- 1970vintage

I miss Scooby's vitriol.

Absolutely. I’m sure King is responsible for things like breaking down film of the PK of upcoming opponents to look for weakness, but the coaches would discuss their plan and Green would have final say on everything.
- 1970vintage

Green's got a fresh contract, all he needs to do is keep repeating his narrative.

Could Bruce Boudreau be an option if there was a change?

Could Bruce Boudreau be an option if there was a change?
- VanHockeyGuy

Depends on what environment they want for their players. Boudreau is known as a players coach and I’ve read that he has a tendency to create a country club atmosphere. Maybe that will work for this group of players…

Maybe Jimbo can make a trade for some veteran help. Trading picks should do it. I'm sure it will work

Missed the game last night and just watched the hilights.
Wow that assist to Hughes on the Preds 2nd goal was outstanding.
Ruby is right.

Missed the game last night and just watched the hilights.
Wow that assist to Hughes on the Preds 2nd goal was outstanding.
Ruby is right.
- K-man25

They just need to get through this homestand, the fans in the stands are making it overwhelming for this group.

If it’s new coaching that ppl want what is it they are looking for in him?
For me it all starts with the roster that is currently built & would dictate the type of coach needed.

In goal we are fine.

The D is ok but missing a top 2 RHD that goes a long ways to being a contender. That’s a hunt that is never ending with drafting being the route to take. Don’t see another option unless a huge trade happens & that isn’t likely & would be very pricey if it did.

Up front down the middle is where I focus & imo isn’t getting it done. Bo is fine. EP is in a funk & needs the right compliments on his wings. His FO ability is horrible & he should put in major work on his strength to improve that. Miller is not the answer but ok for FO’s if needed. Dlcky given more time to fit in is solid 3C. Competition at the C position is organizationally weak overall.

Deep on the wing but miscast when building line dynamics. Hurts line chemistry & consistency & adds to breakout problems for the D. Messy & sloppy results that can be cleaned up. Familiarity comes over time for D 1st passes especially under aggressive forechecks but the blender effect adds to the difficulty.

My solutions…

Give EP wingers with speed & aggressive forechecking. Stick with them. Patience
Miller EP Garland

Bo needs a sniper & a speedy puck possession retriever. Depth scoring needs a strong 2nd line to share top 6 TOI. In game dictates how much.
Hog Bo Boeser

3rd line should be where we excel given our so-called better depth. A 200’ line that can score more than it gives up & PK mins.
Pearson Dlcky Pod

4th line needs top PKers speed & 8mins of high energy to set up the next line over the boards.

PP1
Boeser Bo Hog
Miller OEL

PP2
Garland EP Pod
Myers Hughes

PK1
Motte Dlcky
OEL Hamonic

Edit:

PK2
Pod Lammi
Schenn Myers

If it’s new coaching that ppl want what is it they are looking for in him?
For me it all starts with the roster that is currently built & would dictate the type of coach needed.

In goal we are fine.

The D is ok but missing a top 2 RHD that goes a long ways to being a contender. That’s a hunt that is never ending with drafting being the route to take. Don’t see another option unless a huge trade happens & that isn’t likely & would be very pricey if it did.

Up front down the middle is where I focus & imo isn’t getting it done. Bo is fine. EP is in a funk & needs the right compliments on his wings. His FO ability is horrible & he should put in major work on his strength to improve that. Miller is not the answer but ok for FO’s if needed. Dlcky given more time to fit in is solid 3C. Competition at the C position is organizationally weak overall.

Deep on the wing but miscast when building line dynamics. Hurts line chemistry & consistency & adds to breakout problems for the D. Messy & sloppy results that can be cleaned up. Familiarity comes over time for D 1st passes especially under aggressive forechecks but the blender effect adds to the difficulty.

My solutions…

Give EP wingers with speed & aggressive forechecking. Stick with them. Patience
Miller EP Garland

Bo needs a sniper & a speedy puck possession retriever. Depth scoring needs a strong 2nd line to share top 6 TOI. In game dictates how much.
Hog Bo Boeser

3rd line should be where we excel given our so-called better depth. A 200’ line that can score more than it gives up & PK mins.
Pearson Dlcky Pod

4th line needs top PKers speed & 8mins of high energy to set up the next line over the boards.

PP1
Boeser Bo Hog
Miller OEL

PP2
Garland EP Pod
Myers Hughes

PK1
Motte Dlcky
OEL Hamonic

PK2
Pod Lammi
Schenn Poolman
- Nighthawk

I like Myers on the PK. I'd also fire the Coach.

- 1970vintage

I like Myers on the PK. I'd also fire the Coach.
- Load Management

ole jimbo just got rid of some of his wasted money contracts and now he's going to have to go back to FA and ask him to get rid of another bad contract that was just signed less than 6 months ago.

ralph wiggum as a hockey gm

Could Bruce Boudreau be an option if there was a change?
- VanHockeyGuy

I still think the struggles of the team lies with it's 1C Pettersson, at this point.

But i'd be lying if I said I hadn't been thinking of replacement coaches too


What about Claude Julien?

I like Myers on the PK. I'd also fire the Coach.
- Load Management

Yes thought on Myers & fine by me 👍

Fire Green if a suitable replacement.
Idk who. Suggestions? That said he’s on the hot seat no matter what & only a big turnaround can delay him gone. Real growth & consistency is overdue.

I still think the struggles of the team lies with it's 1C Pettersson, at this point.

But i'd be lying if I said I hadn't been thinking of replacement coaches too


What about Claude Julien?
- dbot

Petey has been slow to find his groove. Doesn’t help Boeser is off his game. 13m top line getting poor value.

What do you see in Julien?

Petey has been slow to find his groove. Doesn’t help Boeser is off his game. 13m top line getting poor value.

What do you see in Julien?
- Nighthawk

An experienced coach, with a winning record, has a cup, who isn't named Babcock.
New face.

Petey has been slow to find his groove. Doesn’t help Boeser is off his game. 13m top line getting poor value.

What do you see in Julien?
- Nighthawk

i would think julien's defence and tough game approach.

that said, i don't think he'd be a fit with the way the team is constituted. seems too old school for this bunch. seems like it would set up conflict but that sometimes works to motivate players but is too risky imo.

the name babcock has been thrown out there and i'd want to interview him. he's got baggage which (looking at the redemption angle) could be have sparked growth and at least some humility. in practical terms, you can get him cheaper as he'll want to get back in the league. he's not getting a $50m maple leaf deal anymore.

An experienced coach, with a winning record, has a cup, who isn't named Babcock.
New face.
- dbot

my post was a "here's the exact opposite," to yours.

An experienced coach, with a winning record, has a cup, who isn't named Babcock.
New face.
- dbot

I’m down for all of that but it has to be the answer without fail. Must avoid a turnstile of coaches.

In Babcock at least I like him playing duos up front. After that idk if a fan of him & why I’m skeptical too.

Making Shaw interim coach be my easy choice & interview potential suitors. It has to be done right & gotten right for the longterm.

I’m down for all of that but it has to be the answer without fail. Must avoid a turnstile of coaches.

In Babcock at least I like him playing duos up front. After that idk if a fan of him & why I’m skeptical too.

Making Shaw interim coach be my easy choice & interview potential suitors. It has to be done right & gotten right for the longterm.
- Nighthawk

Yes thought on Myers & fine by me 👍

Fire Green if a suitable replacement.
Idk who. Suggestions? That said he’s on the hot seat no matter what & only a big turnaround can delay him gone. Real growth & consistency is overdue.
- Nighthawk

Ride it out with Shaw as interm. If he gets results no need to look further. If not it buys time to shop around.

Dan Bylsma an option?

Ride it out with Shaw as interm. If he gets results no need to look further. If not it buys time to shop around.
- Load Management

Plan ‘A’ & hunt & interview others. He can always be brought in as an AC

Jason King is also on thin ice.
EP & Boeser can save his ass if they get up to speed or he’s also a goner.
Still never liked Baumer but tough to clean house into a season.

there is no reality in where you can draw a line between Scotty Bowman and Jason King as coaches. Bowman was a winner before entering the NHL and when he did become the coach of the St. Louis Blues he took them to the Stanley Cup finals three straight years in his first three years.
- bloatedmosquito

did anyone see miller doing all the talking in the timeout, it was like f you king lets do it this way lol

In Bylsma I wonder if he gets the offence rolling like I think it can. He had success in Pitt albeit he had 2 world class C’s. Epic fail in Buffalo but they were a train wreck back then.

Babcock wouldn’t be a poor choice & if he gets it on the tracks it’d be sweet & in the Leafs face lol.

Still though any new coach has to squeeze out the talent JB assembled. There is enough there to make the PO’s. We lack an identity imo & it’s been too long finding one.