I know people (booner mostly) is going to disagree with me, but I think it's time to face facts, this core and organization just doesn't have what it takes to compete. The bubble was clearly an anomaly that isn't repeatable, and for players who showed so much promise to have regressed so much, speaks to more than just coaching. We have a situation that is similar but on the opposite end of Toronto, where we have a core who by all measures should be able to at least get us a WC spot in the playoffs but can't. That's not only on the coach, but Benning as well, it's also on the players for not playing up to their potential. The only player that's consistently played up to their potential and did the most throughout the entire time here in Vancouver is Bo. That's one player, and while he's the captain, no sane person would ever try and claim that he's the most talented. He's at his best, a serviceable low end all-around 2C, and that's not something you build your team around.

In my mind, TG and JB have to be gone before Xmas and replaced with interims until the off-season when you can get a bunch of good candidates to interview and possibly hire. But this requires FA to start looking for a President NOW! One that can handle all the business end of things and all the meddlesome tasks so that the new GM can focus solely on evaluating the team, figuring out what it needs (even if that need is to completely blow it up and start over), and have the balls to do whatever is necessary to achieve it. Then find a coach that shares that vision and can execute it and had the experience, wisdom and the balls to get the team ready and hold them accountable when they aren't and be flexible when needed with young players.

IMHO, other than Demko, I can't think of any player on the roster I wouldn't have an issue trading.
- DariusKnight

Solid.

I know people (booner mostly) is going to disagree with me, but I think it's time to face facts, this core and organization just doesn't have what it takes to compete. The bubble was clearly an anomaly that isn't repeatable, and for players who showed so much promise to have regressed so much, speaks to more than just coaching. We have a situation that is similar but on the opposite end of Toronto, where we have a core who by all measures should be able to at least get us a WC spot in the playoffs but can't. That's not only on the coach, but Benning as well, it's also on the players for not playing up to their potential. The only player that's consistently played up to their potential and did the most throughout the entire time here in Vancouver is Bo. That's one player, and while he's the captain, no sane person would ever try and claim that he's the most talented. He's at his best, a serviceable low end all-around 2C, and that's not something you build your team around.

In my mind, TG and JB have to be gone before Xmas and replaced with interims until the off-season when you can get a bunch of good candidates to interview and possibly hire. But this requires FA to start looking for a President NOW! One that can handle all the business end of things and all the meddlesome tasks so that the new GM can focus solely on evaluating the team, figuring out what it needs (even if that need is to completely blow it up and start over), and have the balls to do whatever is necessary to achieve it. Then find a coach that shares that vision and can execute it and had the experience, wisdom and the balls to get the team ready and hold them accountable when they aren't and be flexible when needed with young players.

IMHO, other than Demko, I can't think of any player on the roster I wouldn't have an issue trading.
- DariusKnight

This is a knee jerk reaction post.


Jim Benning does need to go because he's stale and mostly because he didn't fire Green last season because Van media told him that he had to be extended.

Hoglander, Podkolzin, Garland, Demko. These should be the only untouchables. Our “captain” is Pathetic. The mainstays for the last 3-5 years are invisible.

Is it the coaching system or is it the players themselves? Is it worth just changing the coach and seeing if these players are just playing the wrong style for them? Or is it time to change out the GM too and then blow up the whole team and restart a rebuild?

I love the fact when the fanboys get rattled and somehow disappear
- VanHockeyGuy

Wtf are you talking about?

Jeff Paterson
@patersonjeff
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in their last 82 regular season games (over parts of 3 seasons), #Canucks are 32-43-7. That's 71 points. With 22 regulation victories

Green should have been fired 3 years ago.

I know people (booner mostly) is going to disagree with me, but I think it's time to face facts, this core and organization just doesn't have what it takes to compete. The bubble was clearly an anomaly that isn't repeatable, and for players who showed so much promise to have regressed so much, speaks to more than just coaching. We have a situation that is similar but on the opposite end of Toronto, where we have a core who by all measures should be able to at least get us a WC spot in the playoffs but can't. That's not only on the coach, but Benning as well, it's also on the players for not playing up to their potential. The only player that's consistently played up to their potential and did the most throughout the entire time here in Vancouver is Bo. That's one player, and while he's the captain, no sane person would ever try and claim that he's the most talented. He's at his best, a serviceable low end all-around 2C, and that's not something you build your team around.

In my mind, TG and JB have to be gone before Xmas and replaced with interims until the off-season when you can get a bunch of good candidates to interview and possibly hire. But this requires FA to start looking for a President NOW! One that can handle all the business end of things and all the meddlesome tasks so that the new GM can focus solely on evaluating the team, figuring out what it needs (even if that need is to completely blow it up and start over), and have the balls to do whatever is necessary to achieve it. Then find a coach that shares that vision and can execute it and had the experience, wisdom and the balls to get the team ready and hold them accountable when they aren't and be flexible when needed with young players.

IMHO, other than Demko, I can't think of any player on the roster I wouldn't have an issue trading.
- DariusKnight

I think this core could do much better under a new coaching staff. So you are off track mostly about what you think I disagree about. Coaches have to go,,, and I don't see Benning keeping his job much longer than Green's exit regardless of improved play. As far as the core goes, they have played better so they can play better. It's as simple as that. Roster changes are not the order you start with right now. Thats like changing 4 tires before you fix the broken down engine.

Wtf are you talking about?
- Nighthawk

Ignore his comments. He's a flat earther.

Considering how much different the game is today compared to the 80’s, better goaltending and defence, that is seriously impressive by McDavid.


Fewest games to 600 points: NHL history

Wayne Gretzky 274
Mario Lemieux 323
Peter Stastny 394
Mike Bossy 400
Jari Kurri 419
Connor McDavid 421

I think this core could do much better under a new coaching staff. So you are off track mostly about what you think I disagree about. Coaches have to go,,, and I don't see Benning keeping his job much longer than Green's exit regardless of improved play. As far as the core goes, they have played better so they can play better. It's as simple as that. Roster changes are not the order you start with right now. Thats like changing 4 tires before you fix the broken down engine.
- boonerbuck

Other than Petey and Boeser, pretty much everyone else is playing about career avg.

The team is broken, not the players.

Considering how much different the game is today compared to the 80’s, better goaltending and defence, that is seriously impressive by McDavid.


Fewest games to 600 points: NHL history

Wayne Gretzky 274
Mario Lemieux 323
Peter Stastny 394
Mike Bossy 400
Jari Kurri 419
Connor McDavid 421
- LeftCoaster

And he keeps getting better McGeez

As far as Canuck's young core being too soft. That can happen when you build through the draft with the philosophy of BPA. I'm not saying the Canuck's always drafted best player... that is always debatable but the strategy applied none the less. You will often be drafting offensive players who other teams passed on because they are soft and flakey.... in the end, you built a home for this player type. It becomes your identity.

Other than Petey and Boeser, pretty much everyone else is playing about career avg.

The team is broken, not the players.
- manvanfan

No Pres means nobody steering the ship. JB is at best an AGM & head scout. His coach will be his undoing.

Wtf are you talking about?
- Nighthawk

His few months off from posting here and life as a jilted fan.

And he keeps getting better McGeez
- Nighthawk

Lindros next on that list at 429 #Flyers

Lindros next on that list at 429 #Flyers
- LeftCoaster

Ended his own career thinking he was invincible.

Ended his own career thinking he was invincible.
- Nighthawk

Was a beauty to watch for a decade though

I still can't wrap my head around how only 4rth liners got less minutes than Hogz with the exception of Pearson.

Hated the Flyers ever since Clarke in ‘72 dirtily took out Kharlamov maybe the greatest Russian to ever play.

Since then he couldn’t fight his own battles without thugs. That said I kinda idolized him just like Makita when I was a C. Orr later when switched to D. Always was a Gordie Howe fan 1st. Shack made me laugh.

Considering how much different the game is today compared to the 80’s, better goaltending and defence, that is seriously impressive by McDavid.


Fewest games to 600 points: NHL history

Wayne Gretzky 274
Mario Lemieux 323
Peter Stastny 394
Mike Bossy 400
Jari Kurri 419
Connor McDavid 421
- LeftCoaster

Ya Im fairly certain he is the 🐐

Was a beauty to watch for a decade though
- LeftCoaster

No cups but he helped build the Av’s 👍

Should be in the HOF as a builder 😂

No cups but he helped build the Av’s 👍

Should be in the HOF as a builder 😂
- Nighthawk

I still can't wrap my head around how only 4rth liners got less minutes than Hogz with the exception of Pearson.
- boonerbuck

Smoke more weed…it’ll help you cope

- LeftCoaster

Thought you’d like that lol

Lindros was something else. 👍

Smoke more weed…it’ll help you cope
- LeftCoaster

Half a joint before bed is the only smoking I do these days. Maybe you are right, should smoke more but I typically drive every day and life as a suspended driver is undoable for my life situation.