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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 30 @ 11:35 PM ET
I'd figure on a Saturday I would be able to stay up and watch this game in its entirety, but the lack of offense is making me tired.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:38 PM ET
dumb penalty by giroux
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:38 PM ET
was yandle part of that?
- bradster


I think so. Maybe we’ll put all forwards out for the pk?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:42 PM ET
Well, that stunk
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 30 @ 11:50 PM ET
you think morin is better than seeler
- bradster



Seeler has played well…but was lost on the Flames goal….awful coverage.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Oct 31 @ 12:11 AM ET
Seeler has played well…but was lost on the Flames goal….awful coverage.
- landros 2


i didnt think he looked good last game either
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 31 @ 12:13 AM ET
Nice Braves
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:15 AM ET
yea all these pks were eventually going to fail
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:15 AM ET
Nice Braves
- THE EVIL WITHIN

(frank) the cheatstros
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 31 @ 12:15 AM ET
Home cooking Canadian refs 🤡
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 31 @ 12:36 AM ET
Was there any silver lining here? Hart, perhaps
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 12:40 AM ET
Was there any silver lining here? Hart, perhaps
- Hesh_

not really no
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 31 @ 12:49 AM ET
Was there any silver lining here? Hart, perhaps
- Hesh_


4 out of 6 possible points on a Western Road Trip isn’t bad. Tell you what, that Calgary team looks legit if they can play like that consistently.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 31 @ 12:59 AM ET
This team is pathetic! Yeah, you could lose this game, but if it wasn't for Hart this would have been 10-0. They just aren't a good team. In other words.....they blow! The only good thing to take out of this was the fact that Hart looked good. The rest of the players are ZEROES!!! A typical playoff bubble team. Good night....BAD HOCKEY!!
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 31 @ 1:04 AM ET
This team is pathetic! Yeah, you could lose this game, but if it wasn't for Hart this would have been 10-0. They just aren't a good team. In other words.....they blow! The only good thing to take out of this was the fact that Hart looked good. The rest of the players are ZEROES!!! A typical playoff bubble team. Good night....BAD HOCKEY!!
- Phillywhiteout


Methinks thou dost protest too much

Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 31 @ 1:07 AM ET
not really no
- 2Real

he let in 2 at that point. is what it is, now
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Oct 31 @ 1:17 AM ET
Methinks thou dost protest too much
- Sublime55
Not at all!! If they would have lost 3-2 in a hard fought game I wouldn't have
said a word. That was a pathetic effort by a team that has had waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many pathetic efforts in the past couple of years. No tolerance for this BS and they haven't earned anything from this fanbase over the past few years. They decided to give themselves a free pass tonight and I have NO tolerance for this shyte!! Thanks!!!
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 31 @ 5:13 AM ET
Nice Braves
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Can’t bring myself to that. I’m just gonna pretend the World Series isn’t happening.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 31 @ 7:53 AM ET
4 out of 6 possible points on a Western Road Trip isn’t bad. Tell you what, that Calgary team looks legit if they can play like that consistently.
- Sublime55


All the Flames had to do was to limit the Flyers' rush chances to completely shut them down. Flyers are gonna struggle against patient, disciplined teams if they don't learn to play with the puck more, manufacture offense.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Oct 31 @ 8:09 AM ET
All the Flames had to do was to limit the Flyers' rush chances to completely shut them down. Flyers are gonna struggle against patient, disciplined teams if they don't learn to play with the puck more, manufacture offense.
- Tomahawk

To do this, they need more skill and speed. I think they have and will continue to improve in those areas, but they are not there yet. They looked gassed and maybe a bit disinterested last night
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 31 @ 8:15 AM ET
All the Flames had to do was to limit the Flyers' rush chances to completely shut them down. Flyers are gonna struggle against patient, disciplined teams if they don't learn to play with the puck more, manufacture offense.
- Tomahawk

They desperately need Hayes back, someone with some more puck possession and can carry the puck through the neutral zone. Giroux line is the only line with any offensive pressure
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 31 @ 8:32 AM ET
Good morning flyers fans. How are we today?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 31 @ 8:34 AM ET
It's not up to me to have a better solution. If that's the standard that you want to apply then don't let me catch you criticizing a move the team makes without offering an alternative. You also don't seem to understand that what I said is given the choice between trading a 1st, 2nd and a player for Ristolainen versus standing pat. I would choose standing pat. I have not any time in our conversation suggested that they should've stood pat overall.
- MJL


typing away on Friday and Saturday night. You the man dawg. Woof woof.

Hagg > RR
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 31 @ 8:38 AM ET
You keep using adjectives like great and called him a beast in a previous post. In the Summer you said he was a defenseman who checks all the boxes. It's becoming increasingly clear that you don't know what great play looks like. Or what a defenseman who is actually a beast looks like. There is nothing remotely approaching great in his play. He's a had a couple of games where he has just been okay. Otherwise he has been mediocre.

Just as examples of what a beast defenseman looks like on the ice. Watch Victor Hedman or Shea Weber play last year. That's an example of defenseman who are beasts. Hedman is an example of a defenseman who checks all the boxes.

In terms of players who are more the type of player that Ristolainen is. I would suggest watching players such as Jacob Slavin, Erik Cernak, Adam Pelech, Ryan McDonagh or Devin Toews play. Those are player that would be worth what they paid to acquire Ristolainen for. Ristolainen is not remotely in the league of those players.

Needing a physical presence. Give me Radko Gudas who is a better player at 2.5M a year back.

Earlier today you made the statement that you wouldn't want Morgan Reilly playing for 8 minutes on your team. That and your repeated ridiculous labeling of Ristolainen's play as great, is disqualifying from having any kind of a informed opinion.

- MJL

You think the Flyers could have acquired one of those players with the same package they gave up for RR?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 31 @ 8:59 AM ET
To do this, they need more skill and speed. I think they have and will continue to improve in those areas, but they are not there yet. They looked gassed and maybe a bit disinterested last night
- DaveofYork


It's more about good puck support, retrieval, management and simply winning battles.

Guys like Atkinson and Farabee can pick off passes and score off the rush, but do you really see them winning many 50/50 pucks? Same goes for G and TK. They all have to show more puck hunt and doggedness on the forecheck.

The only guys who are consistently getting their beaks dirty and winning battles with any consistency are the dudes on L4, Coots, Oskar and JVR. That's simply not enough.

They also dump the puck in and out way too often.
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