accept Shanahans job? 🤔
- mr.sir

What makes you think he’d be any better?

What makes people think all these ex meat head players are the only ones that should get to run teams??

Guys what the (frank)?

Marner was useless except for getting completely walked.

Matthews non existent without the puck. Dude got cleanly beat by Aho at least a couple times.

The defense as a whole is just awful. They're way too deep in their own heads and the longer it takes to get out of there the worse this is going to get.
- BINGO!

for a second there I thought you were talking about the habs

Yup for sure, he'd move Mikheyev to GM and Dermott to coach too. 🙄
- joel878

Messier to motivate

(I apologize - not tech savvy)

A buddy of mine (godfather to my kids) is a hardcore die hard bleed blue guy. Never gives up. The phone call I just got and the text that followed was incredible. So angry man haha.
He absolutely loved Marner and then the ‘Marner + Daddy vs Leafs’ events took place. Instantly - Marner is dead to him.
The text included an Overdrive segment with ODog just laying into ALL of Dubas for being soft and Marner and his dad. Hilarious. I apologized earlier because I can’t link it up here. But the title of the segment is: ‘The OverDrive guys get fired up over Marner turning down deals | OverDrive

I couldn’t agree more with ODog. You make him the offer - he accepts that massive cash drop or you trade him. Done.
- Big23Questions

Overdrive: the intellectual equivalent of fat guys running around a track

Yeah the disparity was larger in other divisions, but that's more because top teams in those divisions were still a higher tier than any of the teams in the Canadian one. Toronto was the only one I would have pegged as in the top 8 teams in the league.
- BINGO!

Well technically habs ended up higher tier than all but one team in those other divisions lol

Just finished, weird Leafs would send their Jr B team to Carolina.

Overdrive: the intellectual equivalent of fat guys running around a track
- Canada Cup

I watch sports to nourish my inner Stephen Hawking.

Guys what the (frank)?

Marner was useless except for getting completely walked.

Matthews non existent without the puck. Dude got cleanly beat by Aho at least a couple times.

The defense as a whole is just awful. They're way too deep in their own heads and the longer it takes to get out of there the worse this is going to get.
- BINGO!

1 team plays hockey with and without the puck the other doesn’t. Those 2 teams are not even in the same league, this isn’t new. Canes been the better team for a few years.

Well technically habs ended up higher tier than all but one team in those other divisions lol
- Aaron_85

Nah. Playoffs aren't a good measuring stick of where your team is at, really.

Nah. Playoffs aren't a good measuring stick of where your team is at, really.
- BINGO!

So they were good the year before. Not S tier but they were good. I expect the same result this year overall.

It's 7 games. I will worry at 20 games like every other year we give a team to figure themselves out.

Sheldon Keefe: "I think we leave here a better team... I think there's a lot of good things that our team did here but also in the lessons that we'll take away that'll make us a better team."

Oh lessons, the millionaires learned some good lessons.

Need a new coach
- Fakepartofme

Not much incentive to work hard when you've already won the lottery.

What makes you think he’d be any better?

What makes people think all these ex meat head players are the only ones that should get to run teams??
- TurdFergeson

Ex meatheads? Yikes bud. That’s one odd thing to say. So because a guy played in the league he’s a meathead? An ex professional player couldn’t possibly have the high level understanding of the game necessary to create a good team as say, a guy who couldn’t even play Jr hockey? In order to run successful teams you need a University degree or be well versed in analytics? You can’t just know and understand the game and hire a numbers cruncher for salaries and cap issues?
My nephew graduated with a business degree from the Ivy School at Western and he absolutely loves puck. Was never good and didn’t play at a high level but loves the game - next GM of the Leafs?

Overdrive: the intellectual equivalent of fat guys running around a track
- Canada Cup

Sorry?
I don’t think people watch the show for Socio/political commentary or help with investing. I think they tune in to watch/listen hockey folks talk hockey.
2 ex Pro Players and a host who was a pretty decent player himself (at least a Jr player).

What’s with all the comments about players intelligence? You know they play hockey professionally and get paid to play hockey right? I’m a weird twist - the lack of intelligence might just be commenting on the intellect of ex professional hockey player on the subject of…….Professional Hockey.?

I’m not trying to be a Richard here and still, I have to ask, is any of this a result of the division that the Leafs played in last year? A lot of folks disclaimed that as a “thing” last year, but I personally, which doesn’t account for much, didn’t think that the Scotia Bank division was any good.
- RickJames77

*Looks at Oilers*

Yeah let’s throw that narrative out the window.

Sheldon Keefe: "I think we leave here a better team... I think there's a lot of good things that our team did here but also in the lessons that we'll take away that'll make us a better team."

Oh lessons, the millionaires learned some good lessons.

Need a new coach
- Fakepartofme

The post game media scrum is crap. You see doing exactly what he wants you to do by putting some heat on him and off the players.

It’s pretty obvious the Leafs have zero confidence right now and it’s obvious Keefe is trying to take as much pressure off them as he can.

Looks like the Leafs primadonnas needs more of this:

The comments here are like a dog chasing it's tail.

- AdamFrench

Colorado, TB, Vegas, Toronto all suck and will all miss the playoff. Yeah, we get it.
- Canada Cup

Those other teams have all earned a break from fans, or the benefit of the doubt. They win a round or two, go to conference finals, or the cup itself. You are just stroking Marner at this point with that comment. Edmonton finished like dog poop last season, do you think they let it carry over? No. They are playing like their lives depend on it.

Finally the leafs arent able to hide their weaknesses behind scoring, for so long so many fans looked the other way when it came to the leafs issues because they scored a bunch of goals.
Now that the other teams have figured the leafs out, (mainly because keefe doesnt change much up) those same fans are starting to jump off a cliff.

Still early
Go Leafs go.

(although we did see what early season losses did for the Jays)

But still early.

They're set up nicely for another milestone on Wednesday. Chicago hasn't had a lead all season. When do we think they break that streak? 2 minutes into the first?

i watched about 7 mins this time.