He's had 2 first time NHL head coaches. Why not try a new coach for 3 months before you judge the entire tenure? I mean if you were willing to can the GM 6 weeks into the season why allow him to trade 1 year of bad salary for 7 more?


You have to try a new coach unless you have a solid team ready to take over.
- golfingsince

I totally understand your point, I just think a full cleansing is in order and let the new guy/s do what they need to do to right this sinking ship, which Benning is the Captain of.

He's had 2 first time NHL head coaches. Why not try a new coach for 3 months before you judge the entire tenure? I mean if you were willing to can the GM 6 weeks into the season why allow him to trade 1 year of bad salary for 7 more?


You have to try a new coach unless you have a solid team ready to take over.
- golfingsince

He chose those two coaches. What makes you think he'd make a good choice with the third one?

This is another kid that would be a nice addition to the pool

https://www.eliteprospect...yer/340644/nathan-gaucher

The problem is is that if JB brings in a new coach, he could get fired so you have a new GM with a coach he might not want.

I think Shaw as interim is solid until you get a new GM in place and they can make that decision. Having an interim GM like RJ just to hold down the fort and run the day-to-day things of calling up players, putting people on IR, whatever else... no trades or moves, just a holding pattern until a new GM comes on board.
- NewYorkNuck

To me it sounds like a lost season.

I think a 2 year deal doesn't marry a new GM to anyone.

He chose those two coaches. What makes you think he'd make a good choice with the third one?
- NewYorkNuck

For 1 the team's circumstances have changed. A good coach can come in and make a difference now whereas before.....not so much. It's a far more attractive option so a coach looking to prove themselves again than it was 4 years ago.

Secondly, he has to hire a coach with a good track record at the NHL level. I want Babcock, some want Boudreau. If Q wasn't tied to that mess in Chicago i'd want him if he was available. I want a good coach, it makes a world of difference. If he can't teach his current assistants, he brings in new ones. The whole staff doesn't need to be replaced in 1 day but much of it could be.

For 1 the team's circumstances have changed. A good coach can come in and make a difference now whereas before.....not so much. It's a far more attractive option so a coach looking to prove themselves again than it was 4 years ago.

Secondly, he has to hire a coach with a good track record at the NHL level. I want Babcock, some want Boudreau. If Q wasn't tied to that mess in Chicago i'd want him if he was available. I want a good coach, it makes a world of difference. If he can't teach his current assistants, he brings in new ones. The whole staff doesn't need to be replaced in 1 day but much of it could be.
- golfingsince

Babcock 👍

For 1 the team's circumstances have changed. A good coach can come in and make a difference now whereas before.....not so much. It's a far more attractive option so a coach looking to prove themselves again than it was 4 years ago.

Secondly, he has to hire a coach with a good track record at the NHL level. I want Babcock, some want Boudreau. If Q wasn't tied to that mess in Chicago i'd want him if he was available. I want a good coach, it makes a world of difference. If he can't teach his current assistants, he brings in new ones. The whole staff doesn't need to be replaced in 1 day but much of it could be.
- golfingsince

What you're saying is all good and fine, but Benning and his track record don't necessarily line up with that.

Benning has talked about turning corners real fast with this team, so he brought coaches in who he thought could help take the "good" team he made and push them into the playoffs. Clearly, he hasn't been able to evaluate coaches – especially since he just gave TG an extension when he could have easily shifted gears now that "circumstances have changed".

And it's fine to want those coaches, but will Benning want that? Will those coaches want to come to a team with an unstable management situation? I personally don't have confidence JB will make the right call, and it will be another debacle in a years time.

What you're saying is all good and fine, but Benning and his track record don't necessarily line up with that.

Benning has talked about turning corners real fast with this team, so he brought coaches in who he thought could help take the "good" team he made and push them into the playoffs. Clearly, he hasn't been able to evaluate coaches – especially since he just gave TG an extension when he could have easily shifted gears now that "circumstances have changed".

And it's fine to want those coaches, but will Benning want that? Will those coaches want to come to a team with an unstable management situation? I personally don't have confidence JB will make the right call, and it will be another debacle in a years time.
- NewYorkNuck

A 2 year deal doesn't become a debacle. Again, i'm not against canning Benning and i've been a proponent of it for longer than most on here.

Any new management team won't mind a veteran coach in a contract year behind the bench unless he totally stunk it up the year before. At worst they have to hire a coach, they might inherit a decent one while they evaluate the entire organization and make a decision in a year.

It's a freebie. Benning would have kept Torts if it wasn't for that dumpster fire of a season prior and Tort's role in it.

This is another kid that would be a nice addition to the pool

https://www.eliteprospect...yer/340644/nathan-gaucher
- Reubenkincade

My wish

http://www.mynhldraft.com...er-profiles/David-Jiricek

I totally understand your point, I just think a full cleansing is in order and let the new guy/s do what they need to do to right this sinking ship, which Benning is the Captain of.
- Reubenkincade

You want to can them all mid-season that's fine with me. I don't want to give up on the season so easily, especially since I think this is probably the best roster we've had in a few years. I'd rather not go internal assistants promoted for the remainder of the season type of deal.

Thank you muchly Carol

Turned on the game at 4-5 turned it off at 4-6

Lord of the Large said last blog to keep "rolling" the lines (in jest) at Green's blender.... I concur, keep rollln those lines til Green's head rolls. (still think JB is a genius, but might have to re-evaluate if something doesn't change)

A 2 year deal doesn't become a debacle. Again, i'm not against canning Benning and i've been a proponent of it for longer than most on here.

Any new management team won't mind a veteran coach in a contract year behind the bench unless he totally stunk it up the year before. At worst they have to hire a coach, they might inherit a decent one while they evaluate the entire organization and make a decision in a year.

It's a freebie. Benning would have kept Torts if it wasn't for that dumpster fire of a season prior and Tort's role in it.
- golfingsince

Maybe – but again, that's if JB goes with a veteran coach. We don't know if he will. There are a lot of seemingly obvious things that most people see that JB has gone against

My wish

http://www.mynhldraft.com...er-profiles/David-Jiricek
- Nighthawk

I agree. I have posted him a few times. Been following him for a couple seasons now. Kid is going to be a good one.
Also, I am hoping the team has more than 1 1st round pick.

You want to can them all mid-season that's fine with me. I don't want to give up on the season so easily, especially since I think this is probably the best roster we've had in a few years. I'd rather not go internal assistants promoted for the remainder of the season type of deal.
- golfingsince

I also have mentioned a few times that I don't like the mix of players, mainly the so called core, so I am fine if the new regime starts picking away at changing the players also.

Maybe – but again, that's if JB goes with a veteran coach. We don't know if he will. There are a lot of seemingly obvious things that most people see that JB has gone against
- NewYorkNuck

I think ownership would have to insist on it or else they get rid of JB as well. You need someone that can come in and take command.

I think ownership would have to insist on it or else they get rid of JB as well. You need someone that can come in and take command.
- golfingsince

If management can't trust JB to make the right decision, it's time to get rid of him. Glad you finally came around

I think we all want a new, experienced coach. There are some very interesting non-NHL coaches whose names float around, but I think you can't really gamble on one at this moment.

I also have mentioned a few times that I don't like the mix of players, mainly the so called core, so I am fine if the new regime starts picking away at changing the players also.
- Reubenkincade

Can someone please still offersheet Petey so we can get 4 first round picks...

Sounds like I missed another thrilling defeat.
- Reubenkincade

I thought hey played better, couple unlucky bounces/calls. The PK is still pretty bad and losing Poolman is devastating for them, as pathetic as that is.

Babcock?
1) he’s a cunt who hasn’t learned from the past and doesn’t think he did anything wrong.
2) he’s still getting paid by the Leafs, handsomely.
3) he’s under contract with the University of whatever. He isn’t available.

Can someone please still offersheet Petey so we can get 4 first round picks...
- carsonagenic

That would have been excellent.

Babcock?
1) he’s a cunt who hasn’t learned from the past and doesn’t think he did anything wrong.
2) he’s still getting paid by the Leafs, handsomely.
3) he’s under contract with the University of whatever. He isn’t available.
- 1970vintage

I mentioned Lane Lambert earlier, who has been an assistant with Barry Trotz in Nashville Washington and Islanders.
Also, he nephew would be a nice selection in this next draft

I mentioned Lane Lambert earlier, who has been an assistant with Barry Trotz in Nashville Washington and Islanders.
Also, he nephew would be a nice selection in this next draft
- Reubenkincade

I don’t think this is a really good team with bad coaching (like the Blues were), so to me changing the coach with the hopes of saving the season - i.e. making the playoffs - isn’t a solution, just a patch. But I’m open to any candidate, previous head coaching experience or not.

Win or lose in Anaheim, I don’t believe they will make a change.

Hogz 10:23 ice time

2g, 1a, 5 shots, +2

All 5 on 5

Here's a player that needs more ice time.
- boonerbuck

Green said he wants to limit his ice time to 13-15 a game max.

I mentioned Lane Lambert earlier, who has been an assistant with Barry Trotz in Nashville Washington and Islanders.
Also, he nephew would be a nice selection in this next draft
- Reubenkincade

I heard that Trotz is looking for some new assistant coaches.

Moral victories from last night.

The new line combo's worked great.

Bowey, Burroughs, and Hunt with 3 offensive Dmen went better than I had prayed for.

The Canucks lost to a team without their top 2 centers.

Petey, Boeser, Horvat and Millers next contracts will come in cheap.