Yes to all of this.

It's too bad there's no pressbox for Coaches when they're performing badly.
- Load Management

Something novel maybe…

GMJB benches Green?

I backread the last blog and even in here . Everyone wants Green gone but I will play Devils advocate .

If by Thanksgiving the team really looks bad and out of the playoffs wouldn't Green be the guy to keep to ensure a top 5 pick? Lets face it after last year and this years start Green is not the only issue with the Canucks. At least I think he is not the only problem ?

I agree trading Miller but I would do it at TDL and not the offseason. Hamonic is another player to go at TDL maybe to Winnipeg for a third . Pearson has a full NMC this year but in the offseason can be traded.

I would run with the Lotto line until Miller is gone and see exactly what you have in Boeser seeing his raise next year will be close to 8 mil. If he is a third liner then you need to move when he has value , but I think he will get going and we will keep him.

In the offseason make full coaching and GM changes ( they really should have been gone this summer. Laurence Gilman has been an AGM for many many years , maybe now it is his turn? I would have him on a short list.

Maybe a banner or two as well?
- NewYorkNuck

I don't think it's worth the effort, this team is like an alcoholic it's not going to get help until it hits rock bottom.

I backread the last blog and even in here . Everyone wants Green gone but I will play Devils advocate .

If by Thanksgiving the team really looks bad and out of the playoffs wouldn't Green be the guy to keep to ensure a top 5 pick? Lets face it after last year and this years start Green is not the only issue with the Canucks. At least I think he is not the only problem ?

I agree trading Miller but I would do it at TDL and not the offseason. Hamonic is another player to go at TDL maybe to Winnipeg for a third . Pearson has a full NMC this year but in the offseason can be traded.

I would run with the Lotto line until Miller is gone and see exactly what you have in Boeser seeing his raise next year will be close to 8 mil. If he is a third liner then you need to move when he has value , but I think he will get going and we will keep him.

In the offseason make full coaching and GM changes ( they really should have been gone this summer. Laurence Gilman has been an AGM for many many years , maybe now it is his turn? I would have him on a short list.
- VANTEL

Boeser is starting to remind me of David Booth.

Boeser is starting to remind me of David Booth.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That might be a good comparison . Boeser doesn't look like he should be on another planet like Booth the the rest fits.

That might be a good comparison . Boeser doesn't look like he should be on another planet like Booth the the rest fits.
- VANTEL

Booth at almost 12 years in the NHL totalled 124 goals. Boeser entering his 4th year has broken 100 goals. Not a great comparison lol

I backread the last blog and even in here . Everyone wants Green gone but I will play Devils advocate .

If by Thanksgiving the team really looks bad and out of the playoffs wouldn't Green be the guy to keep to ensure a top 5 pick? Lets face it after last year and this years start Green is not the only issue with the Canucks. At least I think he is not the only problem ?

I agree trading Miller but I would do it at TDL and not the offseason. Hamonic is another player to go at TDL maybe to Winnipeg for a third . Pearson has a full NMC this year but in the offseason can be traded.

I would run with the Lotto line until Miller is gone and see exactly what you have in Boeser seeing his raise next year will be close to 8 mil. If he is a third liner then you need to move when he has value , but I think he will get going and we will keep him.

In the offseason make full coaching and GM changes ( they really should have been gone this summer. Laurence Gilman has been an AGM for many many years , maybe now it is his turn? I would have him on a short list.
- VANTEL

When Pouty said he wants to play for a winner, he wasn’t talking to JB. He was talking to FA. He’s not concerned with the personnel on the ice. His concern is with the personnel behind the bench and in the boardroom.

It’s time to make changes to the folks that run this franchise and do it fast your you’ll find this team rebuilding again in two years.

Booth at almost 12 years in the NHL totalled 124 goals. Boeser entering his 4th year has broken 100 goals. Not a great comparison lol
- LordHumungous

I know people that have met him and they said he is as dumb as an ox . That is why I could see a comparison .

I know people that have met him and they said he is as dumb as an ox . That is why I could see a comparison .
- VANTEL

Well there is that I guess and I remember Torts' comments on Booth lol

But somehow I don't see Boeser having three good seasons then disappearing into nothing like Booth.

I know people that have met him and they said he is as dumb as an ox . That is why I could see a comparison .
- VANTEL

Yeah they are/were both flaky scoring wingers.

When Pouty said he wants to play for a winner, he wasn’t talking to JB. He was talking to FA. He’s not concerned with the personnel on the ice. His concern is with the personnel behind the bench and in the boardroom.

It’s time to make changes to the folks that run this franchise and do it fast your you’ll find this team rebuilding again in two years.
- bloatedmosquito

I will admit I lost a bit of respect for Petey that day. Hell, even McDAvid never held the Oilers to 'build a winner or I'm gone'

When Pouty said he wants to play for a winner, he wasn’t talking to JB. He was talking to FA. He’s not concerned with the personnel on the ice. His concern is with the personnel behind the bench and in the boardroom.

It’s time to make changes to the folks that run this franchise and do it fast your you’ll find this team rebuilding again in two years.
- bloatedmosquito

I guess my problem would be where a team focuses around the needs of a player referred to as POUTY

I will admit I lost a bit of respect for Petey that day. Hell, even McDAvid never held the Oilers to 'build a winner or I'm gone'


- LordHumungous

Because he knew he'd be forced to leave town then

I guess my problem would be where a team focuses around the needs of a player referred to as POUTY
- VANTEL

true but I think that Pouty represents most of your “new age” superstars. They are different than yesteryear’s stars. As much as fans want their NHL team to be run like a military operation, it just ain’t going to work.

I’ve never run a pro sports franchise but have seen similar in business. Some companies don’t recognize the change in their workforce’s attitude, let alone their customer base. They fail to adjust and then wonder why they are no longer in business.

IMO, pro sports franchises are no different. The new NHL workforce reality is more emotional attitudes and need for affirmation, interests outside of what they are being paid to do, best players managing themselves like a brand, and a less strict workplace environment where employees have a greater say in what most would consider typical management decisions.

true but I think that Pouty represents most of your “new age” superstars. They are different than yesteryear’s stars. As much as fans want their NHL team to be run like a military operation, it just ain’t going to work.

I’ve never run a pro sports franchise but have seen similar in business. Some companies don’t recognize the change in their workforce’s attitude, let alone their customer base. They fail to adjust and then wonder why they are no longer in business.

IMO, pro sports franchises are no different. The new NHL workforce reality is more emotional attitudes and need for affirmation, interests outside of what they are being paid to do, best players managing themselves like a brand, and a less strict workplace environment where employees have a greater say in what most would consider typical management decisions.
- bloatedmosquito

I can see where you are going. Changes are happening.

I am not sure I will be watching too much if that is the direction of sports. I have dropped Baseball , Football and Basketball in the last decade .

The reason I continue watching hockey is because of players like Podkolzin Hoglander Garland Demko Bo . I want kids with Heart

I was quite turned off by the Pettersson Hughes situation this summer . I still really wonder about how Petey's injury came about. I see a divide with the team and when Vet players like lifer Edler Schmidt Holtby all want out then there are probably issues.

I can see where you are going. Changes are happening.

I am not sure I will be watching too much if that is the direction of sports. I have dropped Baseball , Football and Basketball in the last decade .

The reason I continue watching hockey is because of players like Podkolzin Hoglander Garland Demko Bo . I want kids with Heart

I was quite turned off by the Pettersson Hughes situation this summer . I still really wonder about how Petey's injury came about. I see a divide with the team and when Vet players like lifer Edler Schmidt Holtby all want out then there are probably issues.
- VANTEL

Edler didn’t want out. Fans wanted it.
Schmidt didn’t bring an answer nor play to his contract worth.
Holtby got paid & was in decline.

Petey & Hughes both need vets to lead them & there is not enough of em. Ppl are quick to joke about mentors but most of the core is young & too few vets in leading roles.

Lastly Vancouver must be the most toxic fan base I know of.

I can see where you are going. Changes are happening.

I am not sure I will be watching too much if that is the direction of sports. I have dropped Baseball , Football and Basketball in the last decade .

The reason I continue watching hockey is because of players like Podkolzin Hoglander Garland Demko Bo . I want kids with Heart

I was quite turned off by the Pettersson Hughes situation this summer . I still really wonder about how Petey's injury came about. I see a divide with the team and when Vet players like lifer Edler Schmidt Holtby all want out then there are probably issues.
- VANTEL

i think your right, all i watch is canucks hockey for the same reasons as you. I dropped other sports as well, we must be from the same generation

Edler didn’t want out. Fans wanted it.
Schmidt didn’t bring an answer nor play to his contract worth.
Holtby got paid & was in decline.

Petey & Hughes both need vets to lead them & there is not enough of em. Ppl are quick to joke about mentors but most of the core is young & too few vets in leading roles.
- Nighthawk

Insert head in sand gif

Edler didn’t want out. Fans wanted it.
Schmidt didn’t bring an answer nor play to his contract worth.
Holtby got paid & was in decline.

Petey & Hughes both need vets to lead them & there is not enough of em. Ppl are quick to joke about mentors but most of the core is young & too few vets in leading roles.
- Nighthawk

Yeah, I didn't hear about any offers made to Edler all year long, I think he just took the hint and saved face by saying that he'll be signing elsewhere.

Schmidt just didn't fit here, seems like a decent player, but clearly the chemistry wasn't there and I feel like he and Holtby just never fit in from day one, I like that Benning recognized this and moved on from both instead of being stubborn about it.


I also agree that the loss of Sutter/Beagle probably has hurt the locker room and the PK, plus in faceoffs, the coaching staff and players will have to adjust.

Thanks Carol, lol @vanhockey: exactly how teams feel when we roll out Poutys line

Yeah, I didn't hear about any offers made to Edler all year long, I think he just took the hint and saved face by saying that he'll be signing elsewhere.

Schmidt just didn't fit here, seems like a decent player, but clearly the chemistry wasn't there and I feel like he and Holtby just never fit in from day one, I like that Benning recognized this and moved on from both instead of being stubborn about it.


I also agree that the loss of Sutter/Beagle probably has hurt the locker room and the PK, plus in faceoffs, the coaching staff and players will have to adjust.
- Nucker101

Schmidt was Canucks best Dman last year

Holtby save percentage whent from 889 to 924 . His GAA went from 3.67 to 2.46

Schmidt was Canucks best Dman last year

Holtby save percentage whent from 889 to 924 . His GAA went from 3.67 to 2.46
- VANTEL

I thought Myers was better than Schmidt last season. Schmidt was smart to get out while he could though. Said all the right things but couldn't leave fast enough. Says a lot to me when he chose to come here in the first place.

I also agree that the loss of Sutter/Beagle probably has hurt the locker room and the PK, plus in faceoffs, the coaching staff and players will have to adjust.
- Nucker101

They've lost 5, 1 goal games - the PP & PK are getting destroyed - so the question is just poor luck/execution or does it need to be totally revamped - or a bit of column A column B?

I need at least a 4-7 game winning streak to convince me of anything

I thought Myers was better than Schmidt last season. Schmidt was smart to get out while he could though. Said all the right things but couldn't leave fast enough. Says a lot to me when he chose to come here in the first place.
- Load Management

Did he have a say in trade??