They are 8 games into the season.

How do you develop chemistry when Green is switching lines every period?

There is no more excuses, it's sad out there. New faces, new hope ain't working, time for a new (frank)en coach and GM if he won't fire the coach.
- manvanfan

Overreaction dude

EP hasn’t come close to earning his raise. He held out & is slow outta the gate. He needs a demotion if anyone does.

Pod Miller Boeser
Pearson Bo Garland
Hog EP ???

Edmonton
NYR
Nashville
Dallas
Anaheim
@Colorado
@Vegas
@Anaheim
Colorado
Winnipeg
Chicago
@Pittsburgh

That takes them to US Thanksgiving. All winnable games, but can they get it together? Hopefully the stiffer competition will help them elevate their game.

Overreaction dude

EP hasn’t come close to earning his raise. He held out & is slow outta the gate. He needs a demotion if anyone does.

Pod Miller Boeser
Pearson Bo Garland
Hog EP ???
- Nighthawk

How do you know he “held out”? Should he have just accepted the first offer the club made?

It’s probably a little of both. If you adjust your system to be less aggressive then naturally the number of chances you give up should drop, which they have, but you should also see a reduction in the number of chances for as well, which I think we’ve seen.

But the top offensive players, especially Pettersson haven’t been good enough early on.
- 1970vintage

This team isn't built to be a defensive juggernaut.

Overreaction dude

EP hasn’t come close to earning his raise. He held out & is slow outta the gate. He needs a demotion if anyone does.

Pod Miller Boeser
Pearson Bo Garland
Hog EP ???
- Nighthawk

Yeah, that always solves all of the problems.

Edmonton L
NYR L
Nashville W
Dallas L
Anaheim W
@Colorado L
@Vegas OTL
@Anaheim W
Colorado L
Winnipeg OTL
Chicago W
@Pittsburgh W

That takes them to US Thanksgiving. All winnable games, but can they get it together? Hopefully the stiffer competition will help them elevate their game.
- 1970vintage

They could still be a in.playoff spot Sad division

How do you know he “held out”? Should he have just accepted the first offer the club made?
- 1970vintage

Was there only 1 offer?

Overreaction dude

EP hasn’t come close to earning his raise. He held out & is slow outta the gate. He needs a demotion if anyone does.

Pod Miller Boeser
Pearson Bo Garland
Hog EP ???
- Nighthawk

the sad truth is that with the biggest star on the team, you have to let him play himself out of it.

put the big line together and run with it. this isn't rocket surgery.

Yeah, that always solves all of the problems.
- manvanfan

Basically saying EP isn’t up to full speed & too much is expected of him. Not ideal on the 1st line yet til he gets into his rhythm.

the sad truth is that with the biggest star on the team, you have to let him play himself out of it.

put the big line together and run with it. this isn't rocket surgery.
- RealityChecker

I agree if TG runs it for many games & not tinker. That I’m not so sure he will do that. I’d play Bo’s line more if Pearson was demoted.

the sad truth is that with the biggest star on the team, you have to let him play himself out of it.

put the big line together and run with it. this isn't rocket surgery.
- RealityChecker

With having Miller on the otherside of the PP, you have eliminated the one timer, teams can easily shade over to EP then.

Time to give the PP a 2nd option. Boeser to the right side. Miller to 2nd PP.

Anyways still on night shift for a few more days so tine to crash. 👋

Basically saying EP isn’t up to full speed & too much is expected of him. Not ideal on the 1st line yet til he gets into his rhythm.
- Nighthawk

Professional athlete

Anyways still on night shift for a few more days so tine to crash. 👋
- Nighthawk

Sounds as if Torts isn't going to Florida right off the bat.

Canucks players could use some tough love

Alumni works well for organizations when they are placed in positions of power/influence.

Ask the Oilers...
- geta02it

lol

With having Miller on the otherside of the PP, you have eliminated the one timer, teams can easily shade over to EP then.

Time to give the PP a 2nd option. Boeser to the right side. Miller to 2nd PP.
- manvanfan

that makes sense as they do have the players to make a good 2nd unit.

but then you'd also have to look at time allocation between pp1 and 2. it only works if pp2 actually gets more than 20 seconds to work with.

Was there only 1 offer?
- Nighthawk

Nobody knows but them. But you are assuming that the player is at fault when the organization clearly owns some of the blame.

Sounds as if Torts isn't going to Florida right off the bat.

Canucks players could use some tough love
- manvanfan

Why would Lu agree to that? Does Lu have any influence? Torts is as stale as it gets.

that makes sense as they do have the players to make a good 2nd unit.

but then you'd also have to look at time allocation between pp1 and 2. it only works if pp2 actually gets more than 20 seconds to work with.
- RealityChecker

This. Funny on the broadcast last night where it looked like PP2 was going to get a minute and then 20 seconds later there was a whistle and PP1 was right back out.

I wonder what Shaw's impact has been so far – the team is better defensively (at least not giving up as many glaring odd man rushes), but has it come at a cost of some offense? Or is it just players not performing up front that's the main drop? Probably more the latter.

As for replacements, I don't have one person to champion. I posted this link the other day with available coaches/GMs, seems like there are some good candidates both inside and outside the box: https://www.espn.com/nhl/...didates-nhl-coach-gm-jobs
- NewYorkNuck

They've altered their forecheck strategy so the 2nd guy sits back a little bit more, it has caused less odd man rushes against, but now Van isn't generating enough high quality chances for because they're not in deep quick enough to capitalize on mistakes. That's what I've seen anyway.

You and I young man are going to have a talk after school...
- geta02it

Why would Lu agree to that? Does Lu have any influence? Torts is as stale as it gets.
- bloatedmosquito

I would say coaching experience. He has won a cup and he is good at teaching certain aspects of the game to players it seems.

How do you know he “held out”? Should he have just accepted the first offer the club made?
- 1970vintage

Petey was quoted saying he traveled to Van in the summer to try and speed up the process, I don't think he was the one being overly stubborn...

You and I young man are going to have a talk after school...
- geta02it

Make sure to go over his spelling homework with him a couple of times. He's struggling with it.