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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 15 @ 4:21 PM ET
I thought I read that he was still having lingering issues with his neck, but I haven't been able to find anything to corroborate (or even where I thought I originally read it).

so this is what senility is like...

- Chunk


I'm glad I'm not the only one, didn't he get dinged, then went on vid protocol then was taken off, supposedly was fine from injury???

Very confusing
OGSixFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 10.31.2021

Nov 15 @ 4:26 PM ET
Grant Mulvey had a heavy shot, that’s hard to learn. Quick release with accuracy can be taught, Dach will be fine, I’ll take him over the other guys drafted with him, but let’s see how they all develop, you just never know as they are all 20 years old.
- Angotti

Grant Mulvey greatest game I ever witnessed was just before Christmas in `79 against the NYI when he scored 3 goals 2 in the first and then 1 in the 2nd after which Billy Smith went after him he beat the crap out of Billy Smith he ended up w 26 minutes in penalties as things got out of hand in the 3rd period and he got minor/major/game Misconduct, lost in the commotion was a shutout by Tony O. Hawks won 8-0.

Played against Mulvey in a mens league game in the late 80's (he was their ringer) and he absolutely had a heavy shot, I recall our goalie showing us the bruises on his upper arms and shoulders that went through his protective gear. Once the other team was up by 4 after 1 (GM had 3) he took it easy on us.

Yep I always liked Mulvey, Dach is no Mulvey, but that is OK because the game has changed from those days, Hawks need to figure out what they need/expect from KD and see to it that he gets whatever it is he needs to be successful in meeting expectations.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
Grant Mulvey greatest game I ever witnessed was just before Christmas in `79 against the NYI when he scored 3 goals 2 in the first and then 1 in the 2nd after which Billy Smith went after him he beat the crap out of Billy Smith he ended up w 26 minutes in penalties as things got out of hand in the 3rd period and he got minor/major/game Misconduct, lost in the commotion was a shutout by Tony O. Hawks won 8-0.

Played against Mulvey in a mens league game in the late 80's (he was their ringer) and he absolutely had a heavy shot, I recall our goalie showing us the bruises on his upper arms and shoulders that went through his protective gear. Once the other team was up by 4 after 1 (GM had 3) he took it easy on us.

Yep I always liked Mulvey, Dach is no Mulvey, but that is OK because the game has changed from those days, Hawks need to figure out what they need/expect from KD and see to it that he gets whatever it is he needs to be successful in meeting expectations.

- OGSixFan


My comparison was about an 18 year old that took 5 years to figure it out, and was a big 6'4 200lb player that couldn't stay on his feet the first couple of years. You are correct, different era's, different styles of play,

You could say that about Dennis Hull, who was unfairly compared to Bobby. He couldn't stay on his skates his first couple of years in the league either, and he had no clue where his shot was going, usually high and wide.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Nov 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
The Vid has struck the Ottawa Senators. Apparently, their next three games will be postponed.

With it becoming more clear that the jab doesn't last very long, I wonder how much more of this....stuff.....we will see?

- mohel


That is a bit misleading.... there are multiple parts to the human body's immune system. Yes, it does appear the vaccine's ability to stop transmission wears off after a few months but that is only one part of the immune system.

The vaccine still drastically lowers the severity of infection, the amount of virus that your body transmits when sick, and the length of infection. In most cases, a vaccinated person can clear the virus in a few days versus an unvaccinated person taking a week plus to clear the virus. That unvaccinated person is also shedding a higher amount of the virus during the infection (i.e. more likely to infect others).

That being said, you are correct. The government did provide misleading information about the vaccine. It really is not going to stop the pandemic... there will always be transmission of the COVID-19 virus, unless it mutates itself out of circulation. The vaccine helps lower transmission rates, the chances of you catching the virus, and the length and severity of the infection.

This vaccine's main purpose appears to be mitigating risk.

Hopefully, we start to see more over the counter treatments. The new Pzifer over the counter pill looks quite promising.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Nov 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
With Hagel's style of play and the Hawks' position in the standings, an extra week week after being cleared to play might be smart.

A bit mysterious on T. Johnson. Couple days ago sounded like he was good.

- mohel


Tired of Khaira in the top 6. So hopefully soon for one or both.
OGSixFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 10.31.2021

Nov 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
My comparison was about an 18 year old that took 5 years to figure it out, and was a big 6'4 200lb player that couldn't stay on his feet the first couple of years. You are correct, different era's, different styles of play,

You could say that about Dennis Hull, who was unfairly compared to Bobby. He couldn't stay on his skates his first couple of years in the league either, and he had no clue where his shot was going, usually high and wide.

- LAHawk

It has been my observation, often the "bigger" guys, can take a little longer to develop for a variety of reasons, but back in the day a 6'4" 18 year old was probably still trying to catch-up coordination wise, with the growth spurts associated with being above average in height. So I am in agreement with the "still needs time to mature physically, as well as adjust from the Junior game to the NHL game" comparison.

That is the area that I feel the hawks need to be better at, as far as assessing the skill, talent, level of compete, and physical attributes of their prospects and getting them what they need to get to next level. If that means another year of Junior, or staying in college, or going to the AHL. The past regime's track record of developing and benefitting from their higher end Draft picks is abysmal. I am sure someone knows how many 1st and 2nd round picks from over the last 5 years are still on this team. We should have to be trading our underperforming picks for another teams underperforming picks. I hope the new FO is able to be get a better result than the previous FO
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 15 @ 5:39 PM ET
The NHL Network on Sirius XM has a show called Hockey Prospects. They had Winnipeg's Asst GM on and the name Cole Perfetti came up - 10th overall pick in 2020. The moderator made the comment that he loves the way Perfetti is able to control and hold onto the puck looking to make plays. The AGM responded and said '"sorry disagree, it just isn't going to work in the NHL holding onto the puck at the blueline and circling, we are working very hard with him to play the game fast. Fortunately for him, he got to play in the AHL last year right after being drafted because many of the AHL players were serving on the taxi squad for NHL teams during Covid. Otherwise, Perfetti would not have been able to crack the AHL squad and would have been sent back to junior."

And the other thing he said - "media and fans don't realize how hard and fast the American Hockey League is, in my opinion very few kids coming out of junior or college hockey can step directly into an AHL lineup right away and make a difference. They wind up sitting a lot."

Playing the game fast - isn't that a significant part of the problem with Strome, in addition to his sh$tty skating.?

And Dach - no choice but to be patient with him and provide good coaching to improve the areas of his game that are weak. It takes time.

- RickJ


Helpful post, Rick.. I think checking up (slowing the game down waiting for options to develop) is an IQ thing. Kaner is a master at checking up at the 1/2 wall with his world class IQ/vision/hands but think of Dach skating himself into a cul de sac in the corner erasing most of his options.

The kid has the hands, feet and length to get it to the red zone it's getting it over the goal line that's the trouble. There are times to check up and times not to IMO. A sharp coach and tons of video work should help correct some of this as well as game repetition. ...........

NHL game speed is a tough place to learn and the kid went from jrs to NHL speed. No doubt, with hindsight of course, the AHL would have been perfect but remember due to the Indentured Servitude Clause the Hawks had two choices with Dach as a 19 yr old, the NHL or jrs. The AHL was not an option.

Just looked up Marco Rossi's numbers in the AHL this yr. The 01 has 11 points in 9 games. As bad as MN needs centermen, and as well as they are playing with a real chance to make noise late in the season, for now they're keeping him on the farm. Wonder for how long?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 15 @ 6:42 PM ET
The Vid has struck the Ottawa Senators. Apparently, their next three games will be postponed.

With it becoming more clear that the jab doesn't last very long, I wonder how much more of this....stuff.....we will see?

- mohel


I hope Ottawa gets their situation under control and number of positive cases decline league wide. I read where the league has until January 10, 2022 to opt out of the upcoming Olympics. If covid cases cause other teams to postpone their games, I wonder if the league will exercise that option to in order to use the 15 day Olympic break to schedule make up games.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Nov 15 @ 7:48 PM ET
Good ole #22! I met him once and shook his hand. It was like grasping a 12" cast iron frying pan.

- Rota's Rooter


Was that picture taken when Mulvey was 18 years old? It's funny how up until Gretzky, nobody in the NHL looked a day under 35.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 15 @ 8:01 PM ET
I hope Ottawa gets their situation under control and number of positive cases decline league wide. I read where the league has until January 10, 2022 to opt out of the upcoming Olympics. If covid cases cause other teams to postpone their games, I wonder if the league will exercise that option to in order to use the 15 day Olympic break to schedule make up games.
- boilermaker100


The effectiveness of the vaccine is decreasing, and, as Sage points out, the winter is upon us. I'd guess we will see more.

Of course, we're soon likely to hear that everything will be better if we "just do this one more thing".....
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 15 @ 8:09 PM ET
I guess the guy we should of drafted, Noah Dobson, i believe is a healthy scratch tonight
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 15 @ 8:31 PM ET
I guess the guy we should of drafted, Noah Dobson, i believe is a healthy scratch tonight
- BetweenTheDots


Boqvist scored for the Jackets
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 15 @ 8:49 PM ET
I hope Ottawa gets their situation under control and number of positive cases decline league wide. I read where the league has until January 10, 2022 to opt out of the upcoming Olympics. If covid cases cause other teams to postpone their games, I wonder if the league will exercise that option to in order to use the 15 day Olympic break to schedule make up games.
- boilermaker100


Seems like we would have heard more about the rosters for the various countries by now. Did they fill Stan's GM position? I know they were talking Guerin, but then some scandal about him made the press.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 15 @ 8:50 PM ET
Boqvist scored for the Jackets
- DarthKane


Nice, i personally liked the kid and his talent, and i think he's going to be a really good player once he gets stronger.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Nov 15 @ 10:09 PM ET
On Dach, A few years ago on the-rink's podcast they had Bill Placzek on there talking about him. He was described as a multi-tooled pass first big guy who can back check and play in his own zone but probably isn't going to blow your skirt up.

I don't think there's been anything to be disappointed about the player. He was never predicted to be a dominant force except by the bozo's who were comparing him to a Getzlaf type player.

He looked very good when he first came up, broke his wrist playing with children because the former GM was super smart, did not look great in the games he played last year (obviously) and is working to regain form after no having played a complete season since he was in the minors.

He doesn't look terribly out of place and he needs to figure out when playing with Kane that he probably shouldn't be the one holding onto the puck. Putting him the middle with Towes on one side and Kubalik on the other probably helps because then he can be in the set up role he is probably more comfortable with. Or just flipping him and Toews if you can't get over moving Toews to wing to accommodate his current level of play accomplishes the same thing.

But all in all, he's played fine up and down the ice, and has been the reliable defense first, pass first maybe hold the puck too long player he was described as. Seems a little ridiculous to be disappointed with someone who meets expectations.

- fattybeef

If it were up to you you'd put all the center's at wing and the dmen at center and the wingers at defense
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 15 @ 10:33 PM ET
Nice, i personally liked the kid and his talent, and i think he's going to be a really good player once he gets stronger.
- BetweenTheDots


I think his biggest issue is going to be staying on the ice. If he could get a full year in, I think he could start to approximate a guy like Leddy or maybe Spurgeon. I just don't see him being able to hold up unless he find a way to limit the contact he takes.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 16 @ 12:03 AM ET
Interesting

Hossa chose his Sens jersey for his HHOF picture and Wilson his Sharks...wonder if that would have been their choice 2 months ago?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 16 @ 12:29 AM ET
Interesting

Hossa chose his Sens jersey for his HHOF picture and Wilson his Sharks...wonder if that would have been their choice 2 months ago?

- pdx2ord


Did Wilson go in as a player or exec? The Hossa one raises an eyebrow, but I personally don't care at all. It's not like it diminishes a single thing he did for the team.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 16 @ 12:47 AM ET
Did Wilson go in as a player or exec? The Hossa one raises an eyebrow, but I personally don't care at all. It's not like it diminishes a single thing he did for the team.
- Chunk



Not sure on Wilson, but looks to be for his playing career.

https://twitter.com/NHL/s.../1460454670095290369?s=20

Just raised an eyebrow for me, personally, since my dad cannot say Clyde Drexler's name without scowling after Drexler choose his Houston uniform for the NBA Top 50 of all time honors.

Ottawa gave Hoss his start and he was there a long time...makes sense.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Nov 16 @ 1:29 AM ET
The effectiveness of the vaccine is decreasing, and, as Sage points out, the winter is upon us. I'd guess we will see more.

Of course, we're soon likely to hear that everything will be better if we "just do this one more thing".....

- mohel

And then 40% of population would refuse to do that one thing…again.

#youcanleadahorsetowater…
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 16 @ 8:02 AM ET
And then 40% of population would refuse to do that one thing…again.

#youcanleadahorsetowater…

- Ogilthorpe2


It's not "just that one thing" though.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Nov 16 @ 8:07 AM ET
Was that picture taken when Mulvey was 18 years old? It's funny how up until Gretzky, nobody in the NHL looked a day under 35.
- Dieselhead

I have no idea. That mound of hair and the stash are glorious though.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 16 @ 8:28 AM ET
Interesting

Hossa chose his Sens jersey for his HHOF picture and Wilson his Sharks...wonder if that would have been their choice 2 months ago?

- pdx2ord

This is very odd, yes he started his career with Ottawa, however he played seven years with Senators and eight with Hawks, including three cups. Something is rotten in Denmark.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 16 @ 8:29 AM ET
This is very odd, yes he started his career with Ottawa, however he played seven years with Senators and eight with Hawks, including three cups. Something is rotten in Denmark.
- Angotti
Did Bettman get involved? PE can probably chime in.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 16 @ 8:46 AM ET
Did Bettman get involved? PE can probably chime in.
- Angotti


No need for me to chime in.
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