I wonder if it was more hostile than the work environment created by McD?
- mohel

No idea but I think the floodgates are open now.

No one is saying why he was fired or forced to retire …. yet ….
- paulr

Bettman is currently working with the owners of the Ducks to formulate believable excuses about how they had absolutely no idea of the toxic, abusive workplace Murray created within the organization over many years.

All I’d read about Dach was in junior he was strong defensively, he had good playmaking ability but had difficulty scoring. He should have stayed in junior like Gilmore did and where he learned to score and did put up big numbers especially in his later years in junior.
- paulr

Better yet he should have avoided the CHL like the plague and their Indentured Servitude Clause, come to the USHL, get drafted at 18, play a yr or two in the NCAA vs 21-22-23 yr olds playing weekend games, practice and weight train during the week and hit the ground running at the NHL level at 20-21 yrs old after a couple yrs in the NCAA...... The alternative coming out of Major Junior was be ball and chained to the CHL until you're 20 or go to the NHL too young and green like he did.

There is zero question which is the better path. The USHL/Jr A/NCAA path blows Major Junior outa the water.


Chicago residents go take a look see at the organIzation that had more kids drafted than any jr orgainIzation on earth the last 2 yrs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kvEzzzvVsw

Better yet he should have avoided the CHL like the plague and their Indentured Servitude Clause, come to the USHL, get drafted at 18, play a yr or two in the NCAA vs 21-22-23 yr olds playing weekend games, practice and weight train during the week and hit the ground running at the NHL level at 20-21 yrs old after a couple yrs in the NCAA...... The alternative coming out of Major Junior was be ball and chained to the CHL until you're 20 or go to the NHL too young and green like he did.

There is zero question which is the better path. The USHL/Jr A/NCAA path blows Major Junior outa the water.


Chicago residents go take a look see at the organIzation that had more kids drafted than any jr orgainIzation on earth the last 2 yrs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kvEzzzvVsw
- Mr Ricochet

This is insightful and makes great points. Thanks

I appreciate King's take on the use of analytics in decision-making (from The Athletic):

“Some guys like it; I’m not against it,” King said. “I like to look at it, but I’m going to sit down after this next game and go through all the stuff that only I need. I still do the packages, but this is what I’m looking at and they can explain to me how they’re breaking it down because everybody’s different. Right now, I’m trying not to look at a lot of things and just go with the flow and get to know these guys.

“I want to look at everything but I don’t want to base my decision on a kid not getting into the lineup because of analytics. There’s some truth to it but you have to have a feel for the kid and a feel for the team. My biggest thing is just the puck management, the risk over reward. You’re either a plus or a minus and that’s what I’m really looking at right now. Entering the offensive zone and you have nothing, and you turn the puck over there, that’s a minus. If you put it in deep and we have established a forecheck, that’s a plus. These are just simple things right now, but I’ll get into it as we go on here.”

Better yet he should have avoided the CHL like the plague and their Indentured Servitude Clause, come to the USHL, get drafted at 18, play a yr or two in the NCAA vs 21-22-23 yr olds playing weekend games, practice and weight train during the week and hit the ground running at the NHL level at 20-21 yrs old after a couple yrs in the NCAA...... The alternative coming out of Major Junior was be ball and chained to the CHL until you're 20 or go to the NHL too young and green like he did.

There is zero question which is the better path. The USHL/Jr A/NCAA path blows Major Junior outa the water.


Chicago residents go take a look see at the organIzation that had more kids drafted than any jr orgainIzation on earth the last 2 yrs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kvEzzzvVsw
- Mr Ricochet

You’ve posted something similar before. Not sure why NCAA exempts the USHL or Canadian minor junior but not Major Junior players? If NCAA isn’t a route kids are interested in, although I believe they should be, the three CHL leagues seem to be the leagues most Canadian kids gravitate to.

Well, they haven't faced alot of the tougher clubs much either. So I'm pretty sure this dynamic is going to go really bad for the Rangers. I would say this what happens when you let a dilitant run your club. Drury was a mediocrity as a Ranger and clearly continuing to mold the club in the style of game he played. On what planet would Blais for Buchnevich straight up be a good deal? Now with the Kravtsov B.S..... clearly management doesn't see the need to play a skilled- fast paced game or players with any sort of actual talent other then ramming a guys face through the boards. That's about all this team will be good for.

Well, they haven't faced alot of the tougher clubs much either. So I'm pretty sure this dynamic is going to go really bad for the Rangers. I would say this what happens when you let a dilitant run your club. Drury was a mediocrity as a Ranger and clearly continuing to mold the club in the style of game he played. On what planet would Blais for Buchnevich straight up be a good deal? Now with the Kravtsov B.S..... clearly management doesn't see the need to play a skilled- fast paced game or players with any sort of actual talent other then ramming a guys face through the boards. That's about all this team will be good for.
- Krakin Ass

Doug Armstrong still has a smirk on his face about that deal. I assume the Rangers didn't want to or couldn't pay Buchnevich.

Pretty serious roster adjustment as a reaction to Tom Wilson's antics.

Or maybe Drury figured they couldn't beat the Isles either with the roster he had.

Watching the Canucks / Avalanche game. Vancouver is playing like JC is coaching, they’re down 3-0 half-way through the 1st.

Doug Armstrong still has a smirk on his face about that deal. I assume the Rangers didn't want to or couldn't pay Buchnevich.

Pretty serious roster adjustment as a reaction to Tom Wilson's antics.

Or maybe Drury figured they couldn't beat the Isles either with the roster he had.
- RickJ

The Rangers have 11m in cap space. They could've easily had him stay looking at the deal he signed in STL and still signed another decent skilled player.

Drury decided Reaves and Blais as your Tom Wilson solution. How's that working out for them?

They couldn't beat the isles then, and they certainly couldn't beat them now either. I think if they played a 5 game set isles would take their lunch and beat them atleast 4 out of 5.

They lucked out with their phenomenal goalie is why they are still hanging around

Watching the Canucks / Avalanche game. Vancouver is playing like JC is coaching, they’re down 3-0 half-way through the 1st.
- DarthKane

Nice comeback by the Oil to beat the Bruins tonite.

22+ minutes for that washed up bum Duncan Keith.

DACH: Needs to spend time at the AHL level - too much loafing and plays pretty much die on his stick, as teams just let him skate into the zone to the boards, then just take the puck away from him. he obviously has no confidence right now - anyone seeing the same? Or is this my COVID evaluation?
- glennjpawlak22

I was at the Pens game last sunday and you're right on with this.

Nice comeback by the Oil to beat the Bruins tonite.

22+ minutes for that washed up bum Duncan Keith.
- RickJ

Byram had 8 points in 10 games going into tonight. He’s already picked up an assist after 1 period

Bryam > Dach

Doug Armstrong still has a smirk on his face about that deal. I assume the Rangers didn't want to or couldn't pay Buchnevich.

Pretty serious roster adjustment as a reaction to Tom Wilson's antics.

Or maybe Drury figured they couldn't beat the Isles either with the roster he had.
- RickJ

The Rangers have 11m in cap space. They could've easily had him stay looking at the deal he signed in STL and still signed another decent skilled player.

Drury decided Reaves and Blais as your Tom Wilson solution. How's that working out for them?

They couldn't beat the isles then, and they certainly couldn't beat them now either. I think if they played a 5 game set isles would take their lunch and beat them atleast 4 out of 5.

They lucked out with their phenomenal goalie is why they are still hanging around

Nice comeback by the Oil to beat the Bruins tonite.

22+ minutes for that washed up bum Duncan Keith.
- RickJ

Keith still looks good, when he’s got good teammates around him. Also doesn’t hurt when the forwards backcheck, support the defensemen and provide pass options.

Wanna bet by playoff time that 22 minutes is closer to 27 or 28

I wonder if it was more hostile than the work environment created by McD?
- mohel

At least Murph knew the game. But he could be very abrasive.

Keith still looks good, when he’s got good teammates around him. Also doesn’t hurt when the forwards backcheck, support the defensemen and provide pass options.

Wanna bet by playoff time that 22 minutes is closer to 27 or 28
- paulr

Nurse played 26 minutes, even Ceci got 21.

And yes, Keith's TOI will increase as the games get bigger. Tippett recognizes his on ice smarts, his conditioning and knows how to deploy him.

Keith still looks good, when he’s got good teammates around him. Also doesn’t hurt when the forwards backcheck, support the defensemen and provide pass options.

Wanna bet by playoff time that 22 minutes is closer to 27 or 28
- paulr

I’m happy for Keith, hope he was a great season.

Byram had 8 points in 10 games going into tonight. He’s already picked up an assist after 1 period

Bryam > Dach
- DarthKane

If the Hawks had drafted him he’d have been brought up too soon and destroyed.

If the Hawks had drafted him he’d have been brought up too soon and destroyed.
- Ogilthorpe2

He probably would have been included in the Jones trade (along with Boqvist and all the picks).

The Canucks are going to fire Jim Benning and the Hawks will hire him in the off-season.

Beach’s lawyer is trying to say that Beach’s potential career earnings were $60 to $100 mil. Uh …….. no

She may be overplaying her hand big time. The Hawks think that they have a strong legal position.

If it was a repressed memory for 10 years could it have effected his play? Seems unlikely.

Hawks are willing to pay for all reasonable past and future medical and counseling expenses. If he had such expenses for the last 10 years related to this issue were they really repressed memories as he claims as the reason for letting the statute of limitations expire.

I’m happy for Keith, hope he was a great season.
- DarthKane

Feel the same way. Played like a true warrior while in Chicago.