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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 10:15 AM ET
This is another kid that would be a nice addition to the pool

https://www.eliteprospect...yer/340644/nathan-gaucher

- Reubenkincade

I have to say, I haven't really watched any prospects in game so far this season. I'm going to let them sort themselves out first and just dive into a top 50 or so.

This is what I will look for though

A forward with speed and fast hands that isn't a short person. Example Kyle Connor

A D that plays a strong steady 2-way game that isn't physically overmatched constantly.
Example Adam Pelech

They need a right shot top 6 centre
Example Shane Wright

Unfortunately, Canucks don't have a 2nd round pick this season. Hopefully the next GM can get that back.



LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 14 @ 10:15 AM ET
Can someone please still offersheet Petey so we can get 4 first round picks...
- carsonagenic

Generally, not always, guys who miss the majority of camp tend to have down years...for whatever reason. This was not to be unexpected and it was called by myself and a few others before he re-signed.

Also, the chemistry since they acquired JT Miller has been off. In Boeser's first two years he had 29 and 26 goals, 16 of those were on the PP setting up in Ovechkin's office with the one-timers. His third year Miller came in and Boeser also got injured and everything seemingly changed. They won't post Boeser on that half wall to utilize his shot anymore???

Everything seems to be about making JT Miller happy, at least to me that's how it looks.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 14 @ 10:16 AM ET
I don’t think this is a really good team with bad coaching (like the Blues were), so to me changing the coach with the hopes of saving the season - i.e. making the playoffs - isn’t a solution, just a patch. But I’m open to any candidate, previous head coaching experience or not.

Win or lose in Anaheim, I don’t believe they will make a change.

- 1970vintage


I think the team is better than they've played, but it's a playoff bubble team.

Unless thing flip around soon, you have to try something like changing the coach. The team got crushed last year, and that sticks around emotionally. If they just keep the same path even though things are going off the rails again, that's going to seep more into psyche and create a really negative culture that will be harder to get past.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 14 @ 10:22 AM ET
Changing the coach to someone who's a professional experienced coach with much better systems play will make a difference even to the least talented team you can think of.

However, changing out the GM, with the current owner, isn't as easy as it sounds. Rumblings within NHL circles are that no one with any experience will work for the Aquilini group as they are too hands-on with the hockey operations.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 14 @ 10:29 AM ET
I honestly believe in my 'heart of hearts' that the franchise will not/cannot be successful under the current ownership group. Yes when they first took over the franchise they had success, however, they don't operate like they used to. Now, they are definitely more hands on than they used to be when they first bought the organization.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
Changing the coach to someone who's a professional experienced coach with much better systems play will make a difference even to the least talented team you can think of.

However, changing out the GM, with the current owner, isn't as easy as it sounds. Rumblings within NHL circles are that no one with any experience will work for the Aquilini group as they are too hands-on with the hockey operations.

- LeftCoaster

This #1 whiner guy

Grady Sas
@GradySas
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Nov 12
Willie D, Travis Green, Jim Benning, Trevor Linden…what do they all have in common?

All were hired under this ownership group with no previous experience in the exact role they had or have with the #Canucks at the NHL level.

Experience in the NHL matters.


He believes Canucks should go back to Gillis and Torts.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 10:36 AM ET
I think the team is better than they've played, but it's a playoff bubble team.

Unless thing flip around soon, you have to try something like changing the coach. The team got crushed last year, and that sticks around emotionally. If they just keep the same path even though things are going off the rails again, that's going to seep more into psyche and create a really negative culture that will be harder to get past.

- NewYorkNuck

The team is funking hard. Miller can't be asked by himself to drag the team into the fight every night.

Canucks for years have been missing players that what McNabb did last night. Unfortunately Benning is unable to draft players like that as well. Canucks not only have the softest team on the ice but I have seen absolutely nothing physical at all from any of their prospects. Even their biggest players are soft as marshmallows.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:00 AM ET
The team is funking hard. Miller can't be asked by himself to drag the team into the fight every night.

Canucks for years have been missing players that what McNabb did last night. Unfortunately Benning is unable to draft players like that as well. Canucks not only have the softest team on the ice but I have seen absolutely nothing physical at all from any of their prospects. Even their biggest players are soft as marshmallows.

- manvanfan


The Canucks are soft AF. FA will probably throw the twins into management when he blows up the team, more inexperience and another decade of rebuilding.

Get an experienced coach like Bruce Boudreau or go with Shaw. If there's bad apples in the room, get rid of them regardless of who they are.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 14 @ 11:01 AM ET
The team is funking hard. Miller can't be asked by himself to drag the team into the fight every night.

Canucks for years have been missing players that what McNabb did last night. Unfortunately Benning is unable to draft players like that as well. Canucks not only have the softest team on the ice but I have seen absolutely nothing physical at all from any of their prospects. Even their biggest players are soft as marshmallows.

- manvanfan

Very frustrating how soft this club is. Starts with leadership.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:02 AM ET
A loss to Anaheim tonight should do it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:07 AM ET
Very frustrating how soft this club is. Starts with leadership.
- LordHumungous

I stopped watching after the first last night, just saw the highlights on the rest of the goals.

The last two goals, Miller on his knee's gives it away. Hughes on his knee's gives it away.

I joked a few years ago the team needed a new trainer staff. I think now maybe I wasn't joking
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:09 AM ET
I stopped watching after the first last night, just saw the highlights on the rest of the goals.

The last two goals, Miller on his knee's gives it away. Hughes on his knee's gives it away.

I joked a few years ago the team needed a new trainer staff. I think now maybe I wasn't joking

- manvanfan


They should leave that for the dressing room.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 14 @ 11:13 AM ET
The team is funking hard. Miller can't be asked by himself to drag the team into the fight every night.

Canucks for years have been missing players that what McNabb did last night. Unfortunately Benning is unable to draft players like that as well. Canucks not only have the softest team on the ice but I have seen absolutely nothing physical at all from any of their prospects. Even their biggest players are soft as marshmallows.

- manvanfan


I think that comes down to culture too. You don't need to be the Bruins of old to have a backbone. Vegas doesn't have huge bruisers (especially now that Reeves is gone) but they still play tough.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 14 @ 11:14 AM ET
I stopped watching after the first last night, just saw the highlights on the rest of the goals.

The last two goals, Miller on his knee's gives it away. Hughes on his knee's gives it away.

I joked a few years ago the team needed a new trainer staff. I think now maybe I wasn't joking

- manvanfan

I shut it off after watching Horvat stare at the ceiling while OEL skated past him to take care of McNabb for the hit on Pods. When OEL got 4 mins for getting punched in the face you knew the refs had this one handled. But, all in all if Green gets tossed after the ANA game maybe we should thank the refs? lol
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:17 AM ET
The refs and bad bounces.



NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
The refs and bad bounces.
- Marwood


At least it wasn't a hot goalie
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
The refs and bad bounces.
- Marwood

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 14 @ 11:22 AM ET
At least it wasn't a hot goalie
- NewYorkNuck

Horvat didn't fight again.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:27 AM ET
Horvat didn't fight again.
- Marwood


Clearly the Canucks aren't a physical team, nor do they stand up for each other (aside from OEL). That's the culture, that's how they were built.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 14 @ 11:31 AM ET
Well at least #teamwhiner is happy...



VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:38 AM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think that comes down to culture too. You don't need to be the Bruins of old to have a backbone. Vegas doesn't have huge bruisers (especially now that Reeves is gone) but they still play tough.
- NewYorkNuck

Vegas aren't big bruisers but they are tough on the puck. They want it. Van players are not aggressive. They out hit Vegas last night but that's not aggression. Vegas players get the puck, keep the puck and fight for the puck.

Petey right now isn't big enough to hold off players in battles. Hoglander isn't big but he wants it and he's solid. Garland isn't big but he's an angry elf.

Hughes is nice, Boeser is nice, Horvat is nice. Not everybody on the team needs to hit 5 people a night but just want the puck more than the other team.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:51 AM ET
Vegas aren't big bruisers but they are tough on the puck. They want it. Van players are not aggressive. They out hit Vegas last night but that's not aggression. Vegas players get the puck, keep the puck and fight for the puck.

Petey right now isn't big enough to hold off players in battles. Hoglander isn't big but he wants it and he's solid. Garland isn't big but he's an angry elf.

Hughes is nice, Boeser is nice, Horvat is nice. Not everybody on the team needs to hit 5 people a night but just want the puck more than the other team.

- manvanfan


He was almost crying at the post mortem, then you get TG's BS to go along with it. They're soft AF.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 11:52 AM ET
The Canucks are soft AF. FA will probably throw the twins into management when he blows up the team, more inexperience and another decade of rebuilding.

Get an experienced coach like Bruce Boudreau or go with Shaw. If there's bad apples in the room, get rid of them regardless of who they are.

- VanHockeyGuy

I would say right now a lot of the Canucks players are finding out what it takes to win in the NHL. They had minor success in the bubble and teams took notice.

Benning said he thought the younger players needed to take a step forward and didn't, so he brought in help to do that.

Green is still a very inexperienced coach by any league's standards and it shows.

Obviously some blame has to fall onto the players needing to be better.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 14 @ 11:55 AM ET
Vegas aren't big bruisers but they are tough on the puck. They want it. Van players are not aggressive. They out hit Vegas last night but that's not aggression. Vegas players get the puck, keep the puck and fight for the puck.

Petey right now isn't big enough to hold off players in battles. Hoglander isn't big but he wants it and he's solid. Garland isn't big but he's an angry elf.

Hughes is nice, Boeser is nice, Horvat is nice. Not everybody on the team needs to hit 5 people a night but just want the puck more than the other team.

- manvanfan

Maybe we should have signed Reaves for a year? Set some examples...
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