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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 29 @ 11:04 AM ET
the sad truth is that with the biggest star on the team, you have to let him play himself out of it.

put the big line together and run with it. this isn't rocket surgery.

- RealityChecker

Agree let the stars play out of their slumps dog-housing them at this point will only piss them off further. Probably tuning Green out anyways.

JTM-EP-BB
CG-BH-Hogs

Then after that do what you gotta do. Pearson should be on the 3L.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
They've altered their forecheck strategy so the 2nd guy sits back a little bit more, it has caused less odd man rushes against, but now Van isn't generating enough high quality chances for because they're not in deep quick enough to capitalize on mistakes. That's what I've seen anyway.
- NorthNuck

You can't dump and chase with a one man forecheck though.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 29 @ 11:06 AM ET
Make sure to go over his spelling homework with him a couple of times. He's struggling with it.
- Load Management

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:07 AM ET
They've altered their forecheck strategy so the 2nd guy sits back a little bit more, it has caused less odd man rushes against, but now Van isn't generating enough high quality chances for because they're not in deep quick enough to capitalize on mistakes. That's what I've seen anyway.
- NorthNuck

funny i was just about to write that they are much tighter and lower in the box defensively which makes the breakout a bit slower. that trickles down to what you wrote.

it's a tradeoff and i'm not willing to write it off just yet. this is obviously shaw's work so i'm want to see how the team adjusts.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:08 AM ET
Essentially this team is providing the same results as last season so far.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
Essentially this team is providing the same results as last season so far.
- VanHockeyGuy


Yup.

And now that JB has moved out all the whipping boys (JV, Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, Schmidt) all the hate is directed at Green.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
Yup.

And now that JB has moved out all the whipping boys (JV, Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, Schmidt) all the hate is directed at Green.

- dbot

I've hated Green since he was hired.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Oct 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Yup.

And now that JB has moved out all the whipping boys (JV, Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, Schmidt) all the hate is directed at Green.

- dbot


Myers seems to be getting his fair share. Hughes has a detractor or 2. But yeah, it's nice to see Green on the hotseat. It's overdue based on the results he's delivered.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
Essentially this team is providing the same results as last season so far.
- VanHockeyGuy

I find it suprizing really. Thought the Canucks made some great additions to the roster. Top 9 looked solid. Halak>Holtby, more mobility on the D.

I don't get what Green is trying to prove by benching certain players. Doesn't seem he's respected enough by his players to get away with that.

Just an observation from a hockey fan.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 29 @ 11:23 AM ET
I've hated Green since he was hired.
- Marwood

Congratulations!
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
I find it suprizing really. Thought the Canucks made some great additions to the roster. Top 9 looked solid. Halak>Holtby, more mobility on the D.

I don't get what Green is trying to prove by benching certain players. Doesn't seem he's respected enough by his players to get away with that.

Just an observation from a hockey fan.

- K-man25


On paper I like the players they added, they just aren't clicking or being deployed properly. I just don't want to hear "we need some time to gel".
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Congratulations!
- NorthNuck

Thank you!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
I've hated Green since he was hired.
- Marwood

I didn't like the hire. I gave it a chance, Green said the right things at the beginning. He wanted the team to play a way, which sounded great.

His execution just seems to have never lived up to his hype.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Oct 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Congratulations!
- NorthNuck

I’m starting to think Green is Capuano 2.0
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Yup.

And now that JB has moved out all the whipping boys (JV, Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel, Schmidt) all the hate is directed at Green.

- dbot

Myers is still here for some and Hughes is still here for Ruby.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Oct 29 @ 11:44 AM ET
I find it suprizing really. Thought the Canucks made some great additions to the roster. Top 9 looked solid. Halak>Holtby, more mobility on the D.

I don't get what Green is trying to prove by benching certain players. Doesn't seem he's respected enough by his players to get away with that.

Just an observation from a hockey fan.

- K-man25


Is it just me or do you have a spoon in the pot as well?

I think everyone expects more based on the off season. Actually the last few, but with the moves this year it was pretty clear they were nearing the end of the runway. They need results. So do the fans.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 29 @ 11:56 AM ET
I've hated Green since he was hired.
- Marwood

We know, you’ve never failed to complained about it.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 29 @ 11:58 AM ET
Is it just me or do you have a spoon in the pot as well?

I think everyone expects more based on the off season. Actually the last few, but with the moves this year it was pretty clear they were nearing the end of the runway. They need results. So do the fans.

- Load Management

No being serious. I may be a Flames fan but I still like it when their closest rival are good. Canucks and Oilers being competitive is good for fan hate, both ways.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 29 @ 12:01 PM ET
We know, you’ve never failed to complained about it.
- neem55

Shouldn't you be lounging in your banana hamoc by the pool, sipping on electric lemonades?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Oct 29 @ 12:02 PM ET
Shouldn't you be lounging in your banana hamoc by the pool, sipping on electric lemonades?
- K-man25


(frank), I wish I was!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 29 @ 12:03 PM ET
Morgan Reilly extension, 8 years at $7.5 mil
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 29 @ 12:10 PM ET
(frank), I wish I was!
- bloatedmosquito

I start the journey in 2 weeks. Heading down the coastline and into the Baja for a month. Then ferry to Mazatlanshort 6-7 hour drive to Sayulita.
I'll have a marguerite or 2 with Dbot's relatives.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 29 @ 12:15 PM ET
No being serious. I may be a Flames fan but I still like it when their closest rival are good. Canucks and Oilers being competitive is good for fan hate, both ways.
- K-man25


This made me emotional.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
Morgan Reilly extension, 8 years at $7.5 mil
- NorthNuck


60% of their entire cap is dedicated to 5 players.

Nylander, tavares, marner, matthews and Reilly.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Oct 29 @ 12:27 PM ET
60% of their entire cap is dedicated to 5 players.

Nylander, tavares, marner, matthews and Reilly.

- Codes1087

Nylander and Reilly aren't massively overpaid. The other 3 are though, and they will never win as long as they all remain on the team.
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