People talking about how bad certain players have been like Risto/Sanheim/Thompson/NAK and rightfully so. But rarely anyone mentioning how bad JVR has been so far.
- Buzzo

JVR has not been bad at all.

What I cant grasp is whatever player knew, and some did, how do you not go and beat the piss out of that guy? How does Beach not do it or call his buddies up to take care of business? Diff times I guess.
- hello it's me 2050

I read there was 37 players and staff that would not participate in the investigation. Love to hear those names and the reasons.

In the investigation report Beach said Aldrich threatened to ruin his NHL career AND lied saying he had an inside aid for getting Beach permanently on the Blackhawks. He was powerless.
- arichardson22

I get that part. He is a 20 year old young man. He wasn't powerless.

Thank you for the explanation. I 100% agree with you that the Flyers are winning in spite of themselves, i.e. they are not dictating play and playing too much in their own end. Except that in the 3rd period this year so far they have carried play a lot more and have won games as a result. So though the overall metrics are bad, like O-zone starts and team Corsi, I would like to see how the Flyers are doing period by period in this regard, because at least to me watching the games, the Flyers have at a minimum a 50% Corsi when it matters the most.

With Risto, I think you are discounting his ability to move the puck up ice. For example, on that first Flyers goal last night, it was Risto winning a battle behind his own net and getting the puck up the left wing to TK that started that play. And on the Hyman's goal, Risto won at least 2 battles along the boards in that sequence and got the puck up to Brassard who whiffed at it, allowing the defenseman to keep the puck in. In fact, Hyman was Sanheim's responsibility and Sanheim failed to get his stick in there to deflect the pass or shot. From me perspective RR played as good as he could or what I would expect from my D there.

My bar is the same as yours, I want the Flyers to be a cup contender. So far this year they are 3-1-1 in 5 games, 3 of which were against top teams in the league. They have not been perfect but they are showing signs at least to me that they can be a contending team, but they do need to start dictating play more and not play in their own end.
- jd250

No, I'm not discounting his ability to move the puck up ice. He historically has been really poor in the transition game. His play so far has shown me that it is accurate. I focus on more than just one play. I look at the overall picture.

The Flyers have shown that maybe they can compete for a playoff spot. I'm not sure what you're seeing that leads you to believe that they can contend to this point.

and certainly not worth $7M!
- jd250

In the same way that Ristolainen is not worth his cap hit or what his future cap hit might be.

In the investigation report Beach said Aldrich threatened to ruin his NHL career AND lied saying he had an inside aid for getting Beach permanently on the Blackhawks.
- arichardson22

Yeah, Aldrich paraded around the Black Aces saying that he had Q's ear and he could make or break a kids' chances. The rest of the coaching staff continually told the Black Aces to watch tape with and listen to Aldrich to increase their chances.

Beating that guy up was pretty much a non-starter for any career-minded individual.

And had to give assests to get gid of ghost for cap space

Yeah, Aldrich paraded around the Black Aces saying that he had Q's ear and he could make or break a kids' chances. The rest of the coaching staff continually told the Black Aces to watch tape with and listen to Aldrich to increase their chances.

Beating that guy up was pretty much a non-starter for any career-minded individual.
- Tomahawk

Exactly. However it’s bothersome no teammates took a stand or voiced support. They absolutely could have collectively said something, same as the other coaches. But I guess they didn’t care about someone who just joined the team. Just sad.
[url]

Anyone see who caused the turnover in the flyers end before G scored his goal?

Exactly. However it’s bothersome no teammates took a stand or voiced support. They absolutely could have collectively said something, same as the other coaches. But I guess they didn’t care about someone who just joined the team. Just sad.

- arichardson22

rookie initiation and all that other frat-boy crap

What I cant grasp is whatever player knew, and some did, how do you not go and beat the piss out of that guy? How does Beach not do it or call his buddies up to take care of business? Diff times I guess.
- hello it's me 2050

What I dont understand is why isn't the first response by Blackhawks management to call the police? I understand it was the playoffs and they didn't want to "distract" the team, but (and I dont mean to diminish what happened to Beach at all) how much of a distraction would it really have been? This was a video coach and a kid from the minors involved in this. It wasn't Quenneville and Toews. Sure, it would have made the news, but better than having this creep in your locker room and better than the backlash when the truth comes out...and it usually does.

Creeps like Aldrich prey on people that they feel they'll can get away with it on. I'm sure Aldrich did his research...just like he did with the 16 year old he assaulted. It wasn't about attraction. He didn't rape Beach because he thought he was cute. It was about finding the guy he felt he could intimidate and get away with it.

I get that part. He is a 20 year old young man. He wasn't powerless.
- hello it's me 2050

He felt like he was. Aldrich was looking for a good victim and he found one.

What I dont understand is why isn't the first response by Blackhawks management to call the police? I understand it was the playoffs and they didn't want to "distract" the team, but (and I dont mean to diminish what happened to Beach at all) how much of a distraction would it really have been? This was a video coach and a kid from the minors involved in this. It wasn't Quenneville and Toews. Sure, it would have made the news, but better than having this creep in your locker room and better than the backlash when the truth comes out...and it usually does.

Creeps like Aldrich prey on people that they feel they'll can get away with it on. I'm sure Aldrich did his research...just like he did with the 16 year old he assaulted. It wasn't about attraction. He didn't rape Beach because he thought he was cute. It was about finding the guy he felt he could intimidate and get away with it.
- Dkos

the media would have been questioning the players and coaches on whether they saw anything. i think that would have been a pretty big distraction. it's absolutely insane that this guy was able to leave the blackhawks and go on to having other jobs in hockey.

He felt like he was. Aldrich was looking for a good victim and he found one.
- Dkos

Beach had options is all I am saying.

the media would have been questioning the players and coaches on whether they saw anything. i think that would have been a pretty big distraction. it's absolutely insane that this guy was able to leave the blackhawks and go on to having other jobs in hockey.
- Ftown19125

IDK. Maybe for a day. Blackhawks would announce that this is a police investigation and they cannot comment.

Beach had options is all I am saying.
- hello it's me 2050

what exactly are you blaming the victim for?

what exactly are you blaming the victim for?
- bradster

yeah that is exactly what I am doing. Comical.

Beach had options is all I am saying.
- hello it's me 2050

We both know he had options. All I'm saying is that Beach didn't feel like he did.

What I dont understand is why isn't the first response by Blackhawks management to call the police? I understand it was the playoffs and they didn't want to "distract" the team, but (and I dont mean to diminish what happened to Beach at all) how much of a distraction would it really have been? This was a video coach and a kid from the minors involved in this. It wasn't Quenneville and Toews. Sure, it would have made the news, but better than having this creep in your locker room and better than the backlash when the truth comes out...and it usually does.

Creeps like Aldrich prey on people that they feel they'll can get away with it on. I'm sure Aldrich did his research...just like he did with the 16 year old he assaulted. It wasn't about attraction. He didn't rape Beach because he thought he was cute. It was about finding the guy he felt he could intimidate and get away with it.
- Dkos

KB wasn't even a kid from the minors. It was his first callup from JUNIORS. He had played a few games in Rockford, but it was essentially his first run at the pros. So he was basically a child in the hands of a predatory authority figure.

Anyone see who caused the turnover in the flyers end before G scored his goal?
- bradster

Was it the new whipping boy?

Until he has played more games I will not blame him yet. Yes mistakes will happen. But seems like every mistake he makes now is overly scrutinized. Was his 3 rd game under what. His 9 or 10 th coach. He’s not elite. No. But agree with you. He brings an element we haven’t had.

Was it the new whipping boy?

Until he has played more games I will not blame him yet. Yes mistakes will happen. But seems like every mistake he makes now is overly scrutinized. Was his 3 rd game under what. His 9 or 10 th coach. He’s not elite. No. But agree with you. He brings an element we haven’t had.
- Peter Richards

Ya, RR cause Oilers to turn it over with taking the man out in the corner, then the flyers started the rush

yeah that is exactly what I am doing. Comical.
- hello it's me 2050

Not really comical at all, but not sure why you are critizing the way beach handled it.

We both know he had options. All I'm saying is that Beach didn't feel like he did.
- Dkos

I'm sure he knew the options but may have felt that none were viable because of the power the perpetrator had over him, his career, and his future life.

JVR has not been bad at all.
- MJL

I actually agree whole heartedly. I just think the third line is a bad mix of players. They’re each doing their job but the chemistry isn’t there.

I'm sure he knew the options but may have felt that none were viable because of the power the perpetrator had over him, his career, and his future life.
- Scoob

yeah, it's not really all that hard to see that. aldrich made it seem as if he had the coach's ear and that he could dictate whether he was on the NHL team or never sniffed a chance again.

that report was disgusting.